Would anyone else have any 21 day trials? I've been looking forward to giving the game a try and would really appreciate a trial before I buy it.

If anyone does, could you please PM me? Thanks!

Originally posted by Pugla

I keep asking those same questions of the CME fans and employees who come here. I never get a straight answer. While one fan may come here and pretend to understand the truth, he'll then turn around and go badmouth us over on the official forums. The rest of the fans just say, Nuh uh, hater!" And the employees say stupid shit like, "I chose to participate in the scam because this was my one chance to make a video game." In fact, my indictment of that stupid statement (and Agricola's) is what made Shane so annoyed that he finally posted here to begin with.

So, I welcome a logical discuss of the moral issues associated with this game if anyone cares to participate.

I stopped commenting on here a LONG time ago because I was sick of all the FanOri coming over here spouting all their "facts". Pugla, your comment pretty much sums up the whole situation.

Supremeaaron and Kadael (others have as well, but they have all faded away as no progress ever gets made on the game front) both come over here and all they basically say over and over is, "I know that the whole company is involved in scam after scam and has a truckload of lawsuits, but I don't care and will continue to support them as long as my game gets made."

Drives me insane how anyone with any morals can support a company like that just so they can get a half-assed game version of the Stargate universe. I'm sorry but in my mind, the Stargate IP deserves much, much more than what they'll get from CME at this point.

Originally posted by ktanner3

Originally posted by Prankster

Seriously only the super nerds give a shit how the Romulans look. It's the only drwaback i can see to making a startrek game is that if say theres one extra window on the s-class whatever some guy (similar to the OP) with his official one size fits all ST jumpsuit with the matching glue on ear tips  is going to start pounding his keyboard until he trolls himself into warp speed.

 

Trekkies do carry the biggest nitpicks. I've never seen a cult of fans quite like them. They've been griping about every series or movie for as long as I can remember.YOu can never please them so it's pointless even trying.

I've never understood all the nitpicks. I've been a Trek fan for as long as I can remember and I've always just enjoyed the series for what they are, entertainment. All the people that sit around trying to find the one wrong thing with e certain episode just ruin the whole experience of Star Trek for themselves and sometimes others. I love Trek, but I don't think I 've ever been that extreme that I'm debating how many windows are supposed to be on a certain class of vessel or the exact warp speed of a certain type of engine.

I'm encountering the same issue. The game downloaded perfectly  but when I go to launch the game, the splash screen comes up and immediately I get a "GameGaurd Error 114".

I had the same issue when I tried to play Spellborn and I'n not sure how to correct it.

Originally posted by LordFI

   Hmmmm, why didn't Agricola announce that?!?  So quick to jump on the bad news but never willing to talk about the good.  Why do some people want others to fail so badly?  I realize that the counter being removed means nothing (I have not idea if they are current on their payroll), I'm just pointing out how badly this dude wants SGW to fail (or at least how much he likes drama).

Its funny, if you had actually read any of Agricola's posts, you would have known he never wanted SGW to fail. I'm not sure how anyone can think this game is in a good state seeing employees not being paid, pyramid schemes, outright lies about the state of the game(anyone who's seen beta footage knows it was more like alpha, if that), and all the other bs that CME has drug Stargate through.

Oh and just FYI, that statement  "I'm done here"  could also be taken as the employee who had the website up, quit CME. See what I did there.

Originally posted by ariccaron

This is the part that worries me. MGM just not caring enough about having a software title for SG and just leaving the lisence with CME/firesky. CME/firesky/handcranked/whatever can't put out titles. They are a company that makes moeny by collecting investors, NOT delivering products. We can argue about what companies we'd like the lisence to go to, but the fact is ANY other company that has a title thats made it to release would be better than where we are now.

The lights may still be on, but no one is home.

Cryptic/NCsoft/EA/SOE/Bioware/Bethesda would ALL be better at this point. They are actual proven software companies.

I totally agree with you. Honestly, any of these companies would be better than what the Stargate license is getting right now.

MGM isn't going to take the lack of product for too much longer I don't think.

Oops, double post.

Originally posted by Tylantia

Time will tell. I -do- believe it'll arrive; when I don't know, in what capacity I don't know.

Constantly having people 'rag' on about any downfall (or whatever they see fit) no matter how trivial is just pathetic; if you don't have an interest in the game, then leave the forum to people who actually DO. People who would like to discuss it, debate over it : -not- constantly whine over it.

Old saying works here I guess : "don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all" ;)

I don't think it has anything to do with ragging on the "downfall" of the game and it has nothing to do with not having an interest in the game. I have a great interest in the game. The problem is all of these bad choices, scams and all the other moronic things the company has done over the past years to get to the place they are at now.

Honestly, I saw the state of the game with the "beta" testing they did. One of my friends showed me the horrible alpha state the game was actually in. Personally all this horrible management, scamming the investors, and now this "new" game company, I hope MGM pulls the license and gives it to someone that deserves it. Cryptic Studios is one off the top of my head that know what they're doing and don't pull the bs CME has.

Originally posted by smokeybha

Don't get my wrong I like/liked City of Heroes (was a Cryptic game), But Cryptic has to be one of the slowest companies I've ever seen. It's been close to what 4/5 years since CoH was released and they just now launched update 14?

I'm not quite sure what your definition of slow is, but that is almost 3 Issues released per year. And most of them tend to be fairly big issues, not minor fixes or a couple new pieces of content. Not to mention the bug fixes, events and other things sprinkled in throughout the year. Add to that, the fact that in CoH/CoV you don't pay for the expansions like in WoW.

More on topic, with Cryptics new engine they look to be able to reduce development time significantly and seeing as how they've only really had the STO license for over a year, they look like they're moving along nicely. I'm also not sure how something can be "pushed back" when there has been no official release date stated by the company in the first place. Until the time that Cryptic officially announces a date, any dates stated by other sources are pure conjecture.

Haha, wow they're actually using Frankie Muniz as the logo for MMOGULS?! I hadn't seen that before.

I definitely agree that someone needs to help Frankie realize whats actually going on with this whole pyramid scheme and how Gary Whiting is basically stealing money from investors, for a product that may never get released.

For all of the investors in this little pyramid scam, I agree, no pity. They should have done some research first. I mean seriously, did people actually pay for this crap? Like I said originally, I feel sorry for the devs that put all that effort into the game just to have this happen, but now MGM needs to step in and take back the license before it is tarnished anymore.

Last but not least, for the peope that keep claiming, oh give them time they're still working on it! Well news flash, the first round of beta was over almost 5 months ago and they weren't anywhere near a finished product at that time.

Sigh. I was so excited when I first heard about this game. Followed the game progress on their forums and dev interaction steadily decreased until finally it stopped completely. Now all of these controversies, the MMOGULS scam, the lawsuits. I feel bad for the dev team that got caught up in all of this.

Honestly I wish that they would just have the license taken away from them. Give it to Cryptic Studios or some other game studio that will do the Stargate universe justice without all the bs and scamming customers going on.

Aside from Hagon being correct about it being fluff, someone please correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't "Jump to Lightspeed" an EXPANSION? As in, not in the game at Launch?

Personally I'm glad Cryptic is spending more time on the important parts of the game, and bringing ship interiors later.

Originally posted by John.A.Zoid

Why can't we walk around inside the ships with friends like in SWG? I mean freaking thats all I see whenever I see Star Trek is the inside of the ships and they can't be piloted by one person........

Doesn't sound very Star Trek to me, sounds like another failure of an mmorpg.

 

 

I'm sorry, have you actually ever seen an episode of Star Trek? Or even looked over the STO website and looked at the details we know already?

For your information, you will be able to walk around the inside of ships and stations at launch. Granted they will only be mission based at launch (instances) but from the sounds of it Cryptic plans on adding the full effect of walking around ships (not instances) after launch. Oh and btw, since when can ships in Star Trek not be piloted by one person? 

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 Originally posted by Fibsdk

I have been pretty adamant about gameplay > graphics in many many posts and countless arguments. However you have singlehanded proven me wrong. The graphics is terrible. I could never play a Commodore VIC 20 graphic based game no matter how stellar the gameplay may be. i take it back..gameplay does NOT own graphics

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Agreed. For the most part, gameplay should be the focus, and if its is good, graphics shouldn't be the end all DOOM if they aren't perfect. But this, this was just horrible. I wouldn't touch that game with a ten foot pole, no matter how "good" its gameplay is.

*Not sure how to double quote on this forum so this will have to do.

Originally posted by BlakeySGV

 

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Originally posted by Shannia
I read the entire thread... bottom line
"A fool and his money are soon parted."
 

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Yes, very good summation there Shannia.

 

I've just finished reading through this thread and I too can't think of a better way to put how I feel about how this whole thing is shaping up. Gary Whiting, mmoguls and all this other bs surrounding SGW is just ridiculous and disheartening. I was so looking forward to this game originally but now I think they just need to pull the plug and give it to a company that deserves the name of Stargate.

Originally posted by BlakeySGV

Sorry, but obviously you posted in haste without thinking. Maybe it would be best if you just do a little learning about what a board of directors is, and how management of any company are controlled by it's board of directors. The hint is in the name. Board of DIRECTORS. i.e. to direct the company.

Am I the only one staring at some of these responses that are desperately trying to find some little crumb of deniability in utter disbelief? This is kind of amazing.

No Blakey, you're not the only one who looks at some of these responses and is amazed at the desperateness. I've been following Stargate Worlds for quite a long time now and ever since this stuff has started to surface I have been utterly dumbfounded at the attitude of some of these posters.

I've actually come to the same conclusions as you and suspect that some of these people are actually involved in this mmoguls scam and don't want to believe they've been taken for a ride. Honestly MGM needs to pull the plug before this thing damages the Stargate name.

Those screenshots look awesome. Very happy to see a shot of a Klingon ship as well. Nice job Cryptic.

Everyone already know that the ship models will be able to be customized, so anyone complaining that they don't like a certain design on a ship needs to realize that these aren't the ONLY way your ship is going to look. Jeeze. And as for complaining about the NX registry being the same as on the other Starfleet ship release, give me a break. They've already stated that you'll be able to choose things like that yourself. I realize the ability to read is a tough one for some people on gaming boards but its amusing how blatantly ignorant some people are when it comes to POSTED facts.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

What about this part? :

"As to the truth behind of CME's affiliation with MMOguls, my sole amateur Internet sleuthing tool WhoIs shows that the domain is registered to an address in the same building (though not the same suite) as the address we have on-file for CME. It's worth noting that the MMOguls site doesn't mention SGW but does cast itself as owned by Cheyenne Mountain Affiliates, LLC."

Same Building??

Thanks for posting an official response though.

Well the link in my previous post is the only official statement there is from CME at this point and I tend to believe it. Until someone else with a little more credibilty can corroborate the story, all TTH is doing is mud slinging.

Originally posted by X-Porter

Wow. I must be reading that wrong. That sounds terrible.

As if Stargate wasn't a crap IP to begin with, if I wanted to play "a Motor Racing Game" or "Super Lucky American Joe Dollar Football Game Go!" I'd stick with Xbox 360.

Nah, I'm reading it wrong obviously, nvm. 

Have you even read anything about the game? Because theres no way you could say that if you've even looked at it for two seconds.

Just to end this right here and now, here is a link to a post by the Community manager at stargateworlds.com

forums.stargateworlds.com/showthread.php

The article at Ten Ton Hammer was completely unresearched and no one at CME was asked to comment before TTH went to press with it. TTH lives up to my low expectations yet again.

Thanks a bunch for the pass giggal! 

The $2.99 to download the game is minor for a chance to try it out.