Originally posted by Loktofeit
EA games sell like hotcakes, primarily their sports titles.

Yup. Their sports titles make so much more than any other games for them that the company can still be doing massive profits even if all other parts of their games departments were to tank suddenly. 

Op. Torchlight 2 is really enjoyable. For me at least. Very pick up and play. You can come abck to it and put it back down when you need but there's still alot to do at same time. I also reccomend Grimrock. Great game, great moddability.  have you tried mount and blade? It was a breath of fresh air for gaming for me when i first found it. 

Hope you find what you are looking for. 

Originally posted by Crazy_Stick

As we continue the move into a time where the digital distribution of media such as games becomes the preferred means of acquiring the product by the majority of consumers I find STEAM to be my best alternative. I support it in preference to Windows developing Marketplace system and EA’s Origin. It is most certainly a step up from the days of STARFORCE DRM in spite of the problems some people express with the current digital distribution models.

 

I prefer digital to the days when I would go to GameStop or Babbages and pull a box off the shelf only to worry over if the employees had stolen the disks from the box or scratched them to bits while trying to put them back in too.

 

STEAM is typically problem free for me. I would suggest you get help from their technical support or a geeky-gaming friend. :)

Very true. I prefer an online distributer to the older days of physichal media. No more discs getting scratched or lost. 

I agree that the games being put out might not be what some people want but there are a LOT of people out there who do take graphics over substance and keep buying halo and other modern shooters even though its always the same rehashed content. And games like this will keep coming out as long there are mugs willing to buy them for instant gratification. It's just the market gaining more and more mass appeal. 

Good modern games are still coming out. They just aren't being made by big companies. Of course that will change whenever one of these indie titles becomes a runaway success. Then theyll pump out rehashed and simplified versions of those. Nothing new there. It's been going on for decades. 

So I was checking out what kickstarter has on offer. This game caught my eye. Very reminiscent of some of the rpgs I played and loved back in the 90s. Even if they don't reach their goal it seems the game will come albiet taking longer. 

Shameless plug so I can get to play this game sooner.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/879484120/antharion

Originally posted by MMOExposed
If you could travel back in time and tell the Pre-SWTOR-Beta "You" something about SWTOR, what would you tell yourself?

Don't. Just don't.

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by Grunty
I haven't bought a console since the NES. I have no intention of ever buying a console. I might rethink that if Microsoft really does try to make it's current open operating system into a closed one like Apple's.

While it'd be nice to go 'To hell with it, boycotting gaming until they release for pc!" i am still above all a gamer, and i have to go where the games go. works the same with money, drugs, whatever.

I cant imagine how many great games youve missed because of not wanting a console...

I haven't owned a console since the sega mega drive/genesis. I refuse to buy a modern console till they improve the hardware they use/make them more reliable. No amount of exclusive games releases has made me consider otherwise. The failure rate of consoles can be a right joke. 

Originally posted by FL-MiniMe

Instead of tossing out speculation, go look at the "Time Capsule" section to see what kind of attention to history and lore is going into the project. Have a look at a running conversation with one of the UI designers on the forums (though admitedly, with so many questions it takes a little time to find his responses, but they aren't one-liner replies, they're lengthy and give insight into how things are being designed, right now). Then to fill things out a little more, finish off with the FAQ and Ship Development Doc.

As for the MMO facet not being made unless the $5m stretch is reached; that isn't the case.  It says (30 months), as in: if they can raise 5m, they can afford to finish off what is needed within 30 months, instead of taking longer while raising additional revenue along the way and working on it bit by bit.

If this isn't someone's cup of tea, that's fine. I don't really see the point in discounting something before proof of failure, or at least some indication it will suck azz, manifests itself.  It seems a common sentiment just about everywhere I read anything on games.  The thing is, it can become a self fulfilling prophecy, so decent bit of the blame lies with nay-sayers when the majority of game AAA offerings we get on the PC now are console ports, or yet another clone of the same game with a different skin you just logged out of.

Dude is making a PC only game with a stake in the future of the platform, and hopefully shutting the douchebag analysts up in the process, who keep trying to tell me I'll be playing some lame iCrap game on my damned phone or other assorted non PC device. Thanks but no, you can go play Angry Birds all you like, I'll keep my computer with games I can mod, or old-school DOS games that still have better gameplay than most of what I've forgotten on my hard drive over the last few years, or I can have fun upgrading components for something like this game. Hadn't really had much reason to look at buying an Oculus Rift before this, or any form of gesture / motion tracking device, or an adapter for my flight stick and throttle since game ports don't exist anymore. But now it looks like I do, thankfully I'll also have a little time to save up.

/end mini-rant

Good rant. Completely agree with you. 

Early adopter. It's Chris Roberts. If he is willing to put his name behind this and the past titles hes brought us I have full faith in this becoming a great game. 

To be honest I was even surprised it was on this site. Though I'm looking forward to the chance for players to run their own servers with custom content and modding. This is what made Freelancer have such a lasting community. 

Originally posted by ShakyMo
The dev himself has said its not a mmo.

Players can host their own servers and invite 99 others to join them, they can also run mods on the server, the devs themselves are not hosting servers.

Basicly the same setup as minecraft, its a multiplayer game, but its not a mmo.

Exactly. The ability to let players host private servers is part of why freelancer is so popular still all these years on. Giving them and modders to create their own worlds and settings. Much more creative than themepark traditional MMOs of the last decade.

Originally posted by gordiflu
We ll have to wait a few years. Meanwhile, there are still many 24/7 active Freelancer servers.

Yes freelancer has some of the most dedicated communities i have seen in games that allow public server hosting. Custom content and ships, Roleplay elements as well as various rulesets to cater to different gameplay styles. Worth checking .

Originally posted by zevni78
This project is as close to a sure thing as you can get, this is Chris Roberts, anyone thinking scam in connection with him clearly didnt play any of his games during the 90s, all of which are among the greatest PC games of all time. Wing Commander, Priveteer, Freelancer, these are legends, and all he is doing here is combining them all with mmo elements, in his usual cutting edge production style. Roberts minus the publisher bull that screwed up his later pojects, this will be epic.

Indeed. His reputation speaks for itself. Having full creative pull over this project as a developer means we are in for something amazing in 2014. Well said.

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Originally posted by saurus123

so i think its time to remove it from mmorpg.com?

 

 

Together with World of Tanks, League of Legends, DOTA, Day Z, etc.

Uhh...how is DayZ not an MMO? If Dayz isn't an MMO then neither is WoW, SWToR, TSW, or LotRO.

Are you thinking of WarZ?

 

DayZ is not WarZ. DayZ only allows what like 40 players or something per any open but privately hosted server (can't remember exactly).

And 40 players running together in a perpetual virtual world is more players than you get in any given zone in Age of Conan, or get in any dungeon in LotRO, or SWTOR,  and heavily instanced games like that, yet they're still called MMOs.

And you can get up to 100 people per server.

Let me guess. You think CounterStrike and Call of Duty are mmos also.

 They do not have a persistent world. So ofcourse they are not MMO's.

Now, if they would greate large public servers, with a persistent world with large battlezones where people can conquerer terrain and hold it (aka Planetside), then they would enter the MMO domain.

I think they will go this route. This is the same guy who helped make freelancer a reality. Put the server hosting in the hands of the players. There are still persistant world servers from freelancer working today with healthy player populations. 

I give kickstarter projects major consideration before I contribute. If the developers impress me with what they have already and seem to have a firm grasp on things I consider it. If all they have is a wing and a prayer and not even started the work on it then no thanks. I can wait till if/when it releases.

As it stands i think it is a great vehicle for small indie developers/groups to source funding in a meaningful way. Just as it is a good way for big names in developing to make the games they always wanted to without worry of a publisher ruining the vision. Thats why I backed wasteland 2. I know of Fargo's work very well so anything with his input is a win by me. I also backed obsidians new rpg and 1-2 other titles that show great promise on indiegogo. But in the end you have to make the judgement call for yourself if its worth it for you. I would never back an MMO kickstarter. Too much risk.

I would just reccomend you only back someone if they have some gameplay footage at least and something more than concept art. 

Originally posted by smiley123
It doesn't claim the game as a mmo? They even said the main game is single player, with co-op wingmen. I could be wrong.

Think more like freelancer. Single player with multiplayer servers you can join I believe is what they are aiming for.  Which would be great if it does allow modding as well. Players could build servers the way they want them. 

Originally posted by bigcheeseuk
I'm a great fan of kickstarter (cut out the corporations) , they got my $25!

Same. Good to see Obsidian getting back to their old school rpg roots.