Where to start... while I was playing game major game breaking points for me were:1)constant lag and bad or unresponsive overall client performance as much as I enjoyed WAR  despite those claims that settings are to high blah blah proven fact is that WAR is just a badly coded engine where they cannot fix even basic issues for over a year now

2)freaking bad path finding and collision/  stuck into almost anything from chains into BS or some rock or fence I had to wait once for whole siege to end to end stucked in a freakin` fence and could not relog due to population limit.

3) patches which destroy more than they fix (WL`s pet who dissapears or just won`t atack target etc.) and claims that it will be fixed in a next patch which again more hurts than in fixes some 

4) sieges of capitols are just unplayable T4 seriously lacks content and even instances were bugged to hell and there is again issue of constant disconects from game even when you enter new zone or entering instance 

5) constant merges you log into game and suddenly there guilds of which you never heard off I have welcomed all new players on Eltharion and karak -norn but just so many were tired of waiting to get theyre classes fixed and much of them just quited till some new miracolous patch don`t fix not all but just those problems that we wait them to fix since launch merges ruined game for many and in those conditions you cannot form or even last in some strong alliance/comunity

6)Mythic fixes problems like this :community goes :"cmmon guys give us a square " and all powerfull mythic goes ok but in the new patch you get triangle in pink .....no one needs it cause we ask for square but you got pink triangle so do somethink usefull with it I have lvld 4 characters on Norn and Eltharion to 40 and even considering of giving it a second chance but when I read these posts I see that nothing has changed even with latest patches.

so is it woth to give this game a second go?

 Tbh ...I even thought to give WAR a second chance I played game since beta and had tons of fun with it but down for me was that after one year they still didn`t fixed end game and same stupid bugs that were there from day 1 thought to resub but is there any point to go back now imbalanced servers and same old lag ? WOW pvp is a joke and I have never saw more simplified and lamer excuse for pvp and ganking than in WOW I honestly cannot understand how can one shot kill be still called a good pvp but people jsut call anything pvp game this days ......

 never loged on it ,never saw any of my friends log onto Xfire so it means nothing for me if you know subs number that is something but statistics of those addons can and are basicly very wrong since they cannot track all people who are in game

 I would go for AOC basicly cause WAR didn`t fixed some issues since beta (server stability .lag ........stucking into absolutly anything) I like the game,lore all but no t4 content expt running for some rnvn one zone after another 2-3 dungeons which are bugged beyind beleief  and list goes on and on......

AOC (playing it right now ):Funcom wrealy and I didn`t mean that I will say that in my life has improved game alot since it release game is more optimized than before small or no lag at all world it self is wrealy nice much solo content and grouping quests/instancing down of AOC for me is that you don`t have sides there are no we are good and they are bad but I`ve spoke to the people and they say that is the way it should be so have either way I like both games will keep my eye on WAR but Aoc is just more apealing  for me right now.

 bah I`m so sad to admit but WAR is almost dead after palying it since beta I msut admit that it is loosing his last breath ,even if WAR survives who will make game a better and improve it no senior developers left in Mythic now I think.....

Was fun while it lasted i met some great people there but new patches didn`t even scratched the surface of problems which weren`t solved since beta so....WAR is dead may it rest in peace 

 First of all i`m not into that who is menagers ,director etc. .....I`m more considered what would product that they got theyres respective names on it bring to me and AOC has dissapointed me very hard.Was reading few topics about how game is good optimised now and how people are all hapy and active nice comunity and on the other hand I thought are we talking about same game that needs a super computer and owr 30Gb of free space to be installed I didnt had anyproblems with it but I know pwople who bought new computers just to play the damn game .
I guess that i`m dissapointed in Aoc more because that game wrealy had potential but with lousy patching etc I didnt saw that game has mowed from point zero some 2 -3 months after release so i quited it guess they can rewrite history but dont wrealy care reputation is build with years and if they screw me with things like AOC I wrealy dont know why should I even bother now....

I`ve read most of the things you guys sayd first of all i`m one of defenders that has actualy defended city against order on Eltharion and I can say few words on that day I`m not talking about them taking Maaw and stuff like that you all know how fortresses are captured but the siege was nice and thrilling, 1-2hrs after start of the siege order jsut dissapeared all those that we could find we hawe slayed on the streets and near theyres breach point and some guild think <Inquisitors> gawe been barricaded them selvs into TOD in IC but owerall that xpirience is fun I agree that end game needs more stuff better loot from players etc. but imho i hawe more fun in this game than in any other MMO I hawe tried till this day there is so many things that you can do to make yours character unique which will fit yours paly style there is no perfect build ( you are a warrior ok you know in WOW you hawe to go arms or else you`ll suck in PVP) your succes in orvr ,sieges and scenarious depends of team play, nicely organized team can do allot more than some randoms and I think that this game is great cause of that, PQ`s are great every Pq turns out to be some sort of event for it self not  to mention that they turn into mini skirmishes if order arrives.There is always someone to fight and imho beter than kill those for 1 item which will drop after 1000 kills and you`ve gained a lvl great every quest in warhammer got nice story and background I`m 36 with chosen currently and i cannot wait to get to 40 game WIll get beter with every patch it has improwed  so i dont see a point why it will go down from next patch there are jsut people that like PVP and dont for those who love it these is agame for you for you that dont well ....there are lot of diferent options.

Oh and one more thing "the people" who created the artwork for this which idea`s  Mythic put into game are maybe the best fantasy artists in a fantasy genre SF and epic ,theyre art has been copied through whole 2 decades through out various games , rip off`s and movies and you tell me that artwork suck

for the poster of this jsut play a game I`m not xpecting that any1 will like this game but graphics arent  that much important if game sux (any1 still remembers AOCover 30 Gb I know people who bought a new PC just  to play a game and what now?),game has it`s purpose and thaz a large scale PVP and that part is wrealy great PQ`s are great for me if you once in a while read anything in a game xpt looking on a map where to kill some1 or do that you`ll find a bunch of people looking for PQ`s and its great that everyone can do them not  to w8 1/2 hr for grp and every quest got few stages every area got several PQ`s +much of usual quests I hawe solved over a 100 quests till my 11th lvl and spend some time reading a TOK which wrealy tracks all you do in beta i played all races and xperiment a while you`ll c that every race got it`s own philosophy and how to achive something artwork is just awesome and now for downsides well for me is that game got several issues with animations and and targeting also chat could be better dunno I just like this game and I wrealy hope that people will play the game more to c the  beauty of the world and loreGW created not just running through regions to get  till final lvl.

All should play waht  they like as for me I just wanted  to xpirience gameplay not  those shity videos (thaz shity for quality) videos on tube I hope that game will be a nice in years to come cause right now I`m hawing a great  time WAAAAAAAAGH!

Originally posted by Protus-AOC

This game seems ok but it still has alot of work to do to even come close to the number of AOC subs or quality. It will probably be better in a few years when it has more time to add content and meaninful PVP. So far the OB has been a disaster and you would think that Mythic would know about MMO's since this is not their first one.

For now I will stay with AOC as it is a much more stable and populated game.

cmmon like AOC got meaningfull pvp and lol AOC is more stable and more populated if it is (which i doubt) it wont be for too long

fkin eu servers are on line and evry one is playing it???????? who are they kidding my friend didnt even got a confirmation mail and although I got it I cannot even log in cause it refuses  ffs

I`m so dissapointed with the way GOA did european beta confirmation mailes although I hawe confirmed my acc and all other I cannot enter the game and latest news are that all servers work and all people are in cmmon who do u kidding

my friend didnt even got confirmation mail ffs so why they lie community it`s beyond me

Imho as much I love and cant  w8 to be released WAR it means that MMO genre it`s comming  to it`s critical mass where it can only ruin itself  like everything out there it camed to it`s climax cause they all saw what few good MMO`s done (had a lots of subsc. etc) every1 want  the piece of that cake and they are just copy /paste no nothing new  god forsake me revolutionary so in this turmoil something got  to stand above the average and point a direction to a new generation of  copy/paste MMO`s, basicly succes  or failure of war will be a major strike to MMO world for good or for worse only time will tell but I wrealy jope it`s gonna set some new standards cause I wrealy like theyres relation with customers  so far.

WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!

Well sayd Mark I`m srry for Funcom but then again it`s theres fault that they hawe lied community as for Blizz I think that they didnt offer anything new in xpansion "more pve orientated"=more grind like they dont got that allready .

Dunno I newer rolled a female chr. although it`s yours money and yours choice will you play a male or female chr .I usaualy create characters as a male bla bla it`s all irrevelant if u are not gonna hawe fun if u play it so we playing MMO`s a fantasy worlds so be whatever u want for yours money.

At least  for me graphics isnt everything ffs whole PC gaming industry turned out  to be just cosmetics no great games that had to offer u some good xpirience old RPG`s I`ve palyed etc. look at  the AOC it got great graphics and what game is so ............that I even dont wanna start that topic again,animations and whole details in beta WAR are on medium I think some1 sayd check Youtube and was correct when u c latest vids people xplaine that in more then few vids I personaly like WAR cause of its lore and I hope for some nice PVP game dont xpect miracles but if U dont like game dont buy it I`m sure that u got more than few MMO`s out there with nice graphics

Meh Funcom had theyre chance I can respect that they try to improve game but I guess it`s too late now dont know any1 that still paly AOC most of them sadly returned to WoW, L2 etc. cause they thought its the best MMO`s got  to offer at least for the time being wont say game is unfinished blah blah we all know that  just Aoc was such bigg dissapointment  that I dont think it will recover ever again

ok can we all let Failcom to rust in peace .... for now they are just another screw ups who tooked my money and after 4 months they didnt  done  a shit ,ffs 400k subscribers cmmon that got  to be a joke I started AOC with 6 friends of mine we all quited  cause game had nothing to offer us dungeons are pointless,buged and list is huge and goes on and on and on so I dont  think that situation is deferent anywhere else we payed some good money for unfinished game I just hope that theyre xample will teach some developers that itz not smart  to cross gaming comunity so f... u FunCom

Dwarf Iron Breaker I like dwarves `cause of theyre lore since giant slayers wont be in a game then I`ll go for Iron breaker and from Destr side Disciple of Khaine or Chosen