Dont know why people would vote for Unreal.. its a pathetic engine that needs to die.

Of those 4 I would pick Frostbite 2 because of the potential for destructible invironments and ofcourse it looks good. Though we dont know how well it would handle an MMO world but it would still be interesting to see.

Of the other that are out there.. I really want to play a fully fleshed out MMO that has used the Hero Engine and after that a Crytech MMO like ArcheAge.

Edit : I cant believe I actually overlooked that the CryEngine was on the poll LOL. Thats what happens when you work all day with no sleep kids.

I wish this game would release in NA this year..

I think and hope this game will release next year in NA / EU.. It just feels like they a treating us like a target audience.

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

Originally posted by osc8r

Disagree. The market is already saturated with PVE and PVP-lite MMO's... the dev's shouldn't be waisting their time and resources trying to cater to a crowd which is already well catered for, and which the game was never designed for.

And for a thread that's supposedly a 'NON carebear vs PK debate', you sure spent a lot of time debating it.

<3 UO, AC1, EVE.

Yeah, I couldn't really agree more with this. If you don't like open world PvP, please don't fuck up another game for those of us who do. You've got plenty of safe worlds to mill around in other MMO's.

Hence multiple ruleset servers.

You play with those that also want to gank to their hearts content ( a little more difficult when easy kills are fewa nd far between ).

And the rest of us ( vast majority ) will play for adventure and the occasional PvP excersion.

Enjoy your 2 servers.

Originally posted by Metentso

Originally posted by Bladestrom

Originally posted by Metentso

Eve has a few 100% sandbox features. Does that make it a sandbox MMO? that's up to anyones opinions. For me it's not a sandbox game.

 As i said, being a sandbox has nothing to do with features.  It is about community and economy.  Both are Eves biggest strengths.  Pointing to a community and saying 'thats not a community' does not make it so :)

 

Darkfall players says sandbox is full PVP and full loot. Eve players say sandbox is community, economy, politics.

They are like the blind people touching parts of an elephant. Yes those are sandbox features, or caracteristics if you prefer, but a whole sandbox is much more. I won't go into what a sandobx is because that's a very open concept and will lead to endless discussions.

Someone finally gets it.

A game having quests doesnt automatically make it a " themepark " game.

A game having Open PvP and Full Loot doesnt automatically make it a " Sandbox " game.

A game having base classes doesnt automatically make the game a " Themepark " game.

A game having a classless system doesnt automatically make the game a " Sandbox " game.

Ect. Ect. Ect.

I thought Darkfall was " feature complete " years ago? Why do they need to do a 2.0!?!?!?

Originally posted by tank017

Not bad..

I love that floating water bubble CC spell lol.I like the look of the spell casting overall in Archeage.

 

Also,were they going for the Avatar look and feel with that race?

 

me thinks so

Did Avater go for the Saga of Ryzom ( race ) look and feel with their race?

me thinks so

:)

I have always used point and click for targeting..

Good videos.

I am really liking the animations and particle effects.. Even though many games have the traditional style combat what separates them is the quality of animation , particle effects and fluidity of combat.

Just look at the animations during casting and see how the ones being used had different animations. Seeing the character mirror the grasping animation of the root spell was nice to see.

TOR will probably be a good game and I may just get it after not playing an MMO for awhile.. But I really dont like the tactic Bioware is using to create false demand of their product.

I doubt if they tracked anything.

Originally posted by Yalexy

 

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Originally posted by SlyLoK

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Originally posted by Yalexy
Economy doesn't work without stuff being destroyed. Have fun with your inflationary non-functional economy on the PvE-servers.

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PvP doesnt solve that either you know.
Equipment degradation does but most games since DAoC allow you to repair items an infinite number of times and is mostly use a way to remove currency from the game.
Move along.

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DAoC was good yes, I said this a few posts before allready. EvE is a more comparable game to ArcheAge tho and it's economy is the best you'll ever find in a MMO.... and it's PvP-based for a good reason.

Degradation alone isn't anywhere enough to keep the economy going. Or do you really expect stuff to degrade as fast as stuff can be built? :lol:

Equipment doesnt need to degrade fast in an MMO. After a time it just needs to take gear out of the game world.

PvP doesnt solve anything you are talking about. PvP keeps gear in the game world just as long as a PvE game with the same system. With PvP the PKers either keep items for backup or sell them..either way those items stay in the game world.

Have you ever played EvE? Most of the game takes place inside of " safe / high security " space.

AA is more than likely going to offer more than 1 server ruleset. Its time to accept it and move on.

Originally posted by Yalexy

Economy doesn't work without stuff being destroyed. Have fun with your inflationary non-functional economy on the PvE-servers.

PvP doesnt solve that either you know.

Equipment degradation does but most games since DAoC allow you to repair items an infinite number of times and is mostly use a way to remove currency from the game.

Move along.

I use Raptr.

Thanks but I will stick with Raptr.

Originally posted by Axehilt

Originally posted by MMO.Maverick

I'd compare it rather with McDonald's. Of course hamburgers and fries existed before McDonald's, but it's the overall concept of smooth delivery and service that made McDonald's as widespread and popular as it became. Sure, 3 Michelin star restaurants might raise their eyebrows towards McDonald's, but that doesn't mean that the whole philosophy and delivery concept isn't well thought out and brilliant in its own right.

Well the McD's argument always rings false for me, since it insinuates low quality.

It's more like some freak combination of:

• high quality gourmet $30 steak burger, with the same service and atmosphere
• ...with the convenience of McDonalds
• ...and at the same price ($5) as every other burger place.

Convenience and accessibility obviously don't appeal as much to players who've played a lot of MMORPGs -- and yet even though I see right through those mechanics to the underlying gameplay, WOW still beats out all the other MMORPGs I've tried.

The only reason I don't still play WOW is there's only so many $30 steak burgers you can have before you become tired of them.

Someone who gets it!

I applaud you.

I started before those games and WoW is my favorite MMO. ( I am no longer playing though )

However the games trying to copy WoWs success is getting annoying. To me WoW was one of the first ( if not the first ) to use quest based progression instead of killing mobs endlessly and just about every MMO released since has used quest based progression. And every game doing the same thing as the previous just gets old.

Hey Look! That couldnt possibly be a marketing post.. could it? Hmmm.

Yea.

I know current DF players dont want to hear it but if AV ever released a PvE Server with PvP areas ( something like Emain from DAoC but with player castles and seiges ) the game would grow considerably. I used to think DF had ~20k subs but from these numbers there probably arent even 10k subs and that will barely pay the bills + what workers they have with little left over to put on improving the games tech / systems.

Dragons should always be a part of a fantasy MMO.

I entered this thread thinking there was some custom UI for EQ I didnt know about.