This has to be the most positive thread I've ever seen on mmorpg.com. Amazing!

Y'know you could always play Age of Conan =P

Avoid EVE-Online. I like the game and the universe, but the learning curve is 30 minutes at least. There's so many tools and aspects to the game that its not fast to learn. Everyone else has made decent suggestions.

Aion is not released yet. Next closed beta is on the 14th. Yes, you have to wait. Waiting sucks. No, there's nothing you can do about it.

Originally posted by Pyrostasis

Originally posted by marcust

Well I recently paid the $50 and bought a US account, and closed my EU subscription.

Being aussie my ping reduced from about 440 to 210.

While 210 is still outside your acceptable range, it plays fine.

You realise that $50 includes a month of playtime right, so its effectively $35.

So what your telling me is your an old UO player, who likes this game but wont fork out a measley $35 to this small development house to play this game because of some moral indignation. You sir are a tool.

I'm more than happy to help finance future development of the best MMO since UO.

So what if they are better developers than business people, I have to admit being the same, life goes on.

Please go take your moral indignation somewhere else and go have a good cry.

I'll just go have fun ingame.

Have a nice life, a good day, or whatever it is you passive aggressive yanks say.

 

 

Wow...

Thats some hate there bro. The main issue is I have to buy accounts for my family. My father, brother, and myself. that measly 35 as you say spikes up to 105.00 as opposed to 45. Thats a 50% savings.

Lets talk about my 20 many guild, thats 700 instead of 300. So yeah... Im a bit disappointed. I do enjoy UO, and DF... looks good. However, not good enough for me to buy the game twice. For you it was, and Im glad you did. However, when a small dev company comes out and makes a product, and I take a risk on them, and they promise me that they will take care of me, then dont, and demand I repurchase the game... its only natural for me not to want to give them more money.

If you personally dont have an issue with it, thats fine. However, when someone tells me one thing, then does another, it tends to ruffle my feathers a bit. You are a much more forgiving man than I.

Pyrostasis. Why the hell are you fighting for a decent game that's backed by a manipulative-hack of a company? Are you THAT masochistic and desperate for a UO-style game? Seriously, stop it. You've been aware of their corrupt business practices since earlier, why care enough that you allow yourself the possibility of being suckered in? Please man, have more integrity and stop supporting this company. The game is decent, fine... but the company is a load of shazbot. Stop supporting them by caring and paying them! And y'know what, spread the word while you're at it--- Darkfall is great, Aventurine sucks!

Having been on PvP servers and being tired of it, I've grown adjusted to the masochism of death. So Sorcerer I go. My secondary will be a Templar. I need to compensate for my masochism by being a bit on the defensive side in the latter.

I agree with Wizardry. The FF-Online (whether its XI or XIV) games do not need "jumping". The only time I've seen jumping as any sort of necessity is to scale obstacles in order to hide or break Line-Of-Sight, which is often for PvP moreso than PvE. And the FF-Online games are very much PvE than anything. Plus, jumping is a luxury that a number of games don't care for if it doesn't contribute to their vision. I doubt anyone has complained in FF-Online so far that they need jumping as a necessity.

Originally posted by JayFiveAlive

Originally posted by argos5

First off. The Collector's Edition isn't an actual box... its Digital. There is no special anything inside the box aside from digital items and early access and closed beta entry. Second, where did you preorder? Different distributors have different rules. GameStop has horrible pre-order code policies and employees have or have not distributed the proper material if you pre-order with them. We'll be able to help you better once we know where you pre-ordered.

 

There is Limited Collectors Edition and it is boxed. It comes with DVD of the game, manuals, soundtrack CD, some artwork, a 6.5" action figure, etc. which was available at Gamestop for awhile, but its no longer available there. I am not sure if the LCE is around anymore, but you could check Amazon, Best Buy, etc.

 

 

Ah, you mean this: http://news.mmosite.com/content/2009-05-31/20090531191725108.shtml

I stand corrected. But to the OP, there's no more of these available. But if you managed to secure one, congrats. You do need to receive the special registration code from these stores... if they don't know wtf you're talking about, you're getting ripped off.

First off. The Collector's Edition isn't an actual box... its Digital. There is no special anything inside the box aside from digital items and early access and closed beta entry. Second, where did you preorder? Different distributors have different rules. GameStop has horrible pre-order code policies and employees have or have not distributed the proper material if you pre-order with them. We'll be able to help you better once we know where you pre-ordered.

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by argos5

Originally posted by grndzro

Originally posted by Sigilaea

Originally posted by argos5

19 hours to go from 44 to 45... seems normal, I remember classic WoW being like that early on to some degree and EQ as well. But let's talk about the grand-daddy of all leveling times... how long does it take to gain a level in FFXI towards the end game? Since 44-45 is like 54-55 in WoW/EQ and FFXI is like what--- 70s ish towards level max?

 

Is FFXI a bigger grind than Lineage 2?

 

Without a doubt. Making a level in FFXI was a joyus event past 20 or so.

 

Yeah... Lineage 2, gaining a level is great--- but when you gain a level in FFXI, you'd take a long break and host a Rave to celebrate you gained a level. And no one would really complain about how long it takes to gain a level... why? Because the after-parties were flippin awesome!

 

Errr... Wow. I couldn't disagree more.

You can get from 74 to 75 in maybe 5 hours or so in a good party in FFXI (speaking from experience).

In Lineage 2, getting from 74 to 75 can take all day, if not longer. You're getting like .01% of a level for every 10 kills at the higher levels of L2.

Now.. at the lower levels... up to 60 or so... Lineage 2 has been considerably sped up recently. But from 60 and up it becomes a very different deal altogether, so I guess it depends on what part of the level range you're talking about.

 

Only 5 hours? Wow, I guess YOUR after-parties weren't that great, huh? :(

Originally posted by grndzro

Originally posted by Sigilaea

Originally posted by argos5

19 hours to go from 44 to 45... seems normal, I remember classic WoW being like that early on to some degree and EQ as well. But let's talk about the grand-daddy of all leveling times... how long does it take to gain a level in FFXI towards the end game? Since 44-45 is like 54-55 in WoW/EQ and FFXI is like what--- 70s ish towards level max?

 

Is FFXI a bigger grind than Lineage 2?

 

Without a doubt. Making a level in FFXI was a joyus event past 20 or so.

Yeah... Lineage 2, gaining a level is great--- but when you gain a level in FFXI, you'd take a long break and host a Rave to celebrate you gained a level. And no one would really complain about how long it takes to gain a level... why? Because the after-parties were flippin awesome!

19 hours to go from 44 to 45... seems normal, I remember classic WoW being like that early on to some degree and EQ as well. But let's talk about the grand-daddy of all leveling times... how long does it take to gain a level in FFXI towards the end game? Since 44-45 is like 54-55 in WoW/EQ and FFXI is like what--- 70s ish towards level max?

Originally posted by necklare

Nice little article.

One thing though. That Sell All Misc button you spoke of can be helpful or harmful. It's nice to unload generic items at once, but a lot of quests are for gathering materials like angelica, and others you mentioned above. It will sell those items as well. So like I said be careful with that.

You also mentioned selling basic grey items. While that is an option for those wanting to earn money, your other option is to buy a decon tool from a general goods vendor and break the item down. You'll get enchantment stones for those, which you can use to enchant your own gear, or sell on the market to more than cover the cost of the decon tool.

Just something to keep in mind.

The Sell All Misc only effects grey items... trash loot. Stuff you can't use at all. Harvested materials like Angelica do not get sold. I don't use these materials, so during beta, I ended up with a trash load of crafting materials... so i know for a fact they don't get auto-sold.

Originally posted by RedwoodSap

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by RedwoodSap

Originally posted by jusomdude

Honestly guys, they do these things for a reason... would you rather have more people in an area that the server can handle, lagging you out, or possibly DC'ing you, or would you rather have "instances" which will have more than enough people to interact with?

I never experienced what you are describing in classic EQ1 10 years ago and those starter areas were packed.

The machine and connection I used were inferior back then and server technology has improved since then.

I guess NCsoft is incompetent when it comes to infrastructure and game design.

But to answer the question, if I had to choose between the two options you describe, I choose inconvenience over instancing.

 

Show me an EQ video featuring this ammount of people without crashing.

www.youtube.com/watch       added another  www.youtube.com/watch , so many on you tube

Compilation in which several shots are full with people practically standing on top of each other.

Sorry we didn't have cutsy smile face icons to display like Aion. Not that we would have wanted them.

So... i watched your videos... and the first thing I noticed was that there were people lag-jumping all over the damn place.

I would like to add that you can switch zone channels at any time, should you and your party members be divided into two separate zone channels.

Gladiator is a DPS class. Their description states that they can take on multiple guys, but they can't take a lot of damage.

So I've played LotRO off and on over the passed 2 years. I have to wonder after looking through this thread... is there some form of elitism in the LotRO "hardcore" PvE community that has been playing this LotRO game consistently? Or is this a pattern amongst MMO gamers in general?

All of you... yes, all of you.. need to face the facts. WoW is a grinder in disguise. Aion is a bit more honest about it. Stress-relief games are grinds too. Anyone remember your semi-3D action side-scrollers like X-Men, Turtles in Time, GoldenAxe? Those games were fun and yet they were grinds. Some of the dumbest games in Newgrounds.com are grinders and the grind in the end doesn't matter--- its having fun and relieving stress doing it. All of you expect Aion to destroy WoW  or be impressive... but that's not what its suppose to be--- it has to be honest about what its doing and make it fun. The problem with WoW's current development team is that they're trying to accomodate too much to the power of the player and in most cases it loses its fun factor... same with other MMOs. So even if Aion is only good for being pretty, I'd pay money just to have fun--- and not to have an ego-battle like the rest of you goddamn people.

Originally posted by Jaklax

I know too much bout games and what it takes for them to be good.. sometimes i wish i was a dumbass, so i could just sit back and enjoy everything.. Stupid ppl have more fun

You're right, Jaklax... there's nothing special about Aion. And its true, I'm so tired of seeking to be any form of smart-- I'll just admit I'm stupid, but hell we only live once and I'd rather have fun going through it.

Originally posted by korat102

Originally posted by Kainis 

the only thing I have to do is "run as administrator" when loading Aion.

 

And that doesn't set any alarm bells ringing? Everyone bleats on about MS but there's only so much they can do when people are determined to help bypass the security on their own machines.

No, my friend. You are poorly informed. "Run as Administrator" is an option that only occurs in Windows Vista. The problem with Windows Vista is that most--- if not all programs, have to be "Run as Administrator". Microsoft overdid their security systems on Vista so that computer games require a Run as Administrator  manually enabled.

< sarcasm >

Oh yes, I definitely enjoy a game where I spend hours just to level--- just to die and lose the ability to wear the gear I've been saving up. Why? Because I'm stubborn and I'm hardcore!

And y'know, the best rewards in life are when you sink hours of your life, attention, energy, into a game where the rewards are few and long ways away--- but that's what I'm paying for, right? Because I come home from a hard days work, just to know that in MMORPGs, life sucks just as bad as in life.

But no, life doesn't suck... its just me. I'm too hardcore for life to suck and constant messages of hope and peace in these awesome games make me continue to drain my existence for prizes of Chocobos and people who share my lack of social integrity! <3 FFXI.

< / sarcasm >