Originally posted by LynxJSA

Originally posted by Fyendiar

Originally posted by LynxJSA

Originally posted by Fyendiar

After 80 votes, 71% considers namecalling not offensive...it's a sad world we live in.

 

Quite the opposite. It would be a sad world if the majority said they felt butthurt every time some clown on the intarweb called them names because of the character class they picked in a video game.

 

This kind of nonsense is what is wrong in my eyes. Finding namecalling offensive does not mean going emo about it, does not mean feeling hurt because of it, it means seeing things for what they are. The word huntard was created for one simple reason: some hate hunters and wanted a word to insult them with. The very meaning of the word huntard has offensive written all over it. The question is if the word is offensive and the answer is a 100% certain yes, not because people feel hurt when they are called it, but because the person saying it intends to hurt.

But ah well, it seems I am talking to a brick wall of ignorance. The next thing we will see is people saying that it doesn't hurt to be hit in the face simply because we can hit back...

 

I apologize if my stance comes across callous or ignorant. I honestly just don't see getting hit in the face in real life and getting called a 'huntard' in a video game as being on the same level. One is physical and personal, and the other is the lunatic ravings of an anonymous internet geek in a computer game.

I regularly play the 'huntard' class in MMOs, so I am used to being regularly amused by over-sensitive eRagers that have some deep-rooted issue with the fact that I'm playing in 'easy mode' or whatever their gripe that week is with my hunter/ranger/scout/whatever.

 

The hit in the face referance I made was a reaction to people saying it doesn't matter being called names since you can just call them names in return. I was not trying to proof that being hit in the face and namecalling are of the same lvl. Namecalling can be far worse than being hit in the face, but in this example (huntard) the namecalling is ofc much less painfull. :)

Again, what I am saying is not that being called a huntard is the end of the world, but just answering the original question that the word huntard is offensive simply because the meaning of the word is. I'm not saying anything about the amount of offense a word like this portrays nor the effect of it.

The fact that many seem to think there is nothing wrong with namecalling just for the sake of namecalling is what makes it so sad. The complete lack of empathy towards other people on the internet in general is not something we can be proud of.

Originally posted by jason_webb

 

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Originally posted by Fyendiar

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Originally posted by jason_webb

 

It has been known about since dual spec was announced, no big surprise and 1000g is hardly a bank breaker these days, i made that from potion sales alone yesterday, but as with fast flight it isn't a "have to have" thing so if you don't want to pay then you don't have to.

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Actually if I want to give it to all my lvl 70+ characters it would be 9000g while I don't even have the cash for 1 yet. :) I'm not saying I find it too expensive though, it's worth it in my eyes, just that to a lot of players it is a lot of gold.
I know getting money is extremely easy these days, but I also know that I personally find all those moneymaking ways too boring to do (yes I know, my choise, my fault, so I am not complaining). I don't enjoy doing the same old dailies again and again. A few times okay, but it gets boring fast. Same with gathering profs, bores me too much.
But again, I ain't complaining about the price since I know it only feels like a whole lot of gold because I have so many characters I like to give it to and they are all kinda broke. :)

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The thing about that 1000g i made from potions (ok it was more like 960g) was that i didn't have to do anything but buy cheap from AH, find the niche markets and sell high. No gathering, no flying around for hours looking for nodes, just smart trading. Buying cheap healing potions, converting them to injectors and selling them for 2-3x the price or buy some reletively cheap herbs, convert them to popular potions and undercut everyone else by 10-20% to sell fast. If you just watch the markets a little and see where others aren't filling demand you can make a fortune doing it yourself without ever having to leave a city if you don't want to.

I so wish I could say that all you wrote was nonsense so I didn't have to admit the fact that the only reason my characters are poor is because of me being lazy in that department. Sadly I have to admit your comments to be valid.

Originally posted by Slaynn

Originally posted by Raizeen

1000g is nothing you nub if you cant get that then quit instead youl go no where anyways

 

Mmmm... I love the WoW playerbase. 

 

Tastes like chicken.

Don't judge an entire playerbase on a few, some taste like pork!

Originally posted by jason_webb

It has been known about since dual spec was announced, no big surprise and 1000g is hardly a bank breaker these days, i made that from potion sales alone yesterday, but as with fast flight it isn't a "have to have" thing so if you don't want to pay then you don't have to.

Actually if I want to give it to all my lvl 70+ characters it would be 9000g while I don't even have the cash for 1 yet. :) I'm not saying I find it too expensive though, it's worth it in my eyes, just that to a lot of players it is a lot of gold.

I know getting money is extremely easy these days, but I also know that I personally find all those moneymaking ways too boring to do (yes I know, my choise, my fault, so I am not complaining). I don't enjoy doing the same old dailies again and again. A few times okay, but it gets boring fast. Same with gathering profs, bores me too much.

But again, I ain't complaining about the price since I know it only feels like a whole lot of gold because I have so many characters I like to give it to and they are all kinda broke. :)

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Fyendiar

Originally posted by LynxJSA

Originally posted by Fyendiar

After 80 votes, 71% considers namecalling not offensive...it's a sad world we live in.

 

Quite the opposite. It would be a sad world if the majority said they felt butthurt every time some clown on the intarweb called them names because of the character class they picked in a video game.

 

This kind of nonsense is what is wrong in my eyes. Finding namecalling offensive does not mean going emo about it, does not mean feeling hurt because of it, it means seeing things for what they are. The word huntard was created for one simple reason: some hate hunters and wanted a word to insult them with. The very meaning of the word huntard has offensive written all over it. The question is if the word is offensive and the answer is a 100% certain yes, not because people feel hurt when they are called it, but because the person saying it intends to hurt.

But ah well, it seems I am talking to a brick wall of ignorance. The next thing we will see is people saying that it doesn't hurt to be hit in the face simply because we can hit back...

Grow a damn skin. Who gives a shit what some random guy on the internet calls you? If you get this upset from what a stranger says about you, I would hate to see how you deal with anything in the real world. People like you are degrading this society into a mush of crap where no one can say what they want because they feel they need to tip toe around every word out of fear that they may "hurt" someone's feelings. They're just words. Grow up and deal with it.

Read my post again and make sure you read and reread the red text again and again untill you see how stupid your reply was.

Originally posted by LynxJSA

Originally posted by Fyendiar

After 80 votes, 71% considers namecalling not offensive...it's a sad world we live in.

 

Quite the opposite. It would be a sad world if the majority said they felt butthurt every time some clown on the intarweb called them names because of the character class they picked in a video game.

This kind of nonsense is what is wrong in my eyes. Finding namecalling offensive does not mean going emo about it, does not mean feeling hurt because of it, it means seeing things for what they are. The word huntard was created for one simple reason: some hate hunters and wanted a word to insult them with. The very meaning of the word huntard has offensive written all over it. The question is if the word is offensive and the answer is a 100% certain yes, not because people feel hurt when they are called it, but because the person saying it intends to hurt.

But ah well, it seems I am talking to a brick wall of ignorance. The next thing we will see is people saying that it doesn't hurt to be hit in the face simply because we can hit back...

After 80 votes, 71% considers namecalling not offensive...it's a sad world we live in.

Originally posted by csthao

The way I would define "grind" is anything that has to do with leveling up or skilling up your character. So basically thats EVERYTHING that you do. The only way I would see it not being a grind is just role playing, talk to people, have stories to tell, etc etc. Because its not a grind since you're not advancing your character.

Do you mean to say that having fun is a grind when it makes your character stronger as well? I just can't call anything I enjoy a grind because to me the word is a negative.

A grind is always a repetitive task, but not all repetetive tasks are grinds. To me a grind has to have 2 things:

1. You feel like you are doing the same thing over and over again even if it is not really the same thing.

2. You don't like doing it.

What some consider a grind, others consider fun. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

Originally posted by b0rderline99

if anyone gets seriously offended over the term "huntard" or any other thing similar....they really need to rethink their life a bit.

 

i mean honestly......... its just a stupid word, call them an asshole back...

I'm really beginning to wonder how some people think...

When someone calls you something that makes you think it is natural to react with namecalling then you ARE offended.

What do you think "offensive" means? The most basic meaning of the word is "attack". It doesn't say anything about the serieusness of the attack. Taking offense to being called a huntard does not mean you go all emo about it, just that you don't like being called it. Nothing more, but also nothing less.

It's not THE most important thing to me since a game with freakin awesome character customization, yet crap gameplay is still a crap game. However the same for me goes the other way around; awesome gameplay can't save a game if the characters look bad...to me at least.

Originally posted by cukimunga

Originally posted by Abrahmm

People need to grow a damn skin. It's a word, big fricken deal. If you are being called it, you should be more worried about the fact that you suck at playing a hunter than you should be worried about it being "offensive". This "Politically Correct" crap needs to stop, it's ridiculous.

I agree, they are only words, I guess people forgot the saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."   The whole PC thing is out of control,  I remember watching this Family Guy commentary and Seth said you cant even say Retard on Fox.  I grew up using the words, Gay, Fag, Retard, but they were used like hey man quit being stupid kinda way.   Louis CK has a good joke about using those words differently growing up, i wish I could find it.

 

But Huntard is awesome , heh Id rename my Hunter that if I could, thats if it isnt' taken already. heh.

 

PS..  the OP is a Jelly Doughnut.

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."

I always hated this saying since it is total BS, the right words spoken at the right time can scar a person far more than any beating can.

Besides, what you are talking about is insults used in jest and almost nobody feels offended when it is clear it was indeed said in jest. The problem is that it is not always clear how people mean it in mmo's when all you see is the written word and not the tone it is said in. When we talk about the term huntard it goes even further since a lot of people do indeed think that most hunters are retards which is very annoying to all those good hunters out there.

Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghB0IqnCLHI

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It doesnt matter how much you twist and turn it, huntard is by its very meaning a word used to insult bad hunters.

Insults have only one purpose: to offend.

The question is not if the word is offensive since that is a simple fact. The question is: do you mind or not.

Im used to namecalling in mmos, but that does not mean I accept them. When people start insulting me I dont get angry I just ignore them or leave the group and go on having fun without them. I dont let them spoil my fun, but I wont put up with those morons either.

So yes, I find the term offensive.

I don't know if it's the european servers or the game itself, but there are problems in the game still that are to me gamebreaking for a pvp game.

One of the most important things in pvp is knowing where your enemy is and in WAR you simply can't trust what you see on your screen. Too often players are not in the same spot you are shown. Maybe it's the lag other players have, I don't know. My connection is fine, almost no lag in the game, yet can't trust what I see.

Today after yet another series of "the enemy is too far away for my ranged attacks yet kills me with melee attacks" I uninstalled, I gave up.

I want to love the game and for a big part I do, but things like that make the game a POS to play.

Originally posted by Chamberlain

 

This Topic:

The reason there is no major WoW killer on the horizon is because of distribution of the player population. Most people play WoW, but if you subtract wow entirely from the equation you get a relatively balanced market with titles like LOTR near the top in terms of subscribers.

 

Topic Posted 2 hours ago:

For several years now, Blizzard's World of Warcraft has held the #1 spot of best MMORPG. This has created a question, many game developers have sought to answer, yet none have succeeded.

 

It sounds like the same thing to me.

Split hairs if you want.  Has nothing to do with being WoW-Phobic.  Has everything to do with not wanting to see the same thing posted 10 times a day about WoW.

Both posts make good points.  Neither needed to be posted within 2.5 hours of the other one.

 

But then again, I'm not a WoW Fanboy like some others.

 

Ah okay, good points. I take back what I said about wow-phobic. I took your post wrong, my apologies.

Originally posted by Chamberlain

Thank god.  We haven't had a new post about WoW in 2 hours and 28 minutes.

Seriously.

Please stop posting about WoW.
 

I'd say his post was less about WoW and a lot more about every other mmo out there. But then again, I'm not wow-phobic like some others.

With the Item Shop open they can't wipe all characters without losing a whole lot of customers I think. The only way they could do a wipe if that also included a diamond refund and they don't even refund you for bugged stuff from the shop atm.

It's like fastfood vs gourmet restaurants. I'm not talking about the quality here, but about the fact that even though they are both part of the food industry they clearly have a very different market. It's the same with mmo's and sadly a lot of people seem to forget that even though most mmo's don't have WoW's numbers they still can be seen as very successfull.

In my eyes games like Eve Online and Lord of the Rings Online are very successfull, not because of the amount of subscriptions they sell, but because they are generally well liked and respected withing the community for the quality of their games and customer service.

There have been and always will be more people going to fastfood restaurants than gourmet restaurants, but that does not mean gourmet restaurants are "fail".

So yup, I do think many of us have the tendency to say it without thinking clearly first. To me WAR is a complete and utter failure, but only for me personally since I don't enjoy pvping. For some others this was a dream come true and consider it one of the best games ever. :)

People need to keep reminding themselves that their view of things is not by definition the only way to view things.