Game is SO BAD dear God. Tried it despite the aesthetics, which aggravate me to no end. Spare me the whole sexuality vs. the West thing. When there are dicks swinging just like there are boobs jiggling then we can talk about sexuality being allowed and accepted. Until then, this isn't sexuality, this is objectification.

Anyway, how are games like this still allowed to exist? I'll grant that Whipper and Shadow animations are decent, but everyone else just uses guns of various sizes that shoot balls of energy of various colors. That's all you do, while you're killing 10 of something and turning it in just to get another quest asking you to do  the same. The game is offensive on a whole other level, that the developers of this trash think gamers are stupid and juvenile enough to overlook bad gameplay just by shoving cameltoe in our faces.

Oh look, yet another panda. We need more of those. >_>

Still going to give it a look. I miss the traditional turn-based game, but I've yet to see an online game do it correctly. Crossing my fingers this isn't another one of those automated games.

I don't have a problem calling it any MMO. Massive Multiplayer Online is all that term ever stood for, it's people who made it something else and even then that varies based on opinion. 

But yes, it's HEAVILY instances. And spare me the 'open' maps people, I played into the 30s. Those maps are not 'open', they are paths areas with a sky. Adding a sky to a map doesn't make it open when you have invisible walls, trees, houses, etc., creating specific paths you move through and portals to a new zone, which btw is usually just to another NPC that's going to send you into another instance. Personally, I like instancing, so this isn't something that's a killer for me, but don't try to portray the game as something it isn't. You're going to give people the wrong idea and in the end, only do harm to a game you like. 

Originally posted by Razeekster
Hopefully it's news that they are rescraping the whole thing to create  a real Marvel MMORPG instead of whatever the heck this is.

I'm sure this is a shock to the majority here at MMORPG.com living inside their self-imposed bubbles, but the game is actually wildly popular on its own. There are people EVERYWHERE and they have nothing but good to say about it. Considering how many people bought the $200 package (one of which wasn't me, I really like the game but that's too much to spend on a game these days) I'd say it's doing just fine as is. 

Hopefully this is an Open Beta announcement. It seemed in the last playtest that they had the game relatively wrapped up production-wise, they've even retexutured the characters for more detailed models and faces. The only thing that was still being worked out was the server issues, trying to make it so the masses of people playing at once could do so without all the lag. If that's all that's left, an Open Beta is just what the doc' ordered. I'm looking forward to being able to play without fear my progress will get wiped.

They spent so much time producing and reproducing this game only to end up with a generic cliche of a style that's dying or dead to most gamers. I can't imagine why investors are starting to shy away from MMOs, with companies like these just throwing cash down the drain.

Only thing that's more of a waste of time to make this game is the time it would take to play it.

Originally posted by Sho0terMcgavin
If you enjoy this game, you will enjoy Neverwinter.  Imo, Neverwinter is better  Try it out!

Dare to dream, dude.

Just got back into Vindictus recently, I missed it. Definitely satisfying that action itch I had. Where a comparison to Neverwinter came from, I don't know. They have absolutely nothing in common.

I on the other hand was incredibly disappointed in Neverwinter, and don't see it growing beyond a niche audience. For all intents and purposes, it's a stripped down DDO. The graphics are scattered in quality, the astral diamond necessities are out of control, non-instanced questing is KXY, the skill bar and system is extremely restrictive and there is ZERO class versatility.

Unlike a lot of people here who played for a couple of hours or just for a day, I played the whole weekend. I made it over level 30, into the Paragon Levels on my Cleric, to get a good feel for the game before making any kind of judgement. It's repetitive, and the immediate response of, "Oh hey, this is fun!" will begin to dim by 20 and by 30 it'll be gone entirely. Paragon levels don't much to change the gameplay, they decide your next 3 skills over the following 30 levels and that's pretty much it.

The class system is inferior to nearly every other Dungeons and Dragons game, the skill trees and class choices are inferior to Rift, the combat is inferior to GW2, the quests are inferior to TSW, the graphics ugh...take your pick. Even CO/STO are more attractive and they're by the same company, and older. I was one of those people that stood up for Cryptic where CO was concerned, but I think they missed the mark by miles with Neverwinter.

This is entirely different than AoC, the two can't be compared. Conan aimed for realism in its nudity, evidenced by the lack of armor that reflects this kind of nudity (at least in the original game, haven't kept up with the expacs). It was only gratuitous at first because people playing the game made it so, but eventually they got over it and threw on some rather bland, but realistic, means of protecting themselves in battle. Mortal Online is the same. I like this kind of nudity in games, I like realism. I installed nude mods (for both genders) in Skyrim because when I take everything my victim owns, I want them literally left with nothing. Granted it comes with an unfortunate courier side affect, but that's a different discussion.

Scarlet Blade is gratuitous for the sake of it. Generally, I don't have a problem with this either. I don't care for it, but it's not something I'd rage on. What irks me is when its used as a gimmick to cover up terrible and bland gameplay. It's offensive that the devs actually think all they need to make this game interesting are pixelated breasts and f**k-me boots. The game has been out for a while, check out the videos or even play the original version yourself. It's bottom of the barrel amounts of drull. That Aeria was even able to get their hands on this is testament to its quality, they would have been crushed beneath the heels of bigger publishers had this game been worth fighting over.

It doesn't surprise me, FF14 is fighting an uphill battle and this goes hand-in-hand with what I've said about it relauching as a new game entirely rather than with the stigma of it's first iteration. 

That they ever tried to sell the original game hurt them, it's practically offensive that anyone has to pay for something so obviously broken and unfinished. The only thing about it that wasn't incredibly amateur and beneath SQE were the graphics, and then only partially considering how much of the terrain was cloned. People are burned and many will never go back. Plus, they're keeping the sub model, something people are less and less willing to pay for thanks to the plethora of f2p/b2p options. Plus, FF MMOs were always a niche appeal in the first place. PLUS, the few people that did support FF14 are now leaving because they view the new iteration as a WoW clone.

This game can't and won't win. I actually feel no animosity anymore, at this point I just feel bad for them. They're clearly making an effort to try and fix past mistakes, but I doubt gamers will forgive them, we all tend to behave like women scorned with it comes to our video games. It's going to be a lot of money, time, talent and potential wasted. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.

Originally posted by Lienhart

I've clocked an absurdly high amount of hours into MMOs from WoW to Final Fantasy XI. After recently switching to a much more expensive hobby (supersport track days), I'm feeling the need to slap my face for wasting so much time on a hobby that amounts to having nothing to show for in the real world.

Anyone else ever feel the same way?

I doubt you'll see fame and lasting glory in your new hobby. Whether you're spending your time gaming or...whatever it is you're doing now, you'd have no more to show for one or the other. The difference is you're now having more fun with one hobby than the other, and so you think the time you spent in the past was a waste. If you weren't having fun, it was a waste. If you were, then it served it's purpose, just like your current hobby is doing for you now.

Damn, game's off the radar for me, now. I can't do this gameplay anymore, it's almost to tedious to even be called a game. That video showed a world that looked really interesting and fun to explore but combat that can be found in 90% of the games out there, none of which I'm playing and for good reason. Free form targetting won't be enough to change that.

In every one of those fights in the combat video, the Warrior rushes in as the tank and everyone just stands back spamming attacks/heals from out of aggro range. Honestly, I'd rather have an MMO with no combat and no gear, than an MMO with dated versions of either.