Originally posted by Forumtalker

OP

To me any game that uses a LFG system means that it is a failed "community" which is expected in this generation of me me me.  Cross server LFG is just an extension of failed individual server communities.

Absolutely right.  Being randomly assigned to a group comprising a random bunch of players who invariably think the exchange of a few acronyms in the chat box (lol, wtf, ok, GJ, omg...) counts as 'socialising' is a definite sign of a lack of REAL community.  It's just a fake community, but that is probably all the Faecesbook_(tm) generation need or are indeed used to.

Tragically, having an automated system for finding groups gives players even LESS need to communicate like intelligent human beings.

Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

Okay so I'm hearing a lot of reports from players saying that they like TOR but they don't want to stay subbed to it, or that they are going to cancel and resub back to the game when they've added more content/fixed issues.

DON'T DO THAT.

Why?  If the game is proving to be mediocre (or maybe worse, who knows?) then that's the fault of the game company and they have to sort it out.  Why should we subsidise EA/Bioware's (or indeed any other company's) mediocrity or make allowances for them?  EA/Bioware KNOW full well what players expect these days and they have had AMPLE time and money to deliver it.

What makes EA/Bioware so special anyway?  If the game fails, so what?  It will say more about EA/Bioware than the players.

Originally posted by toddze

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by Centhan

Originally posted by Dekarx12

lol yeh Hear*

 

And i think your getting at people wingeing about grinds? welcome to MMo forums and alot of those are asain type MMO's but alot of people know that so they dont get much attention?

 

its all about the TOR hate/Love arguments on this forum and thats getting old fast...

 

Next time OP with a more of a Conversation argumement instead of a fustration opener cause I'm still not 100% wtf your on about

I'm sorry, just can't let this one go...

How do you correct someone about their spelling, then go on to make grammatical errors yourself.

And what the hell is wingeing ?!?!  Still trying to figure that one out.

However, don't feel badly, YOU'RE not the only one in this thread (or countless others) who have done it.

I've highlighted a few more of his howlers in yellow.  A particularly funny part is his phrase "with a more of a", which is in dire need of some grammatical adjustment as well.  Using a conjunction to start a sentence is frowned on, but there's no actual rule about it, so I will let that stand uncorrected.  It's a shame forum access can't be restricted to those who can actually spell and write coherently.

Its a forum not an english class. Quite being grammer Nazi's. Not in every case but in some cases, English may not be someones first language.

I'm actually correcting someone who laughed at someone else's spelling when they wrote "Lol yeh Hear*".  To those who think spelling and grammar aren't important in a purely written medium, try being that sloppy in a job application or college thesis and see where it gets you.  Then you can give me fries with my order and/or wash my car windows for loose change at the next set of traffic lights

Life is a competition, and if some people haven't realised that they're already losing.

Originally posted by caremuchless

It is something the Devs promised would be good. Its terrible.

What a non-surprise.

Originally posted by dubyahite

There is something about this game...

The game being?  My crystal ball is away at the cleaners.

Originally posted by Centhan

Originally posted by Dekarx12

lol yeh Hear*

 

And i think your getting at people wingeing about grinds? welcome to MMo forums and alot of those are asain type MMO's but alot of people know that so they dont get much attention?

 

its all about the TOR hate/Love arguments on this forum and thats getting old fast...

 

Next time OP with a more of a Conversation argumement instead of a fustration opener cause I'm still not 100% wtf your on about

I'm sorry, just can't let this one go...

How do you correct someone about their spelling, then go on to make grammatical errors yourself.

And what the hell is wingeing ?!?!  Still trying to figure that one out.

However, don't feel badly, YOU'RE not the only one in this thread (or countless others) who have done it.

I've highlighted a few more of his howlers in yellow.  A particularly funny part is his phrase "with a more of a", which is in dire need of some grammatical adjustment as well.  Using a conjunction to start a sentence is frowned on, but there's no actual rule about it, so I will let that stand uncorrected.  It's a shame forum access can't be restricted to those who can actually spell and write coherently.

Originally posted by MMOExposed

 Why go to a player city, when you can chill out in your Guild Hall or personal virtual house.

this seems to be the main fear developers have against player housing now days, because in game cities would depopulate.

What's the solution to this flaw, in MMORPGs?

Does it need one? What's the big problem having people hang out at a Guild House rather than a city?  It's not like anything exceptional happens in a city, apart from a few vendors, and as far as socialising goes you can socialise just as much in a Guild House as in a City.

The same thing happened in EQ1 when PoK was introduced, and then later the Guild Halls in there. It made no practical difference in the long run.  Standing in PoK was the same as standing in a City - all it did was move the population centre.

How would WE know?  We don't know you, or know what you like.  Just try it, since it's F2P.

It's been talked about before, the last time being maybe October/November.  No-one was really enthused by it at the time,  so the thread sort of sank without trace.

Originally posted by eyelolled

In all fairness though, if a toon is dressed up in full plate, there would be a encumbrance penalty on them too.

Oh lord, not that old chesnut - knights clanking around and unable to get off the ground kind of thing.  Knights in plate could run, jump and even do forward rolls on the ground, even though it weighted 50 or 60lbs, because they TRAINED for it for YEARS and because the armour was designed for ease of movement.  Check out National Beographic's "Medieval Fight Book" documentary.

Nothing will ever make Crafting meaningful to me.  I loathe it in every game I've tried it, because all Crafting does is leech money and time in return for making junk items that aren't even worth vendoring.

None of your options. I vote for large numbers of classes with wide scope and capabilities. 

One could almost say "to the point of being classless".  Almost.  Sort of.

Narrowly-defined classes are unimaginative, uncreative, have unfeasible limitations and only cater for people who have a very small comfort zone.  People I basically hate to game with.

That's hilarious, but how the hell did that even make it through to the game release!!

Originally posted by spades07

As part of it's main gameplay?

I wouldn't say it was a part of main gameplay, but Eve Online has player Corporations declaring war on other player Corporations.

Originally posted by stux

 The fact that it is so taboo that if you post video of what, how to, or where to find them the posts gets deleted and the poster may get banned.

Quite right - report it, don't be stupid and spread it around for everyone to try it!  The idiots that show a video of it are part of the problem, not the solution.

Aion was a wreck, and there's no way I would even bother to play it now.  It's F2P because that reflects its true worth - nothing.

i thought Star Trek Online was a simplistic piece of crap, but Aion was even WORSE, which you can rest assured is really saying something.

Originally posted by pyrofreak

What I enjoy:

 

Logging in, instantly having fun. I don't want to have to wait an hour for a group to get together, I just want to play the game immediately.

Yes, I also can't be arsed having to find someone at the same stage of the quest/mission I'm at, at the time I plan to do it, with the time available to stick around until completion as well as knowing what they're doing.

I see what you're driving at, but even solo games get new content so I didn't mention that aspect.

I also didn't mention Socialising, because for all the social interaction there is in MMOs these days the rest of the population may as well be NPCs or even bots.

I find myself all but praying a new game will be good, since I'm yet to find The One Game I really like. 

The bile vented on new games is mainly due to the lazy-ass way the game companies promise much, then release the same old shit with just a new coat of paint on it.  It's been nearly 15 years and we're STIL getting "kill 10 wolves" quests and still the same old Warrior, Mage, Cleric, Rogue-based archetypes and still games where it's all about Levels.  To try and disguise this, games companies pretend that the game is really all about "End Game" and PvP, and many thousands of players fondly believe this crap.

1)  The thousands of hard-working players who mine, craft and sell things on the Auction House/Market/Bazaar I can't be arsed to mine or craft.  It's almost like employing thousands of little ants to work for me.

2)  The seasonal or otherwise special events.

3)  The antics in Chat that sometimes amuse or otherwise briefly entertain me.

4)  Exploration.

5)  Killing of mobs and/or completion of Quests/Missions that would otherwise need a group.

6)  Individual progression.