All Posts by Jerid13

Originally posted by Deivos

-_-

 

Once again you misundetstood, or just didn't care to think.

 

The tome as I described it, you should be able to garner, is one of the main interfaces for the game. That's why the thing is bloody important.

 

Quest helper is a third party mod. WoW can't take credit for that.

 

And yes while WoW allready has a quest log, it was a locked interface that doesn't give you any directions short of what is mentioned in the text, WAR does far more than that right off the bat without any mods.

 

WoW doesn't mark where things are on the map, that's a mod. War does mark where things are on the map, pretty dam clearly I might add too, with the addition that it links you directly to the quest if you click on it, which not even Quest Hepler mod does.

 

I never said either system was really new, I didn't even say that the WAR system was perfect. However, I did say that  it was a more integrated and better overall system that offers the player more. Which is true, and obviously WoW agrees as they're adding the same things

 

The point of my posting was to explain something that you obviously didn't understand. Was my first two posts agressive? No, I took a neutral standpoint. I never argued before about the systems beinf knockoffs of ecahother, but I eplained why some might think it logically. You however took what I said and attacked it as if I had attacked you.

 

I'm going now, but feel free to troll more and try again.

My point is your hailing your Tome as if its SUCH A GREAT THING!!

When Wow + Mods that EVERYONE USES = THE SAME THING ONLY A YEAR AGO!!!

OHEMGEE!!!!

So MY point is that the Tome doesnt' really seem to be a selling point, IMO.

But I guess only your opinion counts...

Originally posted by Deivos

Nice sarcasm. -_-

 

Was there a personal point to yuor making of this thread aside from 'telling people that it's been done before'? Because at this point you really are just acting like an immature twit.

 

The point still remains about the system and what it does, you blatantly ignored the tomes functions as a quest log, lore and creature database, and exploration marks/map locations database to try and define it as something that while associated is obviously in a sense an inferior and almost pointless system.

 

In other words, you just lied to save face.

 

Don't be a troll in your own thread, I explained something logically and all you did was act illogical. I would hope you could offer a rebuttal with at least an equally logical remark, and if you can't then please stop throwing a pointless hissy fit.

Lied?  No

I just think that your Tome is kinda silly, I didn't act illogical you just missed the point.

I love how everyone enjoys personally attacking each other on this forum!

Awesome community!

The tomb doesn't have a function does it?   It just keeps track of things... thats pointless, I want things that get me more things, that have a point to them. I have a brain to remember what I did yesterday.

Ever heard about Quest helper?  GREAT Mod for Wow that does EVERYTHING you listed that the Tomb does!  OHMAHGAWD!

Your right though, the achievement system doesn't have a Quest log, Wow Already had one... 

It doesn't mark where things are on the map, Wow already does that too...

the two things are totally different.

Yours is a rehash of old things, while WoW's is too!  Just different old things!

haha!  Funny!

OH whats your point to responding to my article other than to personally attack it and to have an epeen contenst with everyone else on the forums?

OH right you just wanted to inflate your ego!  Congrats!!!!

Originally posted by bensculpt

My question is what exactly are we supposed to get besides more lvls and a new class?

1.Are they going to repair the economy?    Its broken?   Maybe prices are low now because people are anticipating an expantion, which happened in every game I've played, in DAOC when Trials came out Prices dropped, in FFXI when they released WotG, prices dropped, in UO when they released the 2nd age?  Prices dropped.  All of this BEFORE the expantion, why?  because the gear your buying won't be NEARLY as important in 2 months as it is now.  Which you may complain about progression but hey its the journey that makes the MMO.

2.are they going to rework all the crafting to be useful instead of a complete joke that it is now

Crafting as useless?  You can make T6 equivilent gear with crafting, and it doesn't take you running raids to get the items,  yep getting awesome gear with your craft is CLEARLY worthless.

3. Are they going to provide new content for casuals players who dont raid or hate pvp?

if you hate PvP play on a PvE server, if you don't like Raiding, play Hello kitty online? 

I mean the game is made for raiding... really it is... just like EQ before it and DAOC.  New content for you?  lots of 5 man dungeons, EVERY RAID is now a 10 man AND 25 man mode, so you can just skip joining a big guild and PUG 10 man raids, yes EVERY Raid is 10 and 25 two levels you can easily switch between by right clicking your character and selecting the type you want.

4.Are casual players going to be paying for alot more content they will never see, as in the current norm?

Casual players ALWAYS can do ALL of the content, you could do a raid in 2 hours, I know I do, just  log on for just the raid, find a guild that raids when your free. You could always just join an arena team and PvP all day long if you wanted to, there is an endless amount of things to do, even for someone who only has an hour or two.

 

5. Are we going to see alot more tedious faction grind bs?    If you hate grinding, QUIT MMOs, THEY ALL HAVE IT, the POINT of MMOs IS GRINDING.

MMOers are all people who used to play FF7 and Chrono trigger and max out their characters an insane amount, we're level building fools!

We love the challenge of more grinding, its the essence of our game.

Originally posted by Deivos

Well the Warhammer Tome actually does a ton odf stuff for the player if you haven't played and checked it out, it ties in your explorations marks, quest log, and a few databases including creatures and game lore.

 

Aside from that it has the record keeping for kills, deaths, special items found, special encounters, PvP logs and well as PvE logs. This all ties into the title system as well.

 

That's the short run down at least. So the WAR tome actually is a very functional tool in the game, where as WoW and it's titles are both limited as well as an afterthought. Again it should be noted that if they actually considered their title system to be all that lackluster to begin with they would have done something sooner. it was only after LotRO and WAR came out with their own title systems that were obviously better and in a way much more enjoyable that they have done anything about it. That being the point.

Cool!   That actually does sound fun!

I'd like every MMO to keep track of how many GM calls I've made or how many players I've killed or how many orcs I've slain.

and all that stuff

Just like FFXI does    <---- WARNING THIS LINE IS A SATIRE!!!!  (though true the point was used to make you think.

...

Originally posted by methosk

Originally posted by solevillain

worst thread ever.

what an idiot

Agreed.

The thing the OP doesn't realize, is that every game has these same posters, the "OMG they stole that" posters. And every response to those posters is "Well duh, everything everywhere is pretty much a copy of something else", and then the first posters don't even bother reading the responses, so yea, this is pretty much a stupid thread which will have absolutely 0 impact.

Gratz for stating the obvious OP, and then having me have to restate something that has probably been told to others like you, gg.

LOOK!  I MADE him restate something!  I'm a Wizard!!

Yes I don't realize that... at all..

yet I've played every MMO on the market and I've seen these threads in EVERY forum I visit, sorry if me rehashing something for you makes you go.  "OH EM GEE WHAT A NOOB CUS HES SAYING SOMETHING I ALREADY THOUGHT UP!! LAWL!!"

Hah...

Maybe you shoulda said "Wow I agree with you OP"

rather than saying "Oh cus he said something I've already heard hes a moron"

Perhaps you havn't been reading your own forums, this forum was a direct responce to a post I just saw moments ago about this EXACT topic, I was responding TO THAT.

HMMMMMMM.

yes its old news, and if your saying I shouldn't say it because people won't listen... well thats just their problem for not listening.

And the reason WoW implimented their achievement system is to bring back a way for players to achieve titles without having a mindless Honor grind sytem.

What reason did War have for their Tome?

AGAIN THIS THREAD IS A PARODY OF THE "WOW IS COPYING OFF WAR" Thread!

OH MY GOD DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT A SATIRE / PARODY IS?

Originally posted by Deewe

I read carefully your newsletter and even checked a few links. I’d like to say I won’t come back to WOW even if I had much fun playing it at launch with my family.

Here’s why:

First I’m not (anymore ?) a mindless chicken farming renown or even dungeons in hope someone might give me the right to roll on an item that has 1% chance of dropping.

Every game has grinding, you must be new here, welcome!

Then, when I find/loot/build an item I want to be able to give it to anyone I care for or even sell it. In short screw BOP.

Must not have heard about Bind to Account items?  heh...  OH and you must never have played a game without BoP items like FFXI which had INSANE amounts of inflation EXTREMELY unreliable market.

 

Also I don’t want a game designer choose how I must look if I want to be efficient/accepted in groups or even be able to compete with mobs. As a side note, your barber system was given for free in other games and it is well polished.

I really don't know any game with a "free" barber shop, and considering you have to be high level to use it 12 gold is really NOTHING.  If you really don't like the WoW character models, I understand, its not for you, pity that your deciding your MMO based off graphics and not content.

 

You are still very successful. But for an MMORPG, there are no incentives to interact with others players apart kill stuff. In a way WoW is still a 3D enhanced Diablo, and that is the main reason of his success.
 

No incentive to do anything together besides kill stuff...  hmm... you mean like the dozens of people who hang around in town and fish or chat?  I mean what do you want like Ultima Online style Chess inside the game?  That'd be nice I guess.... but isn't that what Yahoo games is for?

 

With your raid and rewards systems, adding new level is like screwing all efforts players made during countless hours of “grind”.

Screwing players?   HAHAHAHA  Maybe you havn't played MMO's much but there is ALWAYS A journey even at max level you will never and should never be "done"  thats the point of an MMO is the Journey, play a few more MMO's and then comment on how much you "hate" the grind.

In your notes I did not see any enhancement of your crafting system, which I see as another grind fest.

GRINDING AGAIN?!?!  Q.Q  some more man seriously MMO = Grind

Still exploration of new zones and PvP engines looks interesting. I know you would have made them well polished and FUN but the hindrance coming from the other parts are way too heavy.

... heh  yes they are fun and I'm really not sure what you mean?  Do you want them to expand on their world without raising level cap or inventing better items and equiment?  wouldn't THAT be more dull?

When I see how much free content is given in some games I even wonder why I would pay an extra fee for your expansion.

HAHA  You OBVIOUSLY don't play.  They have patched in more content than any game has ever.

From the new Sunwell Isle to new armor to the fact that they are adding in Inscription NOT in the expantion but IN A PATCH BEFORE HAND

Also Google wow patch 3.0 and you'll see that THE GAME IS CHANGING ENTIRELY WITHOUT AN EXPANTION!  

 

I might sound a bit harsh I just have the feeling you are milking the cow. I still have a profound respect towards you, Blizzard, for having proved MMO can be polished. In that you have my eternal reconnaissance.

 

Farewell,
Just another player.
 

When you judge a game you don't play you are always wrong.

Originally posted by solevillain

worst thread ever.

what an idiot

hahahaha...

You sure don't get it, my point is that I've seen dozens of threads on the topic of how WoW is ripping off WAR's Tomb idea with their Achievement idea.

The point of this post was to prove that this idea wasn't stolen from WAR, it was stolen (as previously stated) from the xbox live achievement system.

BAKA!!!

Perhaps you should actually read the posts and know whats going on before you make yourself appear so foolish.

My point is that people need to stop saying "OH EM GEE!!! THAT IS RIPPING OFF _____"

Cus its REDICULOUS to say that.

Almost as rediculous as posting 6 words, why bother posting at all?

Also I notice your post count is 7... so one of them is you posting 6 words to me, about how dumb I am for posting my opinion.

Got two words for ya. 

Quit, Troll.

In responce to everyone saying that WoW is copying off WAR's Tome...

DUH, like we've never seen an achievement system before?

Have none of you guys played a single player consol game in the past oh... 6 years?

Fable anyone?

Grand theft Auto anyone?

in conclusion, EVERY IDEA IS A RIP OFF OF SOMEONE ELSES!

SHAADAP!!!

Originally posted by Xtort

I quit right after (~2 months) TBC so I guess I have a say at this.

Let's see what TBC took away and brought new:

1. TBC killed the already suffering world PvP.

2. TBC killed the already suffering lore. (lol @ Drenai, lol @ trying to balance the factions by giving paladins to Horde and Shaman to Alliance... stupid, stupid, stupid)

3. It did not bring any new class.

4. It brought 1-2 useful new skills to existing classes, and 1-2 new useless/crap skills (lol @ mage invisibility) in total.

5. It brought 1 additional BG to 3 existing ones, no additional BG whatsoever after TBC.

6. It brought Faction Grinding. Yay! The most idiotic implementation/clone (I bet some other crap MMOs went that approach) ever seen! This was the final nail in the coffin for me.

7. Same type of quests, more instanced PvP, nothing new, breaking the "good" things about WoW.

So yeah, TBC was a disaster. Literally everyone in my guild quit the game max 3 months after TBC. But the kids become young adults, they buy the most "popular" MMO when they become 15 years old, so that's how WoW got bigger and bigger.

"Everyone I know quit this game" Didn't realize you were such an athority.

Then you say all the kids grew up and bought their own game.

Well everyone in my guild is an adult, but thats just my guild, I'm sorry you had a horrible experiance playing with children, perhaps you still are one?

I like how you repeat all the well known problems of WoW as if they're brand new ideas.  World PvP failed ZOMG!!??   Thats why they made Lake wintergrasp in the next expantion.

Don't be dumb, yes TBC did "only" add a few class spells and balanced the game.

Your suggesting they should have just kept it unbalanced?  They are making a new BG for this expantion, how many battle grounds do you seriously want?

Faction grinding exsisted before TBC, maybe you didn't actually play then...    or have you never heard of The ardent dawn, the timbermaw, goblin factions, the entire alliance / horde faction, the steamwheel cartel.   ECT and so on and so forth.

It didn't bring a new class,     thats a bad thing?    Why bring in new stuff when the game was admitedly unbalanced.

Funny how someone who quit the game amonth or two after its expantion release feels qualitfied to comment on it when hes experianced a tiny fraction of it.

L A W L

Originally posted by neum

I played the WoW trial once or twice for no more then a few days each time,  I really didnt like it.  I got most of my PvP learning from Eve and some from EQ.  Most of the people I talk to came to WAR from WoW.

Glad you admit you have no real experiance with the WoW community.

And that you judge them based off a tiny fraction too small to even mention.

Kudos!

Also I wanted to point out you can't even get past level 20 in a trial account, which means you had no experiance with WoW PvP at all.  Just pointing that out.

Originally posted by skeaser

Originally posted by nethrill

The only gripe i have against wow is the crude graphics,otherwise it's a very solid overall game.I'm trying to like war and i do like the graphics but the characters movements are choppy,the game itselt is a little confusing and nobody friggin talks.i tried to engage a few people in a few situations and nobody replied back.i hope wotlk will be an upgrade on the graphics of the game and i'll be a happy camper.wow is very intuitve and flows in a very logical way.i definitely think there is more of a learning curve in war.wow still rules...if only it had better grpahics.

 

So you like WoW better because it's easier and don't like WAR because no one chats and it's harder to learn?

I don't see a lot of general chat, but my guild chats away quicker than I can keep up.

WAR has more character customization, both as far as looks and talents. WAR has more options for progression. WAR also puts you right into the thick of things at rank 1, where with WoW you have to work up to the "meat".

Both of us are stating opinions here, however, e-z mode does not make a game better.

Going to disregard the EZ coment seeing as its unfounded and not even relevant to his question.

Graphics and MMOs are not friends.

If you like graphics play a single player game, the point of an MMO is to communicate and facilitate Group activities, what does that better is the question?

Thats for you to decide.

And since when was "harder"  better?

Originally posted by efefia

Originally posted by Obraik

 

LucasArts has mentioned George Lucas' son plays SWG.  I don't think George will be having SWG shutdown :)

 

From the original Verant/LA press release:

"The Star Wars online game will be developed by Verant, distributed and sold at retail by LucasArts, and available for play exclusively online at The Station@sony.com"

As soon as a new Star Wars mmo is ready to be released SWG is toast, or do you think SOE will be willing to rescind exclusive rights?

Exclusive rights to Star Wars Galaxies, but last I checked the new game is not called that, its called KOTOR3 or something similar to that.  The game it says is exclusively for sony will STILL be exclusively for them, the new game is a separate entity.

Originally posted by neum

Is the idiot WoW players that cant RvR.  They should stick to PvE or just be zerg fodder for keep assults.  Please dont fill up the Scenario ques and then  be "OMG we just lost 500 to 20" and there was still 5 min left on the timer. 

I watch healers run to the ballista or what ever those things are,  casters lead the zerg charge and tanks smacking other tanks around.  People complain how their side gets beat so bad but no one wants to defend most of the time.  They just charge head on into the deathmatch and get slaughtered.  While this goes on 1 or 2 enemy go on the flank and take the flag or what ever the goal is.  Its pretty sad.  I really cant wait for WOTLK comes out to baby sit.

 

 

I like how you immediately blame the incompetance of players on your side on "They used to play WoW."

Let me guess, you did too?

EL OH EL.

Rather than saying "Oh Destruction players are foolish children who only like to zerg."

You say "They're all Wow loving children."

Which says to me "I used to play WoW, I was alliance, I got tired of playing with kids so I tried out warhammer and now all I can think about is how horrible my experiance was playing WoW.

Its annoying when people who've played one or two MMO's blame everything on an entire community.

yes, all 10 million players are children

all 10 million of them.

HORRIBLE children.

600,000 Warhammer players are a much smaller slice, maybe you should watch how people percieve YOUR group of players, because when they judge you, there is a much larger slice of a smaller pie.

Do you know how many PvP games have players going "OH MY GOD HEALER WHAT WERE YOU DOING?"

Not just WoW....

Originally posted by Ihmemies

Originally posted by Azrile

In Vanilla, updates were AQ, Nax etc...in BC, the updates were quest lines, dailies and 5 and 10 man content mostly.  In other words, most of the developers time was spent on things that most players had to do.

 

BT? SP? Both 25man raids included in content released after TBC.

 

not to mention Zul'Aman?

Burning Crusade introduced a lot of content, and they patched in a crap ton more content after its offical "release."  Infact there were more dungeons in BC than before it,  Gruul, Mag, TK, Kara, BT, ZA, Hyjal, Sunwell, SSC.

thats more than Molten Core, Nax, BWL, ZG, and AQ.

More = Better, especially when they're better dungeons.

Originally posted by Syyth007

Wow, seems we have more trolling by a few people that obviously never played WAR, yet are commenting on its demise based on... opinion?  Last night, as I scanned the servers as I usually do, there was not one server that was below med-high (as in one side medium, the other high, and it only seemed to be on maybe 2-3 servers, rest were high-high with many full. I'll be sure to take a picture of the server screen to put the trolls' minds to rest).  I was playing around with my DoK alt last night (only rank 7)  and had no problem completing many scenarios, and a few PQS in the DE starting area, which is usually one of the more unpopulated starting areas.

What the origional poster is asking, atleast I think what hes asking, is do you see design flaws in this game that will cause stagnation in the long run.

Just like how I did from Final Fantasy due to its poorly concieved crafting systems and strict party based leveling.

The question is, will their Zone set up and RvR focused leveling be in hot water if a lot of people wind up at max level fast and not many people are re-rollling or leveling slow enough to keep up with the way the game works.

For instance, in FFXI and in WoW and in DAOC after a year a VAST MAJORITY of the player base online at any given time was players at max level.

Will this make warhammer not work as intended if it winds up the same?

Thats the question i believe.

Originally posted by woody1974

The WAR forums have been pretty positive will a small bit of haterz, now comes launch month and the WOW fanbois are here to give us the "Mythic Promised us" speech like they did with Funcom and AOC.

You guys never learn anything, do you? You come to every forum to whine about whats wrong with a game. Go back to WOW and pay blizzard some more money for a dead 4 year old has been game. Pay them for another flopped expansions including the one coming soon. Pay them for unbalanced classes. Pay them for boring PVP and arenas. I can go on and on about what a crap hole game WOW is.

This is the response I will get "If WOW sucks so bad how is it they have 10 million subs" News Flash there aren't 10 million actively playing people, 4 or 5 million of those subs are chinese farming accounts. 1 or 2 million are people who have accounts opened, but havent played in months

So take yourself back to your dead in the water game, no one wants you here. 

WAR is a very polished game and now WOW wants to copy off of their PvP system.

I highlighted your statement that was totally bullsh*t.  Let me just make up my own statistics,  84% of all people who complain are EVIL CHILD EATERS!.

You can't just disregard facts and then make up some exception just because you recently heard of RMTs.

Sorry they've been around as long as MMO's have existed, you can't act like they make up a "large portion" of any game's subscription base.

ALSO those are ACTIVE subs, read the fine print, those are also toons that aren't below level 10.

Don't just invent facts sir, have real ones.

Last I checked a dead in the water game normally doesn't have an ex pack coming out and a swelling player base full of ACTIVE accounts.

(They said when they came out with those numbers it was ACTIVE Accounts in good standing and had a login within the past month, check your facts.)

Also last I checked a "Polished" game normally has all its features in working order?

Originally posted by Smikis

op is one of those persons.. who sets dvd/cdrom/ubs to boot as first.. then puts an dvd/cd/usb in it.. and windows wont boot .. more or less.. unltil you take any of those out..

then they bring theirs pc to shop they bought it from whining and crying it isnt working.. first thing guy working there sees is hdd upsidedown .. lmao. second it wasnt cleaned in 20 years.. third he cleans puts hdd as it should.. it doesnt boot. . and hes like : hmm not working. and im like ( its dvd ) and it was..

 ( you can imagine how moronic was guy who brought pc.. )

true story.. ( im not tech guy. i was just wondering around our tech guys )

 

YOU DO KNOW THAT TECH SPECS HAVE NOTHING TO DO HOW OFFTEN GAME CRASH.. WELL UNLESS YOU PLAY CRYSIS and set of some freakin insane explosion where your gpu just goes to coma..

 

Things you need to do.. Disk cleanup.. then download  http://www.ccleaner.com/ run cleaner. then run  registry analyzis im sure you will find something as 500-99999999999999999 errors there..

then defrag your hdd.. i wont recomend anything. since you wont know what to do with it anyway.. ye.. drivers up to date means not 2006 drivers for yours 6600 wtf ur using by now. its called newest week old beta drivers if you nv