v31 always was a tool.

Originally posted by Renko

The way so many people came here from the JGE forum to jump up and down on the OP really just gives credence to what he wrote about them.

Not really.

Originally posted by Ambrosius

This is so sad, it's funny.

The Jumpgate community is passionate, intelligent and funny .  Sometimes it can be tough, too, as it has little tolerance for complete fools.

In any case, it's best for people to decide for themselves instead of following self-proclaimed experts.

Well said Ambro.

Guys the reason Lobotomist (and one or two others like him) get flamed isn't because of the ideas they propose but because of how they present their ideas and themselves. They come off as though they are the greatest people in the MMO community and that if anyone disagrees with them they should die horribly.

If he had come and proposed his ideas with a little more consideration and politeness to the community then I seriously doubt this thread would exist. Even when we disagree with an idea we don't automatically start trashing the person who came out with it. We say why we don't like it and move on.

Lobo, it was a good attempt to get some last minute revenge on a community that rejected you because of your poor attitude, but it was also totally unnecessary and doesn't really help you out in anyway. The Jumpgate community is one of the finest on the internet, regardless of what you believe. Next time you want to join a new community be a little bit more respectful and you wont get ripped apart.

Yes. Insulting an entire community on a forum other than that communities forum and then discrediting members of said community because they have a low post count, who have come to present their side of the argument to people who may be deciding whether or not to give a game a chance, is silly.

Lobotomist, you come to the Jumpgate Evolution forums and post a bunch of threads all on the same idea which a large portion of the community disagreed with. You then proceed to argue pointlessly, flame, and just be a prick in general. You have an attitude when you post that says, "I'm better than everyone else here, do what I say," you don't seem to understand that Jumpgate Evolution isn't meant to copy every other game out there. So what if other games have avatars? I'm going to have to agree with Liet, avatars (like the ones in Eve) look really bad and kill immersion rather than improve it.

Now you come to the MMORPG forums and start making things up about a community you know nothing about and never once tried to get along with. If someone new joins the community and is polite, it doesn't matter if we disagree with their ideas we will welcome them in kind. If someone new joins the community and is a complete prick, has little knowledge of the previous game and it's community, but tries to speak as if they do (ie. you) the community will not react well and you'll get flamed for it. And if you think this is unique to the Jumpgate community than you clearly have only been on the internet for a month. This happens everywhere on the internet, especially on game forums. Get used to it.

You weren't flamed because of your ideas, you were flamed because you have a poor attitude. Maybe if you tried adjusting it a little you would be better received. As for calling JGC a failure, I'd like to see you and two other guys write a game in their basement, get it published and have it run for eight years and remain profitable. Scorch (Netdevil CEO) has said that to this day Jumpgate Classic is profitable in a recent interview. I'd hardly call a profitable game a failure. It may not be a massive success but that doesn't mean it failed miserably either. Even now, despite relatively low online numbers I can login at night, find a fight, have fun for a few hours and log off. It may not have 9 million subscribers like World of Warcraft, but it is a long way off of being a failure.

Please stop making up garbage and BS about a community you know nothing about. For anyone who is reading his posts: ignore them. He doesn't know what he is talking about.