Originally posted by joshe

 

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Originally posted by phrank
BTW he is a 20 something with no business experience so that part was accurate... and that is my biggest concern with SV.
What would you choose: play a game made by businessmen or by a long time gamers ?

 

Originally posted by thinktank001
I don't think anyone really cares what a dev thinks atm. Although there seems to be more to this post than just a current " state of the game ". ( looks more like a reply ) However, I definitely don't like how he simply downplays another person's opinion on looting mechanics. Despite the appeal that manual looting has it is definitely one of those mechanics that needs to be scrutinized very carefully before implementing.
He also doesn't seem to understand that if players are reporting errors that are indeed not errors that means there is a severe lack of communication between the player base and devs. If it is not an error tell them it is not an error. Simple problem and simple solution. Hopefully things can change for the better in upcoming months.

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Taking into consideration all top lvl games during their development time, there was NO COMMUNICATION between devs and communities at all.
SV communicates with MO fans all the time, and they do it by themselve. Not by a dedicated PR person.
Do you got the difference now ?

Regarding looting mechanics, this aint a fkin WoW/aion/MUo/AoC, or any other dumbed down and simplified to death 99% automated game.
Every badly thought or implemented mechanic is going to have a huge, negative impact on other game aspects.

Some ppl are just unable to think beyond the standards.
But why are they only whining that another game isn't another dumbed down EQ clone ?

fyi: I'm astonished seeing what games are/were you playing, and for which ones you are waiting. Every one negates another one.

So someone who played and enjoyed UO and wouldnt mind seeing a newer game like it couldnt possible like a game like WoW or EQ2 right? Where do you goons come from?

Lets put this as simple as possible because thats the way it needs to be around here it seems. If MO releases in a bad state then its going to fail. Its that simple. It doesnt matter if the game is different.. This isnt 99 or early 2000s when we would play any crappy MMO just because..

I am leaning toward fail at the moment. And the more I read fanboy comments the closer I get to wishing and wanting for the game to fail. Some of you guys already make people put up red flags when it comes to the quality of the potential community the game will have. Insults left and right like everyone who disagrees with you is somehow a lesser being.

As far as the looting goes.. If its like UO and can be smoothly and quickly then whatever. If its a mess like DF then its dumb and shouldnt be used.

There will be no box in the US until they get a " publisher ".

Outside of the wow factor of walking around middle earth the game just doesnt offer much. It only takes a week for that to wear off and then soon after you realize how boring the game is.

Before MoM expansion was release the game wasnt doing to well ( estimated to have less than 150k players ) but now its probably back around 200k or more.

I would like to see a SP game on the same scope as an MMO..

Has WoTLK been released in China yet? Wouldnt be unexpected for the numbers to increase again when it does.

I guess this makes MO more " hardcore "? lol

I played UO and EQ for a few years each and AC for only a month.

I like instances but I also would like to see more open dungeons..

I dont think any MMO has had AI on par with some single player games.. In MMOs the " difficulty " of mobs is determined by how much HP , damage it does and if it has any abilities to be used and not its intelligence. Its not going to change.

As long as the majority of the game world is persistent I will be fine with it.. From the looks of it the game will offer tons of small group content which is what the MMO genre is sorely missing IMO.

PvP has nothing to do with a game being sandbox..

Playing Darkfall is like playing Call of Duty on a public server.

People need to stop pretending that MMOs pre WoW were something special.. They were new and different from other genres.. Thats it.

UO was a Gankfest / Grindfest.

EQ was a Grindfest.

DAoC was a Grindfest.

This why WoW is so popular.. Blizzard lessened the grind to where people can progress and have fun along the way. Not that old and tired camp X area for 3 levels then move to Z area for another 4 all the while killing the same area over and over again for weeks at a time.

The only people who seem to care about the old games are the ones still stuck with the elitist attitude even as adults. Then you have others who insist on letting nostalgia dilute there thinking. Nothing is ever what you remember.

Oh and please stop with the whole " community " bit.. Its hilarious. Quit pretending already. UO and EQ were full of idiots too you know. You had people demanding 10p for a teleport after the fact or others who would send you some pretty bad /tells if you happened to be afk while they asked for a SoW.. Morons are in every game but the community is what you make of it and more often than not you attract people that are like you...

Originally posted by Trueth

Yeah I agree. Then later I thought Mount and Blade Online would be cool. 

Heh.. Unless Taleworlds adds character development into their online version its gonna tank. The single player version is boring enough even with it.. Running around fighting people in a lame arena setting over nothing is retarded.

Originally posted by googajoob7

Originally posted by metalhead980

The real question is why do all the other fans of other games need wow to be "killed" by other games sub wise?

If you like a game, go play it and stop wishing for the downfall of other games people enjoy.

 

It depends on the game . In lord of the Rings i ve found no one that needs wow to be killed , if anything they seam to be glad wow is about because it attracts the younger players .  I dont wish for the down fall of warcraft but its not realistic to expect it to continue forever in its current state .  If anything i hope WOW is about for years to come . I ll proberbly return to again as i have done in the past . 

I think another strong game that would challenge wows manopoly would nt be a bad thing . Although i have tried most of the games released since wow i can see why they have remained niche games . The mmo market needs some healthy competition and WoW itself could do with a game hard on its heals . SImply because it would put pressure on both games to sharpen up thier act . Of course thier will be no WOW killer thats been clear for years .  

Are you sure you played LoTRO? I see more talking about WoW there than I do in any other game ( EQ2 , Vanguard , Even WoW ).. Its like this " Durherehruhur WOws fer kidz herherhurher " " WoW sux derhereherhur ".. Same ol same ol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFGSC0zOYw - Contains fly overs of land areas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UypIMXNO17Y - Combat... Looks like Vegeta and someone else. Could be one of those time machine based quests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEl5bDiaZ60 - Shows use of the Scouter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs3T-qR6k2Y - Short gameplay clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN16asn2sKg - A quest with Grandpa Gohan .. Retrieve baby Goku.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUSTZ6JXa6Y - Using the Dragonballs.. A wish? Hmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKJ-kHh_Noo - More combat.

Game looks better than what you would expect.. I am looking forward to trying it.

Is it me or has this topic been posted before? I remember the comment ( the one like this ) a couple replies up.

Mine wasnt as early as most others here...

Got it from Fingerhut in 98/99 - 188MHZ P1 - 20G HDD - 32MB RAM - 1MB Onboard Video.. :)

I do enjoy WoWs PvP more than any other game I have played.. I think its the pace and the overall flow of combat that does it for me.. The rewards are just part of the journey.

Originally posted by Mardy

Originally posted by neonwire

I reckon all the talented members of staff that originally worked on DAoC have now left the company. Hopefully though another more talented games company might take inspiration from DAoC and make a game that could pass for its sequel.

 

Those that left EA Mythic includes Mark Jacobs.  I can only hope Mark will get a new company together with their previous talents, and buy back the rights to DAOC's IP so they can make a sequel to it.  They'll have to accept a smaller company, smaller game.  But with how large companies & large game like WAR tanking, I don't see how smaller could be bad.

MJ was the reason WAR tanked. He didnt have Matt Firor at his side to fix things this time.

As far as DAoC2... Not with Mythic at the helm. Crappy PvE with overpowerd RAs and no class balance.. No thanks.