There's something called a difference of opinion. That's why you don't make purchases based off of what someone else believes. I think it's a great game, but not everyone will. I don't know where you're coming from when you titled this thread, but there are a ton of people who enjoy it and I'm sorry you don't feel the same. Next time just be more aware, and don't follow what others say =)

Originally posted by pags411

It's interesting that some people have come to such a different conclusion than I after reviewing the same information.  I'm curious to hear the reasoning behind some of these opinions (I read through most of these posts but couldn't find any reasoning). 

 

Could someone elaborate on why this game will be play to win?  It seems like all information available to us right now suggests that there's nothing you can buy that will provide a tangible advantage to player combat. 

 

I'd also be interested in hearing why some people have concluded that the combat will be overly simplistic?  I doubt I've read everything on the internet about this game (I'm avoiding it in order to not build the game up in my head).  However, the things I have read suggest precisely the opposite.  All classes are capable of and expected to performing roles of damage, support and control in fights.  Combat will heavily stress coordination and movement/awareness.  I know someone who has been playing beta for a while and he claims that the combat feels like playing an action game in some ways.  Everyone certainly has different preferences in games, but it seems to me that this is a sharp departure from what I consider to be simplistic and boring combat familiar in many MMOs today (TOR, WoW, Rift, EQ, etc). 

 

The "zerg fest" also seems strange.  This is going to be a world pvp game, and that would suggest that there will be large pushes of players trying to overwhelm opponents.  However, my experience with DAoC (3 faction game) demonstrated that balance is much easier to achieve when you have 3 factions as opposed to 2.  There will always be situations where players are outnumbered, but it seems like an overreaction to suggest that the game is simply going to come down to zergs.  I am pretty sure I read that the world pvp zone is capped anyways. 

 

The OP said that they won't play the game until the hype is crushed.  I don't see why that would matter.  If you are interested in the game and you want to play it then play it.  These people who are speaking out against the game simply because others are excited for it should reflect on their attitudes.  I'm sure they'd soon realize that being against a game because others are all for it is just as silly as those who are hyping it.  It also should be pointed out in this discussion that ArenaNet doesn't seem to be hyping their own product.  All I've seen from AreaNet has been screenshots, videos, and developer dialogues regarding game designs.  If other people are taking that information and exagerrating it's fun factor, it shouldn't deter anyone else from finding the game interesting or uninteresting.  Make your own decisions.  If you state your position on this game with some reference to the level of excitment others have towards it, you're not deciding for yourself.

The main argument.... hell, only real argument that I see is that selling gems for gold equates to a monetary advantage. The counter-argument to this is that gold is only one form of currency, and by itself is really not so incredibly valuable. Pay2Win in my eyes means that you buy things through the cash shop that are unavailable to you otherwise or would take a very substantial amount of time in-game to acquire. The game is not pay2win, don't listen to the idiots.

Damn, that guy really likes using the words "complexity" and "simplistic".

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by caremuchless

Originally posted by Monorojo

I'm sorry but I have been tricked by this level of hype before and I will not be tricked again. With the (arguably) pay to win model, the incredibly simplistic combat, the unbalanced zerg fest that is WvWvW, etc....I just do not see what the fanatics are smoking.

 

I have high hopes for Guild Wars 2 but will not be playing until the unrealistic hype is crushed and the game is brought back down to earth.

1 It's not pay to win.

2 There is no unrealisitc hype.

3 Stop drinking the hatorade.

 

He is not hating, he's trying to bring reality, and hoping no one gets blinded by hype. Only for those few but not many spreading hype about the game like saying unrealistic things, for example this gane cures cancer, this game is God, m if you don't like GW 2 you shouldn't be alive. He's only targeting those people for whom I'm still looking for as of late. He's not talking about the people who have faith in ANET and who like the game, only those spreading positive lives. He's also not taargeting those who go on crusades against the game and spread negative lies or false facts, in fact he agrees with almost every one who says something negative about the game need it be false or incorrect hell agree. But long as you or anyone believes Guild Wars 2 is a God, cures cancer, and is literally perfect, then the OP isn't talking to you or people with a strong dislike on this game. He means no harm to us, though he hopes many don't really like the game, for reasons well never but do already know. So yea guys stop spreading unrealistic hype but the OP really doesn't care if you spread false info, unrealistic negative bs, and something negative.

You just shouldn't be allowed to own a computer. Seriously, what you've written... just ridiculous. The game cures cancer, yeah... alright. If anyone here is unrealistic, it's you. No one is running around here saying anything of the sort. I shouldn't say no one, I should say the vast majority of players are not as you describe. I can hardly believe I've wasted 3 minutes even addressing your post.

I didn't do anything special. Have ad-blocker, Ghostery, and a hundred others up and running on Firefox. I tried Chrome, but for some reason it wouldn't let me set my birthdate. Stop worrying about what you're doing wrong, because it's an issue on their end. Keep trying and eventually it should work, or just wait it out. It was trying to force my way in for about an hour to no avail, but eventually it worked out. Good luck and good night all. Can't wait until the first test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woo!!!!!!!

Finally worked. I swear I tried registering a new account at least 50 times before it went through, but when it happened it happened smoothly. Walked right on in =)

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Yeah Baby! got in and all updated!

That's amazing, Avery!

Originally posted by Elandir90

 

 

 

can't create the account though... got a 502 when trying it =( 

yeah =|

*Edit* Well, at least we got our keys. I think I'll just wait and make an account later, when things have cooled down a bit.

Literally just got my order through. Just sat there at the check-out screen and eventually the "try again" option went away by itself and it gave me the price. I immediately hit complete purchase and all went well.

HAHA! Serves you right! I told you fools this fail game was fail. It's going to flop before the first month!

I'd like to spend months climbing the ranks and enjoy the time spent doing so, rather than powering through the content to sit and wait on end-game. I don't know why we're stuck with this mentality. The mentality that the game doesn't begin until the end. WoW raiding? All I can think of. I've always thought that MMORPGs should be captivating from lvl 1 on onwards.

The title of this thread reminds me of this

Truer words were never spoken.

Whoops, that's not the right one.

Ah, here we go. I looked forever to find a video of this scene, but couldn't. This will do.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq0nsgXRgt1qjamtho1_500.jpg

We really need to start applying new terms to things.

Heard you guys have keys in here. While I understand where the poster above me is coming from, my expectations are tempered. I'd really just like to get a look at the gameplay.

How to not-so-cleverly disguise a troll post.

I literally just got a warning for this yesterday, so...

Har-dee-har-har.

What exactly have they done to improve the series in ME3? I'm seeing no real additions, but I'm seeing a hell of a lot of subtractions. I don't think it's negative... I would say that while ME2 wasn't nearly as bad as ME3, it still wasn't as good as ME1. If we're going to have a discussion about it, I think you'll see just how obvious it is. Anyway, ball's in your court. I'm not trying to be standoff-ish or anything, but I really do want to know what they've done that's added to the series.

Where are the open worlds to explore? Where are the cities? The Citadel was pure garbage. Literally everything was made smaller. The main storyline quests were all essentially side-quests. Also, I dislike the way that you have to scan everything, and the fact that gear is found in either bundles or conveniently placed pieces scattered across zones. On top of that, whether or not you played the other two and carried over save files seemed to make no real difference at all.

I don't understand how anyone says this is as good as the first, or even the second. The game itself was not bad, but when looking back at the other two you can clearly see that it's overshadowed. 

*edit* Also, I've played it for a good few hours. I haven't beat it yet, but I'm really not that far from it, so don't try to invalidate what I've said just because of play time. Also, there's a difference between sheer negativity and criticism. It's pretty obvious that Bioware kind of phoned in ME3 when compared to the others. I should also note that I played the other two through to completion, including sidequests and all of that good stuff.

Dear lord, you're right. It's a comedic gold mine, I tell you!

lol, is there a "Well, metacritic says..." meme? If not, someone needs to get on that.