Originally posted by haratu

Setting: everything seems fine to me... last thing i want is to be loading new data in one large instance every time it patches.

Take the last dungeon for example, the iron Tower. The setting is great but once again it isn't polished. Check the statues in the last pic at the bottom right here [clicky]. See the white clean statues? They don't fit at all the surroundings, they look too neat for such a place. They should blend in the environment. 
 

Combat: Combo system is designed to slow you down and pout skill in the game... seems fine to me.

Did you ever try DDO, how about console combat system? Even in console games you don't kill mobs faster than in AoC and it's much more reactive.

UI: WoW had a terrible UI, for years I used an addon... I do likewise with AoC, try 'Stonerune' addon.

Just as example please show me the resize UI option or the ability to immediately switch from FPS to third person view for rangers. The UI is the worst part of the game. Sad because they could do real fast quick wins in that starting by supporting Xbox controllers.

Originally posted by greed0104

Originally posted by Deewe

If you'd ask me there should even have been only one force sensitive class, more like BW did in Kotor.

I disagree.

That was more towards a game without forced factions though.

 

Guess nobody took the time to review all negative comments about a Jedi being available as starting class.

Guess nobody knows what a timeline is. The people that actually credit force users as being godlike are those that have a problem with them. While everybody else understands many jedi have fallen to people from different walks of life.

In short, it's your own mentality that's the problem.

You misread me, let me explain. People do understand there won't be Jedi alpha classes and that all characters will be equally powerful heroes.

 

 

Stepping back, the more I look at the big picture the more I have the feeling Lucas Arts if finally getting its polished NGE and the more I think SOE was far from being the culprit in SWG failure.

Half Force Users

Half Blaster Users

What's the problem again? Or does this fall back on your, in my opinion, flawed mentality.

Jedi prejudice is hilarious.

In short: lack of character customization and lack of classes choices.

Let's take jedi as example. With one Jedi class (on each side) only, you could end with much more templates variations than dividing the force sensitive skills in two, or even 4 classes. Diversity is the key here.

Finally, the consequence with story based game and such division of FS classes is you're mainly going to have to choose between a RP style of game play or a set of skills and character accessories from weapons to outfits.

 

I have to give credit to AV for their efforts and try to keep not only the game different than all WoW clones but also adding major features for free that arent even available in others majors MMO.

I would play the game but I really don't like PvP in MMO. Real PvP belongs to FPS in which only skills makes the difference, not gear.

I look forward servers without PvP rules or something along only voluntary PvP ruleset.

That being said, a permadeath server could be fun...

Originally posted by GPrestige

 

What I find good:

• Amazing graphics
• Beautiful music
• Great setting
• The most satisfying combat system I've ever played
• Awesome animations and fatalities
• Assassin is the coolest class I've ever played in any MMO. The look, the style, the animations, the fatalities... all awesome. eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_rhLUUDSbg
• Fun PVP. Free for all can be a pain sometimes but when you team up its a lot of fun

Simply put:  Lack of polising in nearly every aspect of the game

Let's start with graphics, they are inconsistent for the least. For example cloth textures looks like you're watching them with magnifying lenses. Also some of the bright colors used for hats or priest clothes kills the immersion and consistency of the graphical chart. The bloom option makes your eyes bleed. For comparison LotRo has far better graphics and coherent graphical chart.

Setting, some great areas, one of the best I ever seen. Although the inconsistency in the graphical chart kills the immersion. The heavily instanced zones are crippling the game, wonder if they knew they were doing an MMO.

Music, really nice one. Certainly one of the best in the MMO genre.

Combat : the combo system is more or less a delayed password activated skill system. It's 100 feet below what it could have been with a console like combo system. Only good thing are the fatalties... that's gets boring in the long term, even more as you can't do it on bosses. For comparison DDO has a much faster, reactive and challenging system = more fun.

UI, one word: sad .  A AAA game UI so unpolished. Makes you wonder if they ever payed the devs who made it.  From the poor chat features, to the unfinished trade function it's a big miss. Even SWG pre-NGE had a far better UI.

PvP... well I'm biased a apart FPS real and balanced PvP does not exists in video games.

I don't have much experience with crafting I agree, but it felt boring.

I'm not a big fan of consoles and game pads  but the funny thing is I had much more fun playing AoC with my Xbox controller hooked to my computer than with the normal keyoard and mouse. Have FunCom polish the game and revamp the combat system to a console one and port it on XboX it would be a big hit, trust me.

AoC could be a really awesome game although it seems too many major features were left unfinished.

I also was quite surprised by the last two class announcements.

If you'd ask me there should even have been only one force sensitive class, more like BW did in Kotor.

So half of the classes will be using glowing stick. Guess nobody took the time to review all negative comments about a Jedi being available as starting class.

Stepping back, the more I look at the big picture the more I have the feeling Lucas Arts is finally getting its polished NGE and the more I think SOE was far from being the culprit in SWG failure.

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by SignusM

Best game mechanic of all time? Probably the Jedi system in SWG. Destroyed that game.

 

Fixed.

Taking them out and changing the game to suit people like you killed that game........... true story. 250,000 out of 500,000 (or so) subs lost in 4 months. To date, the biggest MMO Exodus in history.

 

 

You must have a foggy memory. Here's what the Jedi mechanic in SWG was. 

You grind for months to get these really really rare drops off these really really rare mobs. These drops then tell you what profession you have to max out. You max out that profession by (guess what) grinding at your skills for another month or so, then you go back to grinding for those rare drops, then they give you the next profession you had to master, another few months of grinding. 

 

Finally, after all this horrible grinding, you get a Jedi, yay! Oh wait... there are literally HUNDREDS of other Jedi now? Oh good, so the game is just BountyHunter vs Jedi online! Great game! Weren't Jedi supposed to be uh.. rare? 

 

Grinding is apart of the MMO genre. Every game has it and that seems to be your issue. The fact that the Jedi took the time to get to that point was pure dedication and they deserved what they got. If that was your goal when you originally started the game, then why were you trying to play Jedi Online? That method made it to where not every SoB could be a Jedi and there really weren't that many. Even if you look into the lore of the SWG time period, Jedi really weren't all that rare and in the time period of KOTOR and before that in SW:TOR , Jedi were extremely common.

It was in no way Bounty Hunter vs Jedi online. If that's what you thought, then you probably should have tried to do something else.

It was in fact 450k players at peak but nobody cares for +- 50k now.

Simply put the jedi system killed all socialization in the game.

There was grind in SWG well before the holocron madness.

But at this point players stopped having fun and worked to master professions.

Huge difference.

 Simply put BOP or how to transform a game into a job.

Let me add my grain of salt ;)

Advertising is very expansive and barely efficient. In MMO it is well know the word of mouth is the best way to get new players. Also in MMO, too often, players switch or stick to a game not for the content or quality but to follow their friends.

As being said by others DF way is not that much different than WoW program, unless you can do what you want with your money...

If adventurine had Blizzard or EA budget you would wonder about such a tactic and the fitness of the game. With a small studio like adventurine, it's a very smart move, they just need to add fluffy rewards as topping and it will be perfect.

The next move would be to add veteran rewards, something along the way it was done in SWG.

As a note I'm playing WoW now , it's a fine game. (I just hate character customization and BOP though)

"The auto-attack now runs in the background so that players' skills will always trigger as soon as they select them"

FUN!

Honestly, we know about 5% of the core mechanics of the game and that would be enough to predict the game will fail?

Not sure...

NASA debunks 2012 apocalypse myths clicly

*sight* we won't have our last day party ;)

Top 1 would be LFG feature.

Honestly I don't like at all the look of tier 10 items, time for blizzard to implement a decent social clothing feature and dyes!

Originally posted by Gidas

This thread is the best thread ever posted on MMORPG.com

Great read and lots of stuff to think about..

 

All I know for sure though, is, I will be out getting so wasted, doing weird stuff, with the all the people I care about, having the day of my life, 'cause, true or not, "the end of the world" is a great excuse to have a blast and do all the stuff you never would do.

 

I might see you around ;)

I propose we organize a big event and be sure to be in the middle of the impact of Nibiru planet or whatever for the best view.

I'll bring my camera (so aliens can have a few souvenirs of the event) and certainly crisps, who's with me?

Only issue so far we need someone to calculate the epicenter of the impact, volunteers?

Originally posted by Munki

Originally posted by Deewe

Originally posted by Laiina

Originally posted by Deewe

A few sources: 

If you still wonders, why First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1?
 

 

Uhm.. actually they are. It was on the news several days ago.

Stop with the stupid fearmongering and unfounded rumors already, it just makes you look .. "uninformed.."

 

• few days ago the story was, they wouldn't be receiving the vaccination because they were HIGH RISK.
• one day later the story was that there was not enough to go around for his girls to get vaccinated.
• one more day later the story is, they DID get vaccinated last week.

Now tell me, who's uninformed?

 

Want some real information: look here and especially watch this video .

 

You.
That stuff your linking is absolute garbage. No citation, no credible sources..

You can double check most of what's being said in the second  video in the New England Journal of Medecine wich is the most well known and respected medical journal in the world, at least among people with some medical knowledge.

For example check these about the virus a-h1n1 virus that disappeared from 1958 to 1977

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/360/25/2667

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/361/3/279

And in the link to the web site, on most entries you can find a link to the original article and sources.

Originally posted by Laiina

Originally posted by Deewe

A few sources: 

If you still wonders, why First Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1?
 

 

Uhm.. actually they are. It was on the news several days ago.

Stop with the stupid fearmongering and unfounded rumors already, it just makes you look .. "uninformed.."

• few days ago the story was, they wouldn't be receiving the vaccination because they were HIGH RISK.
• one day later the story was that there was not enough to go around for his girls to get vaccinated.
• one more day later the story is, they DID get vaccinated last week.

Now tell me, who's uninformed?

Want some real information: look here and especially watch this video .

Good read and balanced point of view. Suggestions?

Originally posted by JestorRodo

 

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Originally posted by Deewe
 

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Originally posted by JestorRodo
 
 

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Originally posted by Deewe

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Originally posted by Cleffy
 
This is completely political.  Its an attempt to deface the Obama Administration because Obama was behind destributing the H1N1 Vaccine.
 
 

 

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Sure as much as I don't live in USA at all, so honestly I don't care about Obama or Bush or whoever...
 

 

 

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Yeah you only Live in the USA online - Long Beach Ca. according to your profile. Hows the weather?
Well , the only thing I know is this . I took my 10 year old to the doctor yesterday with 100.5 fever , cough and other flu like symptoms. They have had no vaccines . This morning he is at 101.7. He has never had the Flu before. IF this is Political and someone has prevent the distribution of the vaccines to make Obama look bad then they now have another problem...me.
 
 

 

 

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I moved since and didn't update my profile, hope it's not a sin ;)
 
Although everyone should read devillscious answer as she's 100% right and honestly anybody with half a brain can see he knows what she's speaking about.
If you read well he's not against vaccines but as most experts he's against mass vaccination. clicky for more information
Also the confirmed cases are in fact 2-20% of what is officially stated clicky 
(edit: more likely you child has a regular flu. which still need to be cured)
If your chlid really has a flu the best you can do to help him is do all what devillscious wrote and certainly not infect him with any vaccine that would only put more stress on his already solicited immune system.
Look, we just want you and your child to be fit. Ask yourself the following question: what would be our interest to have you and million of others persons be sick and spread a virus that we would someday get?
You might think we are misinformed, if so, check the links I provided, use google and crosscheck everything. And if you still don't know follow the money.
Do not react by fear but use your intuition.
And as always when there is a doubt at least a part of it is true.
 

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Ok , My USA bashing MMO Friend. My child really has a Flu...but my point is this that the vaccine was not an available option no matter if I exercised it or not. Since you have previously stated that you don't give a rats ass about the political implication of this Vaccine distribution then your opinion in this matter is moot but please visit us at any time but bring your bank roll and your surgical mask.

 

But I care for people health and yes your child's health too.

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Originally posted by JestorRodo

 

 

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Originally posted by Deewe

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Originally posted by Cleffy
 
This is completely political.  Its an attempt to deface the Obama Administration because Obama was behind destributing the H1N1 Vaccine.

 

 

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Sure as much as I don't live in USA at all, so honestly I don't care about Obama or Bush or whoever...
 

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Yeah you only Live in the USA online - Long Beach Ca. according to your profile. Hows the weather?
Well , the only thing I know is this . I took my 10 year old to the doctor yesterday with 100.5 fever , cough and other flu like symptoms. They have had no vaccines . This morning he is at 101.7. He has never had the Flu before. IF this is Political and someone has prevent the distribution of the vaccines to make Obama look bad then they now have another problem...me.
 
 

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I moved since and didn't update my profile, hope it's not a sin ;)

Although everyone should read devillscious answer as she's 100% right and honestly anybody with half a brain can see he knows what she's speaking about.

If you read well he's not against vaccines but as most experts he's against mass vaccination. clicky for more information

Also the confirmed cases are in fact 2-20% of what is officially stated clicky 
(edit: more likely you child has a regular flu. which still need to be cured)

If your chlid really has a flu the best you can do to help him is do all what devillscious wrote and certainly not infect him with any vaccine that would only put more stress on his already solicited immune system.

Look, we just want you and your child to be fit. Ask yourself the following question: what would be our interest to have you and million of others persons be sick and spread a virus that we would someday get?

You might think we are misinformed, if so, check the links I provided, use google and crosscheck everything. And if you still don't know follow the money.

Do not react by fear but use your intuition.

And as always when there is a doubt at least a part of it is true.

Originally posted by Cleffy

This is completely political.  Its an attempt to deface the Obama Administration because Obama was behind destributing the H1N1 Vaccine.

Sure as much as I don't live in USA at all, so honestly I don't care about Obama or Bush or whoever...

Originally posted by deviliscious

 

What people need to understand about vaccinations and viruses is that it is ultimately up to your immune system, and viral mutation either way.  A virus is simply a set of instructions telling your cells what to do. It is unknown whether or not it is a living thing. Science has not yet come to the point where we can effectively treat viruses.  Even when we attempt to reprogram viruses, they still alter their reprograming because it is in the nature of viruses to adapt. They constantaly mutate and adapt regardless of what we throw at them.

 

Are vaccines in general harmful? NO. Though there are mistakes made and batches recalled, this is not the rule it is the exception.

Vaccines have saved many lives over the years, and are one of our only defenses against viruses at this time.  They are necessary to help prevent the spread of disease, and can save your life if used properly. Though I do strongly disagree with mandatory vaccination.

 

Should everyone be vaccinated? NO. If you have certain conditons, it can be quite harmful to receive vaccinations. If you have already been infected with the virus it is pointless to be vaccinated, and the more a virus is exposed to a vaccine, the increased probability of mutation against the vaccine itself, increasing the probability that the vaccine could be rendered useless in cases where it is greatly needed to be effective( high risk for death).

Can you still catch the virus after vaccination? YES. The vaccination only triggers an immune system response in order to help your body react better to the virus in a weakened state. If your immune system does not respond  properly, you can still get sick from the virus.  The virus can also mutate against the vaccine and you may still come down with the virus as well, Vaccines are curently our only real defense against viruses, so we work with what we have.

For the most part, the influenza vaccine should be taken by those at high risk for  complications or death from getting sick.  I do not reccommned it for the general public in most cases, because this strengthens the  virus and results in more vaccine immune strains of the virus due to it's high mutation rate. Bottom line is your immune system is the best defense you have. Take care of your immune system, it is what keeps you alive!

Having just recovered from H1N1 myself, I have no need for a vaccine. I had the severe secondary infections, but most people have mild or no symptoms.  If you do come down with H1N1, you should make sure you are constantly monitored, as conditions can get severe quickly. Drink plenty of clear fluids, closely monitor fever, and seek medical treatment to ensure you are  properly taking care of yourself. Do NOT just take meds and go to sleep, check fever  at least every 2 hours throughout the nights  if your symptoms are severe to ensure it is not rising rapidly. Alternate Motrin and Tylenol to keep fever down if it rises too fast. It is the secondary infections that are dangerous. The KEY is to treat it aggressively at the first sign of symptoms, do NOT take a wait and see position with H1N1, as that has proven deadly.

If you suspect that you may have H1N1, if you seek medical attention within the first 48 hours of showing symptoms, you can take Tamiflu to help slow the spread of the virus in your body. This is not a Vaccine, nor is it a cure, it just helps slow the spread, and can help you from getting too sick. However, it MUST be taken within the first 48 hours or it is not effective.

Thank you for taking the time to write this.