Music:  Terrible.  The guy sings like a cat riding a chainsaw blade.

Graphics: Even worse.  I've seen Commodore 64 games that looked better.

I'm sure you posted earlier pointing people to this video.  It was just as bad then.

Originally posted by Rigonn

I might try EvE although it's complicity is far more than expected.

It keeps the majority of the munchkins out.

Trust Sony to do something nuts like that.  It just reinforces the notion that I must never, ever use their services again.  Ever.

Originally posted by John.A.Zoid

I'm still waiting to care about anything Ncsoft create as the only hit they had in the western world was GuildWar and that was only because it had no subscription fee and people are suckers for that. All their Asain games have the same look.

Why do Asain people always have character models that don't look anything like a human? It's more of a mix between a Japanese person and a White western person with a little bit of a mouse and an Elf mixed in.

 

Faith from Mirror's Edge had the right idea.

The other thing is that the movement animations are often awful - characters leaning forward at almost a 45 degree angle when running, and an annoying tapping noise when they move, which is nothing like footsteps.

The clothing is usually steam-punk gothic or some sort of cutesy anime crap, especially for females.  Very weird.

Originally posted by Lydon

It just won't work for many games. It could mess up the economy, PvP and many other aspects of the game easily.

Exactly.

Originally posted by cukimunga 

Thats why the solo content would be crafting, just craft until your friends get on or you have a full PUG.  FFXI has had a pretty steady player base and you have to group up any time you want to level up or get to some places.

By this you mean if you aren't grouped, you just do Crafting?  Well, the excitement and exhilaration of that should really cure insomnia!  Anyway, wasn't the  original hideous premise that even Crafting needed groups?

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

I would like a grouping game with ZERO solo content.

For players that like to solo, this game would simply not be for you. There would be no solo content, nothing for you to do. Even crafting would require grouping.

God no, I'd rather stick forks in my legs.  I group with RL friends and family, but never with strangers.  I just think of other players as NPCs with low to semi-decent AI who fill out the scenery.  Most are too stupid to talk to for a couple of minutes, never mind group with.

No.  I loved EQ in its day, but that ship has sailed.  I've never even bothered to try the Vetran's offer they send out to unsubscribed players, not even to log in on my old characters which I know are still there.

Originally posted by googajoob7

remember when a lot of magazines said hellgate london would be the next big thing

Now that's an interesting case...  They had a demo, but , tragically ALL the content in the game itself was essentially there in the demo!  You expect a demo to be a taster of the early levels - but the levels never got any better in the actual game.  You might just as well have played the demo over and over!   

It was a disaster from day one of launch, and as for the incredibly abysmal Guy Fawkes event and its phat lewt of Apples and Oatmeal, the less said the better.  

Originally posted by Reklaw

Yeah GTA4 really sucks... it doesn't have a demo....

Pity we're talking about MMOs and not arcade games.

Originally posted by Reklaw 

I mean if people can't even get the "flavor" from a game with all the info we are presented at with the use of internet, gamestores,  tv, at gamemagazine's....etc....etc

"Flavour" is irrelevant, when it is supplied from people who have a vested interest in making money off the game through sales or even through advertising.  They'll do the same as people who make movie trailers - pack as many exciting and interesting clips as they can into a trailer, slap on a moody soundtrack, and finally add a portentous voice-over from some z-list actor who is trying to make his voice as deep as possible because it sounds "cool".  Articles in the media will be hyped-up waffle from some guy in marketing or finance who has been told that this, that and the other will be they mainstays of the proposed game - but he doesn't know the programmers are months behind and that they know full well said content will be missing at launch.  

How many films have been utter crap, yet looking at the cinema trailer they look absolutely fantastic?

No free demo = the company knows the gameplay is crap, or it's missing lots of pre-publicized content, or it's bugged to hell - or it happens to be all three.  True story.

Originally posted by Theocritus

     I thought RoM was OK for a free game but I just couldn't play it for very long......Overall the game just felt like a "been there done that" experience and that nothing really felt new about it.......

Same for me, too.  I deleted it after playing it for a few hours.  Ok, but... meh.

If a MMO company puts out a demo, I will always try it out.  Always.  Even if I don't like the game, based on playing the demo, I always feel the company was at least confident enough about their product to put out some sort of freebie.  To pick one example, I played the demo of LotR, having sent off for the demo disc, which arrived promptly in the post.  I didn't like the game, but that's just my opinion and tastes.  I respect the company for being so obliging though, and would never criticize the game just because it wasn't to my taste.  Blizzard is much maligned, but the 10-day trial is a good slice of time, plus the 30 days you get if you decide to buy the game is very fair.

I would simply NEVER buy a game if the publisher's didn't have the balls to at least release a demo of the first few levels.  No demo = absolutely no faith in their own product, at least in my opinion.  There is no reason whatsoever for not releasing a demo.  More companies should do what the makers of LotR does, and not make people pay for a pig in a poke when the game is launched.

Giving up an entire site bacause of the bile, and sometimes sheer banality, of the posts in the Darkfall forum seems rather over-dramatic.  Don't read them if you don't want to.  I couldn't care either way about the game - mainly because there's nothing concrete around to base an opinion on - but at least I find the Darkfall forum funny.

OMFG - not.... the... (whimper)...  NDA !    

We're all doomed.

/yawn

Originally posted by Ravanos

yes say take your favorite MMO qualities and add nudity, sex and other adult topics to it.

The community would be overrun by spotty pre-pubescents getting their rocks off about 5 minutes after launch by looking at virtual tits and scantily-clad pixels.

Then it would get worse.

So, no.

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

How can a "mature" gamer play WoW for several years?

Use a chat filter that excludes messages containing words like plz, Chuck, boost, Dirge etc,  It works extremely well! 

Newmeanie's post reflects my first foray into graphical MMORPGS, via Everquest.  I was astounded, and had all the excitement and bafflement he describes.  When I clicked on a character sitting on a bridge, I was amazed to find out it was another player, who cast a spell called "Spirit of the Wolf" on me.  I had not the faintest idea what it did, but thanked them profusely!

I made another character almost straight away, picking one of the "evil" races, a Dark Elf, only to find myself in Neriak, one of the most confusingly constructed towns I have ever seen, in ANY game, heh.  Like Newmeanie, it must have taken me a couple of hours to find my way out, and my heart sank at the thought I'd have to head back into the labyrinth to train.

When my Druid got her first group Teleport spell, I felt I was a gaming god, lol.

Happy days....

Originally posted by RDoffers

Warhammer is good.

Unless to you PVP means ganking people 8 vs 1 who aren't gonna fight back and taking there stuff. Many people do believe that is what PVP is.

Ain't that the truth.

Your posting style is enough to put people off the "game", even if the actual game description didn't.  I'd rather stab my eyes out with a fork than even download the thing.