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A game like Oblivion is much to simple to be a serious MMO.. No crafting system , not so great combat ..ect. You couldnt just take Oblivion or Gothic and make it an MMO. It would require a major rework in just about all areas.

A game in the Elder Scrolls universe.. Sure.

I really dont see what people are complaining about.. D3 just offers a color palette that has more than just gray , dark gray , black and red. It isnt like the game is Hello Kitty Online now.. D3 just offers more detail , smoother textures and a large variety of colors ( which is realistic ) over the previous games.

This also allows them to create a much larger variety when it comes to gear art and gear has always been ' it ' when it came to the series.

Originally posted by merieke82
Originally posted by Mopar63

The real threat to discrete graphics right now looks to be services like Onlive. You can use ANY computer to play your game. That means a 400$ dell desk top or a $300 compaq laptop, possibly even a netbook could all run the same games.




Those services will hold more value for gamers with very low budgets. Gamers with an income who like to maintain a fast PC, download mods, and retain control over their system will not use those services.


It will hopefully never replace the demand for high end consumer video cards, but agree that it will affect the market share to some degree.



There will be to much latency to play twitch based games too.. And from the looks of it the pricing is going to be terrible.. 15$ a month for pretty much nothing + game fees.

As for this " new " render method.. It may be useful on extending clip ranges and view distances without using much power or losing tons of detail but that may be about it. I also saw some chugging when they were flying through some of those demo scenes

Oh an /laugh for using a WoW tree as to why polygons are bad.

DRM is a waste of money..

For whatever reason devs and publishers and whoever else is stuck on the idea that if their game doesnt have DRM that no one will buy it.. But that isnt true as games like Oblivion and SoTSE proved ( among others ).

And here I thought the original game was bad/boring.. This expansion is the biggest ripoff I have seen in a long time.

Would have been better off if it had coop.. I bought and played the game for a couple weeks when it launched but havent touched it since ( not even on my PC now ).

Not a bit interested in the MMO either.

Originally posted by Zyonne
Originally posted by SlyLoK

You are forgetting one important fact.. The 5000 " players " will not be on all at once.. If they plan to only sell 5000 copies then you can expect to have less than 1000 players on at a given time ( probably not even that ).. Thats about the size of a closed beta test phase ( which fits my opinion of this " limited launch " ).

Your WoW example doesnt fly either considering there were probably 15000 unqiue players on a server with 2500 - 3000 on at the same time.

I didn't forget that. The average Sandbox player plays much more than the average WoW player, and populations are more active right after a launch. I don't think my estimate of 1500 players at peak hours was too high. We'll see, though. You can't compare the gameplay of the two games. It was just to give an idea of the size of the world compared to the number of players. Even with 500-1000 players online, I doubt it will seem empty.

Anyway, 5000 accounts means that theoretically there can be 1500 towns. (3 characters per account, 10 characters in a tribe to build a town). I think they'll need the space even if they split up into just 100-200 tribes.


You have zero proof of what you just spewed.. ZERO.

At the start I am sure 500-1000 players will make the game seem full because everyone will be in the same areas.. Spread that over a few months ( like the suggested ) and the game would be a ghost town.

Either way you look at it they are covering for something and it aint hype or making sure they arent flooded with players.

Originally posted by DracheSC

[Mod Edit]

Anybody ever heard of Darkfall? It's a total sandbox, and guess what? It's pretty darned good, too. Kicks the crap out of MO.


DF isnt a sandbox.. Its a arena based pvp game where the arena is a large empty world. DF is only a sandbox to those that have no clue on what a sandbox game truly offers.

MO is going to have the same problem.

Originally posted by Ravanos
Originally posted by SlyLoK

Most people that want a harsh death penalty have never experienced such.



no most just want the easy button, the dumbed down gameplay of WoW with a different skin. where death is just a port home for a charge (repairing your gear). how many times have you heard in a dungeon "oh im just going to suicide out" ... think you heard that in a EQ1?

how many times has a ranger or huntard decided the tank wasn't pulling fast enough and decided to agro another mob. think that happened in EQ1 or a game with harsh DP? ever had a group say "alright guys watch your AOEs" and someone in the group who is trying to show off their uber damage ... does it anyway? think that happened in a game with harsh DP?


no ... because you had to play smart, something gamers now a days aren't use too ... "what you mean i can't just faceroll and succeed?!? omg WTF!"

and yes it does make the game harder and it makes people better. its funny how many times this happens to me. im in a group and one person doesn't know how to play at all ... the majority of the time their first MMO is WoW. where as if you're in a group and someone who knows his class and knows their role and executes their role their first MMO is EQ1 or some other game with a harsh DP.


I guess there isnt a single person that can read and comprehend on these boards.

EQ1 had a sissy death penalty compared to the games I played long ago. Corpse retrieval where all of your items remained on your corpse was not hard.. Having to go back and kill the same mobs that killed you just to get your equipment off of them is another story.

Like I said.. People that want a harsh penalty have never experience a harsh death penalty.

You are forgetting one important fact.. The 5000 " players " will not be on all at once.. If they plan to only sell 5000 copies then you can expect to have less than 1000 players on at a given time ( probably not even that ).. Thats about the size of a closed beta test phase ( which fits my opinion of this " limited launch " ).

Your WoW example doesnt fly either considering there were probably 15000 unqiue players on a server with 2500 - 3000 on at the same time.

Most people that want a harsh death penalty have never experienced such.. I used to play games where after dying you would lose stat points , skill levels , be looted by whatever killed you and if you were ate by a lair then you would be sent to the Underworld and your loot would drop wherever you died.

So you had to use a stat potion to regain stats , use your skills to regain your skill levels , return to where you died hoping that you wont have to clear an entire dungeon level to find your gear and to get out of the underworld you would have to do quests for your organs.



Originally posted by rlmccoy1987
Originally posted by Rockgod99

FE is a different type of mmo. Its mission based and actually has an endgame. Its more of a Hybrid than a true sandbox game.

Obviously a mission based skill capped game is going to need more dev created content than your FFA pvp focused sandbox.


Agree, they are different.


Very different.. FE has content the others do not.

Originally posted by rlmccoy1987
Originally posted by SlyLoK
Originally posted by alucard3000
Originally posted by patrikd23

Simple math as I see it. Darkfall vs Mortal online. Darkfall is American and Mortal Online is Swedish. is America and not a swedish website.

Which would probably explain the negativity. Since probably favours Darkfall, and most of the thread makers and posters too. Wouldnt be surpriced if got money from Aventurine that made Darkfall also.


funny cuz AV is not american get over it


No one knows where they are from! They hop countries every other week to escape the bill collectors! :)

Seriously though.. MO went from a " maybe " purchase down the line to " This company needs to die " after seeing this... Turbine , SV , AV and Funcom are on that list too.


Who said that? 

If they fail because they did something wrong, it is their fault because that is how capitalism works.  Sick of hearing people blame the customers on the failures of Starvault.


You obviously misunderstood what I said.

Originally posted by alucard3000
Originally posted by patrikd23

Simple math as I see it. Darkfall vs Mortal online. Darkfall is American and Mortal Online is Swedish. is America and not a swedish website.

Which would probably explain the negativity. Since probably favours Darkfall, and most of the thread makers and posters too. Wouldnt be surpriced if got money from Aventurine that made Darkfall also.


funny cuz AV is not american get over it


No one knows where they are from! They hop countries every other week to escape the bill collectors! :)

Seriously though.. MO went from a " maybe " purchase down the line to " This company needs to die " after seeing this... Turbine , SV , AV and Funcom are on that list too.

Originally posted by UnsungToo

Depends on the rest of the game


Lets assume the game is of decent quality.. Not a AAA type but not a stinker either.

It would pretty much work like a normal MMO.. You quest , you hunt , you craft and you find gear..ect.

Could one survive just by selling cosmetic items?

Build up the game with the idea of supporting a vast outfit and general fluff system.

There would be no pay to win items but different shirts , shoes , hates , pants , all sorts of outfits..

Cosmetic weapon and armor that would reskin them both.

Even have things like cute little pets and things like levitation and shapeshift potions ( doesnt effect gameplay ).

Basically just a huge fluff system.

Could a F2P survive with this kind of cash shop? Would you play a game like this? Would you buy outfits and such from the shop?

Looks like they are hoping people will blindly preorder the game with no proof of the games actual existence. Using the " We will limit how many people play " is just a tactic to drive up preorders as high as possible.

Dont like it. You either release or you dont. It honestly feels like the " limited players " is just another way of having an extended beta period after the release of the game.

Originally posted by Slapshot1188
Originally posted by SlyLoK
Originally posted by rlmccoy1987
Originally posted by Aramanu2


(yes i brought the game but will probably save my free month for 2011.)


You can't save your free month... it starts when the game is released just like every other MMO....


It doesnt work that way.. On every MMO I have played the free month doesnt start until you activate your account and enter payment information. So you could buy a game and not activate it for 6 months but still have the free month when you do.

Pretty sure a long time ago.. when they were releasing in Q4... they said that your 30 free days started automatically and there was no option for postponing it to a later date.   Something may have changed in the 3-4 months since then, but I haven't read anything different.



Well they are a bunch of amateurs so I wouldbt be surprised if they had no clue how to work a normal system. However this may also only happen with people who already bought the game as someone else mentioned. That is still pretty stupid when all that is needed is an account wipe to reset everything.

Hellgate wasnt \ is not an MMO.. It was a single player game with an online component where they tried to cheat people out of a monthly fee. They wanted that monthly fee so bad that they butchered the game in order to have an excuse to do it.. Releasing an offline and online patch? Seriously? Bunch of morons.

As for what MMO.. AC2. I never got to play it but it looked interesting and I never puked or laughed when I looked at it unlike AC1.

Pure Greed is about all that can be said.

If the Movie , Music and Gaming industry had their way we could only watch a movie once , listen to each track on a CD once and play through a game only once before having to purchase it again.

As for devs not getting paid enough.. I beg to differ. They make more than enough and just because the industry brings in shiny coin doesnt mean they need to be paid more.

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