Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Waterlily

 

In the 90's you could, in the 90's Europe was one of the more peacefull places to be in.

Ridiculous immigration from North-Africans turned our cities into this:

5000 burned out cars in ONE NIGHT

 

You can stop pretending as if our cities actually look like that, there is not a violent riot going on in all of our cities every night.

Also according to wikipedia, the trend for violent crime in belgium is strongly downward and the murder rate is stable. The source is in french so I can't confirm it, but it is described as "official numbers"

I'm not pretending, everyone with a grasp of reality knows the riots don't happen every night, but they do happen and happen frequently. People also don't use the subway to come back from work anymore. The whole subway system in Brussels was built especially for travelling working people and is completely useless now at night because everyone is too scared to use it, but we still get charged taxes daily after people, usually immigrants, totally trash it every night. I went to school with the bus because the subway was too violent. That would have never happened 20 years ago.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

I remember in the 90's  when I was 12 years old I could walk around Hamburg alone at night without having to worry about getting abducted, while in America at the same time it is so bad that parents couldn't even let their kids wander out at night in SAFE neighborhoods. 

In the 90's you could, in the 90's Europe was one of the more peaceful places to be in.

Ridiculous immigration from North-Africans turned our cities into this:

5000 burned out cars in ONE NIGHT

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Originally posted by Waterlily

You can't just tell by visiting a country. 

I can take you to the tourist places here in Germany or Belgium and show you the markets and the musea.

 

  I not only visited, but I also lived in Germany for almost 4 years close to the border of Switzerland and Austria in the south, so I know what it's like there.

 

You don't, I lived in Switzerland too, close to Germany. That's like living in Beverly Hills, in Zurich every other car is a freaking Porsche.

nm

For the guy who called bull on the article. Riots are quite frequent in Belgium, I know because I live there, especially in city centers:

www.youtube.com/watch

Try throwing rocks at police or setting cars on fire in the US and see how long you walk around freely.

If you're a tourist in Germany / Belgium you don't get to see any of it, city centers have the tourist places which are usually quite sheltered and guarded by undercover police (a good deal of normal looking people in Brussels are undercover cops to guard tourists and shopkeepers from getting shoplifted), then you have the suburbs, which is nothing like them.

Riots usually happen at night when all the "tourists" are asleep, 20 miles away in their 5 star hotel. Or the businessmen who sleep 2 feet from the Airport who rave about how great Europe is but actually never set a foot out of the hotel, the hotel here is like 2 steps from the Airport.

Originally posted by //\\//\\oo

Complete and utter garbage report.

I've frequented Austria and Germany; it isn't half as bad as the US .

You can't just tell by visiting a country. 

I can take you to the tourist places here in Germany or Belgium and show you the markets and the musea.

I can also take you 3 blocks farther where you will most likely get your money stolen, or I could take you on the subway in the middle of the night were you'll prolly get a knife in your back if you don't hand over your wallet.

You can't just "tell" by going on a holiday, tourists never get to see the violent streets and never get confronted with burglers.

The riots in Europe are crazy, people would get immediatly arrested in the US and thrown into jail, here they just throw rocks and fire bombs at the police like they're a joke. I wish police here were a lot harder, a lot, build more jails or throw them out, I don't care.

What you said about the crime being taken much more serious here. Wrong. Our jails are full and they're still building new ones, so police is rather lax on crime. If you're smart you try to avoid crime in Europe as a citizen, because police does squat here.

I don't see why anyone would.

MMO isn't some ambiguous term which can be misunderstood, it just means massive world of concurrent online players. I never understood the need to argue semantics, although I don't consider Guild Wars, Diablo, The Agency, APB to be MMO, they're clearly not.

Originally posted by Setsunakai

The Combat in this game is refreshing and challenging

You're kidding me right.

funny

Originally posted by gnomexxx

 

If only these stats showed how many foreigners and immigrants are committing these crimes.

Europe wasn't violent 20 years ago. Now taking the subway after 8pm can get you killed.

Originally posted by mutombo55

Its NOT 100 per server. Its something like 100 per "City" Instance, or some such. I haven't read any clear explanations on how the instancing works yet.

All the more reason to refrain from calling it an MMO for now. If the server isn't based on a persistent world but just dumps players into open instances, it's not an MMO.

Imo, they should just remove it from the list until they can show us why this should be worthy of the MMO tag. It's a nice marketing trick, but I haven't seen any resemblance to MMO in the slightest.

If there's only going to be a hundred players for each server, it's not an MMO, sorry.

I'm not going to start calling every FPS with 60 player matches MMO either.

Xfire seems to be quite accurate for now. Of course it's easy for developers to mess with those numbers, so they won't stay accurate.

It's rather strange. If you look Chronicles up on Xfire, it's #398, that's not that bad imo. Certainly better than many other online games.

To go bankrupt so fast after a launch is .. weird. I wouldn't be surprised if some go running off with a nice sum of money.

That's the thing with MMO, you don't own them..once the server goes down the game becomes useless, unlike a normal game. Good to be somewhat careful before you spend a lot of money on a game.

Originally posted by Synthetick

I tried looking around on the site, didn't find anything regarding Spellborn.

 

curatoren.nl/fo/verslag_faillprofiel.php

I can read the site, but the site doesn't give any info (unless you pay), but the court and date of the bankruptcy are there.

Rechtbank	Rechtbank 's-Gravenhage
Datum uitspraak	23-06-2009

"Rechtbank" meaning court and "Datum uitspraak" meaning date of the ruling.

I love Landstalker's music.

www.youtube.com/watch

*cough* www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/241633/China-bans-Gold-Farming-Srsly.html

I agree though, China seems to be doing more than the EU and NA do combined. First their policy which blocks underaged teens from playing MMO for longer than a few hours a day and now they made a rather bold decision on virtual goods. GG.

Been posted a lot of times. 

The search function on the site is broken, type in "Blade" and it won't find any threads, not even this one, it never comes up with anything when I try to search.

Mark Jacobs, DAoC,.....kicked out by EA

Richard Garriott, Ultima Online, ....Tabula Rasa failure

Brad McQuaid, Everquest.....Vanguard failure

I just thought it's a rather peculiar pattern.

Originally posted by Dewm

Anyways, so just for the sake of it I searched "Good bye WoW" and the comments where vastly diffrent, most of them had bad laungage in em, or where telling the author to STFU...stuff like that.

lol

In general the community in WoW isn't knit together, it's possible to be a douchebag in WoW and still find groups and a guild. In tighter communities where you rely on others this isn't the case.

I don't think people are friendlier when the game starts, but the game enforces respect and good behavior and rewards it. People who are jerks in MMO like EQ and FFXI don't progress very well and either wise up or leave. After a while the community benefits.

My main reason for disliking WoW isn't the game itself, it's the community. Everything happens in vent / teamspeak and is confined to small autonomous groups, there's no community in WoW because there's no reason to have one.