Originally posted by VeiledBlack

 

Looking at Biowares previous RPG's it's hard to say they haven't done a brilliant job, particularly with the Mass Effect trilogy...

As for Blizzard's own new game, considering their horrid performance as of late (at least in my opinion) and considering how much I dislike the repetitive  and simplistic nature of WoW ...

Mass Effect is a simple game.

To tell the truth Mass Effect gets the KOTOR formula, simplify it and then mix it with Gears of War, all with great production value and cinematic story telling.(keep in mind, cinematic is not equal to complex)

Encounters, party dynamics, character development, spells/skills system and interaction between classes are always simple in the last Bioware games, Dragon Age has it a bit more indepth but it is a bit simplistic if you compare to a couple of JRPGs that also use party system in single player games.

Mass Effect 2 is even more simple than the first, but it has more action and cinematic feel with great production value.

World of Warcraft and Blizzard games are not more "simplistic" than Bioware games, especially after Baldur's Gate.

Compare group dynamics, character development, gear system, spells/skills/buffs/debuffs in WoW (or EQ2/EQ/GW/VG) with Mass Effect.

Don't forget that everything is easy in Mass Effect, every player will be able to watch the whole story. In MMORPGs, including Blizzard's game you have the ultra easy, easy, medium, hard and very hard encounters, raids and bosses. Do you think Bioware can pull the variety is needed in a MMO?

As I said, Mass Effect is easy and acessible all the time, but lets take Dragon Age that is a bit more challenging.

In Dragon Age some ordinary enemies hit harder and kill you faster than Bosses, encounter balace is something Bioware never was able to create.

See, there are a lot of cutscenes, facial animations and dialogues in Mass Effect, but it doesn't make it a "complex" game.

Do you think dialogue options make Mass Effect complex? Then Heavy Rain would be an ultra complex game.

You have a lot of cutscenes and dialogues in Mafia, Silent Hill2 and even Soul Reaver, but the story and moral concept of these games still are much more complex than the stories of Bioware games were you will always find all kind of cliches.

I am not saying complex is good and simple is bad, I just disagree with your argument. Bioware games are not complex (especially comparing to blizzard, soe, arena net, nc soft games), are not challenging, but they are well produced for sure.

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Originally posted by arcdevil

 

try FallOut 3, Oblivion or ME

omg whats that?!!?  twitch based combat in excellent computer role playing games?

heresy!!!  grab the pinchforks guys

 

 

ring ring,the 21st century calling...
 

 

Oblivion/Morrowind combat is very clunky and simplistic. Demon's Souls has a far more challenging, deep, complex and rewarding real time combat than any Elder Scrolls game especially the melee combat and defensive tatics.

Mass Effect's combat unfortunatelly is a lesser version of Gears of War combat and Fallout3 has a clunky version of FPS combat, both games can improve in that area. But in my opinion both Fallout and Mass Effect could be better if they had a more complex progression, character development , gear system and challenge.

Yes you have the illusion of a deep character development in Fallout but the real impact in the ingame challenges is insignificant. Just like the illusion that Fallout is a huge open game, while it is in the end a short and casual one, especially if you compare to Morrowind... and even Oblivion.

They are (FO3 and ME) RPG lite, Shooter llite but with a considerable production value, so I understand why so many players like them.

EDIT- Deus Ex and SystemShock are, in my opinion better examples of RPG/Shooter than Fallout3 or Mass Effect. This idea that semi turn based combat is something from the past and today every game should play like a FPS is (and I am sure about it) a bad idea. Turn based combat does not exist because of technology limitation it is a design that many game designers and gamers enjoy.

But when we talk about real time combat in a RPG game, Demon's Souls is the perfect example of action, challenge and complexity.

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Originally posted by Mardy

Originally posted by just2duh 

 I'm not sure, completly avoided that one with it being conan and all. But if it had as deep of combat system as i'm referencing, i'd probably be playing it.

 

Try it, it does have a more complex combat system.  Report back after a few weeks and let us know what you think.

I disagree, Age of Conan combat is not "more complex" it is more simple but faster.

The interaction between classes skills/spells, buff, debuffs, stuns in a party are usually much more simple in action oriented MMORPGs and this is the case with AOC even with the directional defense/attacks. As we are talking about MMORPGs the group dynamics combat means a lot more than solo combat.

Some action oriented games (FPS/TPS/H&S)  have complex and indepth combat, but usually combat mechanics in most action games are much more simple than in turn based/semi turn based games.

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Originally posted by Maligar

Let's not even begin to talk about my fears for the "multiplayer" aspect of it.  One phrase... "NPC companions"  This phrase in and of itself causes me GREAT concern.  I am by no means a stickler for forced grouping.  Not no way, not no how.  But I am one of those types of players that likes to see a slight need to rely on my fellow player. 

You have a good point.

Every Bioware game has 3 details that doen't work well in a MMO.

1- Group/Class interaction between the player and NPCs is simplistic, very simplistic in every Bioware RPG. If we compare the group dynamics of Bioware games with Square Enix games it is easy to realise Bioware does not care or just don't know how to create a interesting and more complex "party" dynamics. This may work well with just one player and a couple of NPCs or in a multiplayer session in NeverWinter Nights, but it would be horrid in a MMORPG.

2-Broken worlds- every game Bioware made does not had the idea of a breathing world in it, I am not talking about zoning only, but loading all the time, the storytelling is more important than the feeling of a "alternative universe" for Bioware. Will they try something different now? They never did something really new, especially after KOTOR, every Bioware game that came after is a evolution of KOTOR, Dragon Age has a bit more of Baldur's Gate on it, but even so, will they revolutionize their on patterns to create a "game universe" needed in a MMORPG?

3-They never created complex combat dynamics that showed how important spells, skills and gear can be, usually in a Bioware games you have a selection of skills and spells and get loot all the time, but everything is generic and does not compare to the mechanics of gear/characters skills/stats of MMORPGs like Everquest2, Vanguard, WoW and Guild Wars. This is not a real issue in single player games that have a short term gameplay, will it work in a MMORPG?

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Originally posted by Deewe

 

 

• Bigger or more often free content updates

 

 

 

Deewe.

You won't find any MMORPG that has more content (dungeons, raids, quests, minigames, social content etc) than Everquest, Everquest2 and World of Warcraft.

Those 3 games charge for new and big expansions and usually have small updates.

The only 3 games in the market that usually get a good amount of content for free are Lineage 2, EvE and probably AION in the near future.

Even so, those free patches are not as big as a new EQ2 expansion or WoW expansion, but after a couple of years games like Lineage 2 are 4x bigger and its players got everything for "free".

Lord of the Rings online usually get updates for free (just like EQ2 and WoW sometimes can get more dungeons or instances without a real expansion) but Lord of the Rings real expansions are NOT free. They charge for it, just like Blizzard and SOE and even so you can't compare the group content and raid content in Lotro with EQ/EQ2 and WoW, EQs and WoW have more content.

So, when we talk about real free content in a Fantasy MMORPG you will only get significant content for free with Lineage 2 and probably with AION (we don't know yet).

What you see around here about free content in Darkfall, AoC and other games are nothing more than small content patches that you get in every MMO or things that should be ingame at the release.

Originally posted by Nogond

 

 

We thought about that for a very long time, but we decided that we wanted to try this project out. If we don't succed with this we will maybe do as you said.

Amy Henning is now writting for the Uncharted series so we will probably never see more Legacy of Kain games comming from Eidos.

It is an interesting project but I think if something goes wrong you should go on and try something inspired by LoK, good luck.

Originally posted by Cephus404

Whether or not that's true, it's really irrelevant.  Just because a lot of people are stupid doesn't mean we ought to adopt stupidity as the new standard.  These people have something wrong with them, pure and simple.  They need to be told that they have something wrong with them and shown what they ought to be doing instead.  The ridiculous idea, far too common online, that anyone can do anything they want and nobody had better ever say otherwise is absurd.

We're supposed to want the betterment of humanity, not the lowest-common denominator.

When I say this attitude is present even in more implicitly ways it doesn't mean I am backing up it.

Any kind of  judgmental attitude must be fought.

But the only way to understand what is wrong it to talk about it.

Not that I see anything wrong when people want to experience new roles, but I assume you are talking about the judgmental attitude expressed by the O.P.

Sex and the concept of gender will be always present in social environments, especially virtual ones where there is anonymity.

I don't think that the agressive attitude comes from people who see too much sexuality into games and virtual words as you said. The issue is the lack of respect and acceptance and not lust.

Just to be clear, I never defended any ignorant behavior and I do not agree with the O.P.

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Originally posted by maji

My apologies, I didn't want to verbally attack you. I get sometimes carried away when discussions involve narrow minded and old fashioned people.

I agree that in general it's an interesting subject, but I think that most people talk too much into this. Many people always think there must be a deeper reason for everything. And when it involves something they don't like then it must be the beginning of something horrible. I personally often like to play the underdogs. The combinatio of classes and races and playstyles that are rarely used, so I played for a while a female dwarven rogue in WoW. And that's just one example. I like playing dwarves in general in games. Does it mean I have a fetish for small people? That would be new to me. If a char of mine in EVE was bald, does it mean I think that nazi's or people after a chemo-therapy are attractive? I doubt that.
People just interpret far too much into things. That doesn't mean that there ain't always stuff to interprete, but most often it's the other way round.

Yes I really understand whay you said.

To tell the truth I agree with some of your concepts and some of them are pretty similar to my points of view.

But we also know that what you said does not apply to everyone.

If someone usually create small characters, there is the possibility that this person has personal indentification with small characters.

We can find a lot of man who play as woman and indentify himself with a feminine figure for social reasons and not sexual reasons even if they reveal this side only in virtual words. Sometimes, as you said, there is nothing to interpret, sometimes it is really a fetish etc

The problem is that this topic started in a bad and agressive way.

Originally posted by Cephus404

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Cephus404

 

Exactly.  It's just as idiotic as saying "you're human, why would you ever play a dwarf in a game?"  Some people just don't comprehend what roleplaying is.

I agree that in a roleplaying game the possibility to act and play as something/one you are not is there and should be experienced.

But the opposite gender can generate reactions in a social game that a different race would not.

So,  it is not exaclty always the same.

Of course, for some players it would be just a different skin, but it is pretty common in social games or social virtual places in the internet to find people who is after something more using the opposite gender to express themselves.

That is nothing wrong with this, especially in RP games, but as it seems to be somehow a taboo, most players who do that will always use a more simple explanation or just say they like to watch the character's butt, when sometimes it is a matter of indentification,  social satisfaction etc

 

The problem is, there are some emotionally-immature individuals who cannot look at a picture without imagining having sex with it.  That's really what it comes down to, people who want to imagine sex with animated computer-generated images, but get freaked out that the real-life human behind it might be the opposite gender.

Here's the quick way to fix it.  They need to stop being such immature pricks and grow the hell up.  Everything on the planet with breasts is not their sex toy.

If they can do that, the problem magically vanishes.  Imagine that.

Yes, this kind of attitude can be a problem sometimes. But as we all know this kind of attitude exists even in a more implicitly way it is easy to understand why different genders in social games does not bring the same reactions as different races.

But if we forget the judgmental words expressed by the O.P. this subject can be interesting.

The same way people who play with the opposite gender and act as the opposite gender in virtual words seems to avoid talk about their reasons in a open way, the other side is ready to judge, throw stones etc

Most people are emotionally immature even if this imaturity is expressed in different ways.

Originally posted by Aalynia

 I have been debating on whether or not I want to respond to this thread, partially because I know I'm inevitably going to get flamed and whatever else.

I'm a girl. And yes, I know all the jokes--"Guy In Real Life, maybe!" etc. And before you ask, yes, I'm married.

I play female characters. Heck, I go as far as trying to make them similar to me (same hair color, eye color if possible, and the like). And since I'm Lawful Good at heart, I also tend to play "good" characters--Paladins, Clerics, Priests. I couldn't even bring myself to play a DK in WoW--I felt too evil.

Now the reason I play these characters is because I can feel a connection to them in a way I cannot feel a connection to a male toon. I feel that if I play a female character, I can automatically insert my mind set into that character--she's a girl right? I'm sure she'll like having all those non-combat pets! 

That's not to say I could never-ever jump into a male role--when I read literature, particularly Medieval literature, Renaissance and the like, there are typically male heroes. And I'm totally fine with male protagonists--why? Because the male thought pattern is filled in for me. I'm not trying to put in my thoughts into a character as I do with a game. When I play a male character, I hardly know what to think, feel, or do. If it's a Paladin-type character (like in Diablo II, I'm forced to be male), I typically fill-in-the-persona with things typical of Arthurian lore, so I don't need to try to come up with something myself.

I certainly do not think of these things when I'm creating my character though. I go in, click female, give her blonde hair and gray or blue eyes, and go play. Yet when I sit and think of the motives of that, that's what I come up with.

You could also go into gender studies, like Judith Butler, and think about gender as a societal construct and as a performance and how we act as these particular roles--but I'm not sure if the MMORPG.com community really wants to delve into that. :-D

This is an interesting post and express well the fact that a lot of players will have personal indentifications with characters that are played for long periods of time and in an social environment.

It is easy to understand your reasons Aalynia and I supose (and know) that a lot of male players also have this kind of personal indentification with their female characters and would be an interesting subject to talk about if it would possible to talk about it in a open way here.

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Originally posted by Cephus404

 

Exactly.  It's just as idiotic as saying "you're human, why would you ever play a dwarf in a game?"  Some people just don't comprehend what roleplaying is.

I agree that in a roleplaying game the possibility to act and play as something/one you are not is there and should be experienced.

But the opposite gender can generate reactions in a social game that a different race would not.

So,  it is not exaclty always the same.

Of course, for some players it would be just a different skin, but it is pretty common in social games or social virtual places in the internet to find people who is after something more using the opposite gender to express themselves.

That is nothing wrong with this, especially in RP games, but as it seems to be somehow a taboo, most players who do that will always use a more simple explanation or just say they like to watch the character's butt, when sometimes it is a matter of indentification,  social satisfaction etc

Legacy of Kain is one of the best game series ever created lore and story wise.

But I would not recommend a project like this.

Use Legacy of Kain as inspiration for something unique, it would be better for you and everyone related to this project for legal and creative reasons.

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Originally posted by nakuma

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by nakuma

Originally posted by thorosuch

I just can't comprehend the mentality of some players...Honestly...

Why do men play female characters in MMO's?

The most common response I get to this question is....

Well, if I have to spend hours playing a game I'd rather watch the butt of a female than a male character...

Huh? I don't go for it. First of all who says you have to play. Second, if your purpose for playing a game is to watch a the one inch butt of a female toon run around a computer screen...I think you have a serious issue.

Another that someone, that plays gender correct, told me that they think men do this in hopes of getting free gear and stuff from other male players. Now that one I can believe. Sorry saps that they may be.

Now a lot of you will probably come up with, "Well what about women that play male characters?"

I think they may do it to avoid being hit on by the probable large percentage of males that do; do that in MMO's.

Anyway here's the thing...is not the character you play supposed to be your alter ego? Haha...guess these men actually desire to be female.

 

why do you care if a guy plays as a female? You have no reason to say whether or not that person is a female in real life or not. does it get you that butthurt that some dude rolls a female toon?? if so, you have serious issues. Or maybe you've hit on female toons thinking they were girls and got disappointed to realize it was some dude and you wasted your time bribing "her" hoping " hey maybe if igive her this gold, or this gear itll increase my chances yeah thatll do it, ill show her how L33t I am, yeahhh". I think anyone who gets this butthurt over someone chosing the opposite sex needs to seek help or get a girl.

 

Nakuma.

1- I hit girls and boys in real life.

2- I am not looking for sex in MMORPGs.

3-I don't care if a player is male of female, but my companions in games are usually females that I know in person.

4-As I said, I have personal friends that enjoy cross-dressing social moments in game because ... hmm, they are cross dresses (in the closet) in real life.

What I said about that not everyone play as the opposite gender just because their like the avatar image is not always truth, especially in a social game.

You should apologize to act the way you did before even understand what I said in my previous posts.

 

no im not apologizing. the fact you are coming on a different account than your original post shows that your a puss and cant fess up to taking the heat on the topic. As I said why are you so butthurt about people's choice in gender for playing. There is no real rhyme or reason you should care.

Unless..... you are trying to get to know girl better in the hopes of getting a date. IF that is the case 1) good majority of girls who play MMO's are potentially fatties! so you are in all event rolling the dice in hopes she is f***able, Secondly, you can cut the middleman out alot faster by going to a club or the bar scene and socializing with a real girl. There is no guessing, what you see is what you get. You know..... maybe buy her a drink, tell her how pretty she is, if she wants to dance,ask her what her name is, whats she likes, if she wants to meet up for lunch or coffee later or give u her number.....wow! was it that easy? amazing.....go forth my child! and be prosperous! i gave you the tools, go and use them! lol

 

In the end if you dont like a dude playing a female avatar......TOO BAD...QQ some more.

I misquoted you.

I was replying to another poster and got your post.

Check my posts here and you will see.

This is why our conversation made no sense

 Misquote

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

Sorry, I probably missed that part in your post.

Still, since this is the internet, i have seen more people be open and honest about their reasons, one of them in this thread.

Since it is more anonymous I think people are more apt to be honest about their reasons as the internet is one of the few places one can be who they are without having to explain. Of course, one can be who they aren't as well.

For instnace, I'm 6' 4" look like cary grant and am a nuclear phsysist when I'm not saving whole societies with my laser beam vision.

I agree with you about the internet.

A MMORPG is a nice place to experience roles that we can't experience in real life.

I understand that to be able to experience the social role of the opposite gender can be pleasant for a lot of people. But it seems it is somehow a taboo to talk about it in a deeper way and to talk about the fact that sometimes there is a social reason behind it.

Remember, I understand that your personal reasons to play with a female avatar are not related to the social side of the mmos.

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Originally posted by maji

Originally posted by Umbral

But in the end it is not the same because in a MMO game the player will socialize and represent him/herself as the opposite gender to another players. In most cases the others will never know the real gender of that player.

So, we can say that a male player playing and using a female image to socialize in a game is into a kind of "virtual cross-dressing" especially when the player want to flirt or to have benefits that usually female players would get.

 

Sorry but I think that's a bit silly. In the end it's all about what people expect.
For example in FE I got two female and a male chars. I play the game and consider other players simply as other people. The thought which gender they might have in real life is something that doesn't cross my mind while playing the game. They are people with whom I sometimes quest, or who help each or whatnot. Why should I care about their gender? It's just a game where people play the role of a clone in a post-apocalyptic setting.
And the same I expect from most people. I play the character and I expect that most other people don't waste any thought about who I might be in real life. I don't pretend to be a member of the opposite sex in rl (nor do I know anyone who does so). If someone would ask me "hey, u gotz b00bz in rlz?!? roflz" I'd do a /facepalm and wonder how the person got in an 18+ game. Maybe I'd reply "whats that your business" or "I'm a guy" or whatnot, but I wouldn't try to pretend to be someone who I ain't. Not because it has something to do with genders but because it makes no sense. I'd neither pretend to be older or younger than I am or about the fur-color of my cat.

And as said I personally don't care what a person might look like in rl when I meet them in a game. Sometimes those "post an rl photo" threads on the boards are interesting, but that's then something different because it's about the way the people look alltogether and not only about their gender.

And I still don't get why it should matter what gender the person has you quest with in an online game. I just don't understand it. It's just so incredibly shallow as attitude. So surficial. And so irrelevant too.

Not to mention the story about homosexual desires or wishes to be the opposite gender. Man that just cracks me up, because it makes totally no sense either. Of course there are people with the desire to be the opposite gender but not beeing strong enough (or the desire not beeing strong enough) to tackle the problem in rl. And they are happier when they can play the gender of their preference in a game. Sure that exists. And I'm glad that those people feel better when playing the game. We live only once and should do whatever we want to to feel good (as long as we don't hurt others that way).

But what you do is following:
"All People who wish to be of the opposite gender in rl like to play the opposite gender in video games. As such, all people who play the opposite gender in video games like to be the opposite gender in rl".
That is the same logic as in following example: "All bears are animals. As such, all animals are bears."

Notice something? It makes no sense.

Even if people would lie about their rl gender in games I wouldn't care about it. First because it doesn't interest me anyway, and second because it's the internet for gods sake. What can you believe? If someone in the internet says "yeah I'm at the FBI" or "wait a moment please, I think something is wrong with one of my 10 BMW cars outside my mansion" then I just shrug as well. Let people say what they want, what do I care about it?

And the story about homosexual desires is strange anyway. According to scientific studies the seperation of people into heretosexual, bisexual and homosexual is far too simply to come anything near the truth. Like, there are also pansexual people for whom gender ain't important at all. And according to said studies noone is 100% of one of those categories, but everyone is everywhere somewhere inbetween. Just the way we are raised brainwashes us in such a way that we believe only said categories exist.

Read again what I said Maji.

1- I didn't say that everyone does that for the same reasons.

2-I didnt't say  it matters to ME.

3-Yes I said it is an interesting subject especially when we talk about human behavior.

If someone has deeper reasons for that, if someone want the social benefits that the opposite gender can get then we can call it Virtual Crossdressing.

Ok you don't do that for any special reason, but not everyone is just like you.

What is very strange is that when someone express some other reasons here people see it as a taboo.

I am not pointing fingers and I said the first time that anyone should be free to express their desires.

EDIT -Misquoted nakuma's post.

Originally posted by Sovrath

 

But you are assuming that players are making making theleap that it is different from a tomb raider or bayonetta.

Regardless of the socializing I don't. There is no "oh wait, I'm socialzing and I have a female avatar". The two are very separate for me and I imagine for many that can be the same thing.

This is why I said that for some player the opposite gender hero image is enough.

Just like you some player will act as themselves even with a female character. Deep down the road is not exacly virtual cross-dressing to your eyes because you are playing as you play Bayonetta.

I am not assuming that everyone who does that is "a virtual crossdresser". But even here some player said that they like the "benefits" a woman would get ingame, when someone act as the opposite sex to get benefits (social, sexual, monetary etc), we can call it cross-dressing.

Some others said here that they don't have personal indentification with "bulky" male characters, but they have personal indentification with the female image. This is a personal transsexual attitude based on indentification, it has nothing to do with homosexualism. It is pretty normal to a man to feel more femine inside.

You said the two (avatar image and social relations) are very separate for you, I understand that. But as I said , everyone has a reason.

EDIT-I personally know players that play as the opposite gender for the same reasons you do but as I also know players that do the same for sexual reasons, social reasons etc. The problem is, players who have deeper reasons will not tell it here, everyone will use the same arguments you are using, even when it is not really the reason...

Everyone has personal reasons to play as the opposite gender or not.

But this is an interesting subject.

Play as the opposite gender in a MMORPG may be, for some people, similar to a male playing Bayonetta, No one lives forever or Tomb Rider (good games).

But in the end it is not the same because in a MMO game the player will socialize and represent him/herself as the opposite gender to another players. In most cases the others will never know the real gender of that player.

So, we can say that a male player playing and using a female image to socialize in a game is into a kind of "virtual cross-dressing" especially when the player want to flirt or to have benefits that usually female players would get.

I personally know a lot of people who played as the opposite gender and later on in privacy confessed to desire to be the opposite gender in real life for homossexual hidden desires or social/familiar hidden desires.

You will find a lot of people that do it just because they enjoy the image of the opposite gender hero. But remember, when someone act as the opposite gender in a social environment for personal reasons, benefits etc then it is an example of "Virtual Crosssdressing".

Virtual Cross-dressing, opossite gender hero image, homosexual or transsexual desires, benefits ... every player who does it will have personal reasons for that, but everyone should be able and free to do it without judgment.

The issue here is, most people who do that for a deeper reason will not confess it to you here.

EDIT-Play a social game as the opposite gender is NOT like play as a different or exotic race and you all know it. The benefits and social aspects someone gets in return when posing as the opposite gender has nothing to do with the possibility of different social behavior someone would get as a different race... please don't confuse with "factions" between races and social reactions related to pvp in games where there are opposite races. Gender matters in human social environment in a way that fantastic races do not.

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Originally posted by bluebawles

Simply Brilliant - makes Darkfall appear in a whole new "evil" light, apart from the usual massive pvp combat videos.

 

www.youtube.com/watch

 

The DF video contest is showing some great work from the player base.

All the "evil" feeling is there not because of the ingame landscapes or ingame content, it is only expressed by post production effects.

It reminds me the new horror approach of today's "teens" movies, a lot of drums and orchestra hits in the music, action and no atmosphere or a deeper sense of horror.

The "bad ass" cliche does not go well with horror, and there is too much of that in the video.

The same video could be produced with any other game using the same amount of post production.

In my opinion it would be a better video if it used more of the ingame world and lore and less of post production effect to make something that doen't look exactly dark to look as a halloween cliche... but it is a "cool" player made video, just a bad "horror" video.