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Originally posted by SEANMCAD
Originally posted by wuhsin88
Originally posted by Prhyme
Originally posted by wuhsin88
Originally posted by CyberTex
This looks like a typical rant thread after someone gets banned for doing something wrong.  Guess you got banned from their forums so you are going to come here and bash them? Sounds real mature. 

Hello, shill. How much does Rolf pay you to make these posts?

 

Also, how the ever-living fack is saying I'd rather play Minecraft than Wurm morally wrong? Explain that one too me. Sounds like something a shill would say.

Actually, with the attitude you're showing on these forums, its perfectly plausible that your ban was merited. Pro tip: it's not usually WHAT you say, but HOW you say it that triggers action. 

Your statement wasn't "morally wrong" since forum mods aren't there to judge your morality. However, going to an Wurm thread saying how you'd rather play Minecraft isn't helpful or constructive.

 

Who says everything we say/write has to be helpful and constructive? Rolf making animals go crazy and trample all tiles into packed dirt wasn't helpful or constructive. Sean telling us all that we don't need weapons in Wurm isn't helpful or constructive, it's just him being thick-headed and trying to argue with me. How is your post helpful or constructive? You're just attacking me for posting my opinions in a certain way. How is the way you post any better than the way I post? How are the opinions of those who think Wurm is the best game ever any more helpful or constructive than those of someone who played the game for a year and was forced to quit due to bad developer decisions? I'm trying to save you money, how is that not me trying to be helpful? Sean is trying to con everyone into signing up for premium and buying a deed so he can milk his trader for money to pay for his own premium. How is that helpful or constructive? I can look at almost any post in this thread and say, "Whelp, that wasn't helpful or constructive, they disagreed with my opinions. Better hit the report button." 

Why don't some of you Wurm fans try arguing with the points I made about the game instead of taking such cheap shots like, "OMG ur trolling cuz ur opinion is not helpful or constructive! Ban him!"

you dont need a weapon in Wurm.

Let alone what you are wanting which is the BEST weapon not A weapon which there is a RADICAL difference between those two statements.

Like I said, I have my own deed, solo play and played for a year and never bought anything from a merchant.

 

dont confuse 'need' with 'want'

 

What you talk'n 'bout Willis?  

Best weapon is not a weapon?

 

If you play on the Wild aka Chaos, or any of the Epic servers, which FYI are the best idea Rolf ever neglected.  The best weapon is a longsword of high quality with a large metal shield and a few enchantments on both of them.  

 

Most of what the OP said is true, that is the sad thing.  His approach is bad, and tainted with anger but he is right.  Wurm onlines forums are touchy when it comes to ANYTHING involving Notch.  I love to point out this cold hard fact.

Rolf is barely able to keep up with the operating expenses of Wurm Online, he makes enough to keep it running but not enough to hire a larger developmental team to improve on the game.  (This is besides the fact that he is a control freak who has to be in ABSOLUTE control of everything, part of the reason why Notch left.)

Meanwhile Notch made more money in one year after the release of Minecraft, with the same concept as Wurm Online just simplified, then Rolf has made in his entire life.  

 

So in short.  Who is rich and who is barely surviving?  Who is working on a second game, or a sequel that is already making more money then Wurm, and who is just now getting pretty graphics and "soon" bridges. 

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6/22/14 1:49:37 PM

Sorry, but I am a old player of Wurm.  I started playing it about 4 or 5 years ago, and played it off and on over that time.  First I will say this.....

 

It could be a good game IF Rolf had not been a prattling tw4t and bothered to listen to anyone but his own fanclub.  

 

Sure it is a massive sandbox, but the even larger grind is worse than any other game on the market now or ever!   Which is an astounding feat in itself. 

As of today June 21, 2014 the exchange rate of EUD:USD is 1.35 USD to a single EUD.  So a monthly sub of 8EUD is 10.38USD per month.   Considering what you get, it isnt worth that much because of the grind.   It can take months to get above 50 skills and be useful at anything.  It can take even longer to get your fight skill above 70 so you can defend yourself against most of the NPC mobs in the game, dont even consider PvP at that level, because most of the PvPers have paid for their accounts from others who used macros, cheats or exploits to get the skills where they are "marketable" a long time ago.

 

And yes vets still exploit new players, so as a new player you might as well name your character Toby and sing slave songs from the US south in the 1800s, because you are going to be nothing more than a slave.    I mean who finds it fun, clicking on a botton to make 1000+ bricks for someone else for a single silver... That is worth around 1 EUD.  So you are getting paid less than minimum wage in Rowanda and you are thanking them for it?!?!   Good job Toby, maybe tomarrow I will let you lick the crap off of the bottom of my taint and get the corn out of my crack.  

 

The combat system is boring as hell.  It is a relic from the 1980s, and it shows.  

 

Xanadu is nothing more than another cash grab attempt by Rolf to try and feed his vacation plans for the summer.   And he is milking those who pay for all they are worth. 

 

 

Originally posted by M4ko
Looking at screenshots, Repopulation is no different than any SciFi MMORPG from 10 years ago, even the graphics engines looks like it's 10 years old. Am I correct to say that hype is based on wanting to play those older SciFi mmos that everyone enjoyed, and wanting to relive those moments'? If that is the case than many of you will be disapointed. You may as well go and play a well established MMORPG with a shitty engine from last decade: Neocron 2 is back, and so is Face Of Mankind.  

So you are suggesting that Neocron2 and Face of Mankind, which were open ended, non-story driven, CYBERPUNK MMOs are anything like The Repopulation which is a Sci-Fi, SANDBOX MMO, closer to SWG-Pre CU then the two you listed?

 

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Team Cola
Originally posted by daemon
Originally posted by Komandor

 


Some guys from my country, who calling them self "igromania" was try to play this game lol.

 

They ask about:
1. Levels
2. Quest
3. weapon and armor from npc
....
Another WOW crap shit after that.

And some guys with naked ass and wornshort sword start to kill them on newbs spawn.....

It was fun, when i with 100 defensef stance was in block, when some random newbs was train agressive stance and swords on me, and they ask "wow, that guy block everything with naked ass, he have max lvl in this game".

Problem, what i love this game for idea, like we all dudes, but that newbs waiting from this game quality like from AAA blizzard game lol. High textures, no lags, no bugs....We all already deal with bugs, lags and crashes, it is part of game for us, but newbs can't deal with it.

We love this game like woman, we know all her problems, sins and forgive it already. Yes, another bug. Oh, game crash. It is ok.



This is quote from their forums. I think the guy is Russian judging from the post. Actually comparing this game to a woman. WOW!

 

This made me laugh so hard :))... funniest thing i read in a while.

Thanks for making my day alot better :p

I agree +1 funniest thing this morning.

But the game itself is bad, probably the worst game out there, and that says a lot.  I think its even worse than Star Quest Online which developer ran away with the code and quit programming the game after his wife divorced him.   And now Nexeon is sitting on it using it as a cash cow, not that the 10 or so players brings in that much money.

Originally posted by Toferio
Originally posted by rojo6934

I dont know about the Lore since i didnt play it enough but the buggy gameplay, animations, mechanics are enough to kill any game for me. 

As far as I know, the lore is not fully implemented because they're having troubles translating it from advanced Swedish. 

They aren't having trouble translating it, they are to lazy to bother. 

 

This "game", if you can call it a game, has been out for over 4 years maybe 5 now.  I just know it is still now as big a pile of dung as it was then.   It is unfortunate that the same problems are still there, and still going on.   I am pretty sure the same hacks and exploits are still around which only makes it worse. 

Originally posted by Maurizio

The only reason why some players, including yourselves have gotten burnt out is because you let yourselves get burnt out. You do not and should not continue to grind grind grind when you are started to feel burnt, that's the time you should jump on a boat and travel the many servers you can travel to and check out the sights and scenaries. 

Yes the OP is right about a few things, but mainly the OP post is based on his game play and how he went about it. Yes it sucks when your villagers stop playing, but your village and villagers shouldnt be the only thing keeping you playing. I often times like to explore and bash into places as its an exciting way to break up the same old clicking for grinding.

I also feel people get bored because they play the game wrong. Let me explain....

Understandably there are players who do not want to build in a PVP server due to fear of losing their things and their village. But the beauty of Wurm when it does allow, like it does right now is the option to be able to travel through servers... 4 Freedom servers currently and 1 attached PVP server. It makes it fun to build up a bunch of thigns you might need to bring with you, perhaps a few sets of armor, perhaps some no locate rings and so on... Come over to chaos with your group, tunnel into a little cave and build yourself a hide out. Have enough stuff with you to be able to die a dozen or so times just incase, and just venture out and have some fun in land never explored. At one time yes chaos/wild was just a place for if you were either with MR or JK but that is no more.... Today BL is back and then theres also the random Freedomers who have started to build a little something for the specific reason of showing new players to the server that there is a place for them to at least be a part of a new community and help each other and most importantly keep new players playing. ( My group and I have recently built up a place to call home for all freedomers.)

So yes, although i do agree there is grinding to be done, there is at times a sense of feeling of work, But these feelings are only if you make them feel that way. If you feel like its just work, then perhaps what you are doing has no greater meaning to it, perhaps the end picture of what you are working on is just because and not for something bigger... My group and I have been building a fairly decent sized village in which we hope to make one day into a community of new players all helping one anohter, farming, breeding and so on. Yes it is a lot of work, which started with just 3 of us doing all the heavy work load, 1 person alone building all the stone houses, so far we have probably 30 to 50k bricks invested into what we have worked on. Its no simple task, but as we started to build more and more new players joined up with us, and since we had a vision and we shared it with new players that has made them stick with the game. Our retention rate is by far higher then 10% of new players. probably more like 80% to be honest.

 

Bottom line is, all I am saying is rather then give up and just quitting, why not look into what else Wurm has to offer. Chaos/Wild is not that scary, and if anyone has been paying attention lately there has been lots of fighting on chaos. Which brings me to one other thing about playing "wrong" (I say it like that because i dont mean it in a way that people should or shouldnt be playing how they want, just ...) Rather then the normal style i have seen many play for years which is very strict like having 1 suit or armor 1 set of tools and if they die they get bummed out because they have to remake it all... The game while playing with a group of people could be fun and slightly a production line which would in turn make it where players do not have to do the entire process themselves. They would be helped along the way and as the items reach them all they have to do is lets say imp the item 20ql vs the full 10 - 80 ql, if you get what i mean.

Sorry for my rant, I just wanted to show there are always other options players can choose if they so wanted to. Vs just quitting and giving up and making everything feel like work. The most important thing is being able to enjoy play time and having a small community to do it with and have some laughs with makes the game much more interesting.

Looking at your sig, I can tell we played the same game Roma Victor.   And I cant tell you I enjoyed that game with all of its flaws far more than I do Wurm Online.    Not because it was a grind, the grind wasn't near as bad as Wurm.   Wurm if I want to make a hammer I have to grind for what seems like hours, and is actually HOURS to make a hammer.    Sure I you do a lot of sitting around waiting in Roma Victor waiting for the stuff to finish "cooking" but not like Wurm.   Where you do the same tasks over and over and over, without setting up a macro to do it for you because you cant be bothered to sit in front of you the computer for hours if not days just to have skill enough to make something you need, to make something else.

You all act like being banned from the MWO forums is the end.  I was permabanned twice, and I still post there on a third account.   But I havent bothered to post there in months because the game is just World of Tanks with big stompy robots that vaguely look like Battlemechs from the FASA game Battletech.   I gave up on MWO and went back to looking for a Multi-player Battletech :3025 or even Solaris EMU.  

The OP is dead on with his review of Wurm Online.   I know I left when it started feeling like work.   When I had to log in every day to tend to the fields, or the animals, and maintain the repairs on the walls.   It was just annoying, to log into a game to put in 4 hours of work so I can go play, so I left.   I gave Wurm Online about 6 months and it was before all the pretty graphics updates, but I see the game hasnt changed.   

 

So I went to Starquest Online, which can be a grind also but after Wurm Online it is nothing.

Originally posted by Onomas

SWG I played from launch to 6 months before closure. I can honestly say I never had a slow moment, always something to do. Never was I bored or lacked content. I wish someone would make SWG 2.0 or just reopen the old SWG servers.

From exploration, crafting, social hubs, just chatting, taking your time, decorating your house that was more useful than any new aged housing, to adventure and see multiple planets not just a new continent but entire worlds, space flight and combat that was pretty well done, player created vendors and interaction with sales aspect of a game, and soooooo much more.

I can not believe SWTOR went the route it did instead of following in SWG footsteps to make it 100% better. To much new age console rpg style game play in todays mmorpg's just kills the feeling I once had when playing mmorpg's. Only a handful of games have ever kept me content for a long period of time,SWG had everything I enjoy in a mmo. My opinion of course, if SWG went F2P, it would have done better than SWTOR.

"There is another..." -Yoda

 

If you look you will find that your wish is true.  

And I loved SWG-PreCU, it was perhaps the best game I played outside of Ultima Online.  

50 dollars a year isnt bad. 

 

XBox live is more expensive than that. 

 

So 4.25 a month is pretty cheap for access to the net through my PS3 or PS4.   If you are smart you can actually cut out a large expense by removing otherthings that are reduntant in your life. 

 

I know when I picked up XBOX Live and dropped my Cable TV, I replaced it with HULU Plus, Netflix and HBOGO.     I actually cut out almost 80bucks a month in bills that were reduntant.  And I can watch whatever whenever I want.

The OP is right the tier drop system is broken, but otherwise WOT is a good game.

 

Is it perfect no, do I currently play it, no.   But do I pick it up every so often to play, yeah. 

Originally posted by Revnik
Originally posted by Elevenb4
Originally posted by jfoytek
Eve is a decent sandbox but there is no other Sandbox like Wurm Online its the next level of Sandbox EvE really cant touch it from a Sandbox point of view!!!

I"ve only recently stopped playing Eve (needed a break) and ha been looking for another Sandbox to play. I've been playing for 3 days, about 5 hours total and I can say this statement is definitely corrent. Wurm is crazy in depth. I dont' think I've ever played another game like it other than Minecraft. But even Minecraft can't touch the depth of this game that I've seen in 5 hours.

I love the depth of the crafting but that is all there is... The lack of decent combat and the lack of substanial purpose can almost be overlooked but then the new price increases... No way.

This is why I went to Starquest Online. 

Originally posted by Urvan
Originally posted by Qullex
Originally posted by Scottyak

Werewolf the Apocalypse or GTFO.

Last they said, they were starting with VtM and vanilla humans. Others would be added later.

Funny cus I coudl have sworn I heard they were gonna have werewolves as well.  I do hope so as I only wish to play a werewolf.

I dont like leeches, I dont play a leech, and I cant stand them.  Shadow Lord all the way.

Originally posted by reaperuk

I don't know why so many people are in denial regarding F2P and B2P being the predominant business models for MMO's going forward. You've only got to look at the games list on this site to see how few MMO's use the subscription model anymore. Most of the ones that do are aging games with tiny player numbers too. Eve and WoW are the notable exceptions.

I realised last year that it's unlikely I will ever be tempted to buy a subscription game again. I have bought and played numerous ones over the years but have never stayed with any of them beyond the first two or three months other than SWG, which I played for about eighteen months continuously until the CU ruined it., Indeed I had multiple subscriptions being a mayor and guild leader.

That is the way the MMO industry worked back in the early days and the alternatives also required a monthly sub so there wasn't much choice. However, Guild wars turned everything on its head by being buy to play and a year or so later, I got into the early stages of the LotRO closed beta and was impressed enough that I leapt at the chance of a lifetime sub when it launched in 2007. Since then, I've tried a few F2P games and never felt ripped off by any of them. I just bought  things as and when needed, on a pay as you go basis. Most recently, I've been playing GW2 and Defiance, both B2P and with most of the sub games I played in recent years also going F2P once their populations fell I now have a pretty large choice of games available to me that don't require a sub.

Any new game has to appeal to people like me and I'm sure the Repopulation people are going in the right direction with their financial plans. I'm really looking forward to this game and just hope it turns out as good as it sounds. It's not like I'm expecting something for nothing, I've already pledged a chunk of money to help with development costs but if it had been slated as a monthly sub game, I probably wouldn't have done that.

What you said is exactly how I feel.   I cant expand on it any further, well said.

I am an "old fart" gamer, at the ripe old age of 35, I have been gaming online since 1992-93.   I remember back when you used to have to pay by the hour for some games, and others were so massive that they blew your mind, like Ultima Online.  

 

The problem in gaming is not the current trend of instant gratification, or easy mode gameplay.  But that more people are feeling comfirtable with being lazy, or just mean in games and the forums.   Most gamers out there now say things, or do things, they wouldnt dare to say in person.     Need I remind everyone of the backlash from when Blizzard was going to change all profile names to the account holders real name.   ((Not that I feel that would have worked, hell most of the real trouble makers dont have real names in the profile anyway.))

I remember when in a chat for a game if one person started belittling another person or trolling them, others in the community would step up and help the victim.   Now people just gang up on the victim and only make it worse. 

Originally posted by pkme

Having not played the game, but a big sandbox gamer myself, I would like to know what do you do in game.   What is there to do in game that is really sandboxish?  

Fishing, mining, and cooking isnt in itself sandbox.    I can point out facebook games that let you do that, and I would hardly call them sandboxes.   (more like litterboxes)

There is no careers and nothing to compare with SWG preCU, DARKFALL is just an FTS with lots repeat click to destroy your mouse(cuz the ui is terrible, u have to drag everything from your backpack to bank one by one)

There is no auction house, and u can only build house just like DF1 in limited area, ofcuz u can just mine as a weapon crafter in DFUW, but trust me, the craft able items are very limited right now. Based to my experience with AV, any patch brings new problem to themself, and u never get new items from them. After that, AV will just wipe DFUW and create another title for this same old shit again.

Not trying to troll, just wanting to know is there more to the game than just fighting, mining, fishing, cooking, and crafting.   Is there housing, careers, can I play a cook who doesnt fight, and do well as that?  Can I be an entertainer like in SWG?   Can I just build tables or mine ore and live the life of a simple man?   Can I own a store, and sell things to other players, not through a auction house but through my own stall or shop like in Ultima Online.  

Those are things I look at when I think of sandbox.   No limits just opportunities.

thanks for the response.   You answered everything I needed to know.  So AV and SV have more incommon than most people would admit.   But I have to be careful, I might get in trouble for saying that.

UO, was better pre-Trammel.   It actually made the economy circulate instead of stagnate.   Players who werent PvPers stayed in groups, PvPers made friends and worked together to raid common PVE hunting areas.   Players who lost gear needed it replaced, bought it from crafters who rarely left the safety of towns.   It was a real economy, it worked.   This is why games like Mortal Online, DFUW, all fall short.    They are PVP first, crafting second, economy maybe.   Eve actually follows the original UO concept pretty well, with security zones.   You can be completely safe as a PvE player in the HIGH sec zones, not to say you wont be killed by the random PvPer, but its RARE, real rare.   But if you want the better stuff, you need to go out into the lower sec areas to get it.   Or pay someone to do it for you.  
Originally posted by muaythai

mining/fishing/cookiing/crafting its a big part of a hardcore sandbox mmo dude,wtf you talking about?

and the world is not empty,is just BIG.

Having not played the game, but a big sandbox gamer myself, I would like to know what do you do in game.   What is there to do in game that is really sandboxish?  

 

Fishing, mining, and cooking isnt in itself sandbox.    I can point out facebook games that let you do that, and I would hardly call them sandboxes.   (more like litterboxes)

 

Not trying to troll, just wanting to know is there more to the game than just fighting, mining, fishing, cooking, and crafting.   Is there housing, careers, can I play a cook who doesnt fight, and do well as that?  Can I be an entertainer like in SWG?   Can I just build tables or mine ore and live the life of a simple man?   Can I own a store, and sell things to other players, not through a auction house but through my own stall or shop like in Ultima Online.  

 

Those are things I look at when I think of sandbox.   No limits just opportunities.

I normally hate Angry Joe reviews.  He isnt angry as much whines like a little girl trapped in a adult mans body.    Yelling doesnt make you sound mad, or important just idiotic and retarded.  

 

With that said, he is right about this game.   I cant say much other than, meh.    I am sure it would be fun for the mindless masses who enjoy playing Fido and fetching this and that, but past that there isnt much else.

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