Originally posted by ruonim

how about bounty hunter throwing misile on your face?????? Of course you can live with misile on your face.....

So you're saying you like Missles on your face?

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Shooting a huge ball of fire at someone or encasing them in ice should also one shot them.  As should a huge flame thrower shooting them for half a second.  Or they can run around for a minute slowly burning. Either works!

If ToR has 3 million subbers after the first month or two, it will put a HUGE hole in WoW.  Not only that, but having that number, you will see more friends of those playing joining the game.

"But Swanea! Wait!  11 million - 3 million = You're dumb!".  Well, that's besides the fact.

If WoW loses more then half it's EU/US PAYING 15 dollars a month people, it will take a hugeeeeeeee hit.  All the asian accounts pay totally differently.  So some might play for 10 hours a month and pay what? 60 cents?  So 60 hours is 6.00.  Maybe it's 8 cents an hour.

So they can play for more then many people play in a month of wow, and still pay less.  They need a LOT of hours to catch up to 15 bucks a month.  I'm sure most don't.  But if they play for an hour a month, boom.  Active sub!

Now, I'm not trying to rip on WoW, or China, or the payment.  I'm just showing that losing the 15 bucks a month that people give even when they quit or can't play times 3 million people out of the what, 4.5/5million total EU/US subs?  That's a lot.  Only 45 mil a month or 540 mil a year. Chump change.

I'm not saying TOR will do this at all.  I'm just pointing out basic math that if WoW loses that, it won't kill it (because of china) but it will be without any limbs or head in the US/EU.

Originally posted by wojtekpl

Originally posted by Swanea

I can honestly say, after having spent mannnyyyyyyyy hours playing GW1 and being in the TOR beta.

 

Watching the videos from people at gamerscon of GW2, I could just not get excited.  The PvP looked halfway good, but...it just didn't excite me like GW1 did or tor did.

That's just my personal opinion.  Sorry if it stings.   I watched people do PQs.  That's what the DEs were. PQs that chained to more PQs.  Cool beans.

No probs bro :) I can understand why you might not be interested in GW2. Different people like different things, like i dont like sci-fi and am burned out on WoW so i aint touching wow clone in space either ;)

Thanks bro.  I will still get the game because I enjoyed GW1 so much.  But it just doesn't look like heaven is coming to earth like I get from so many posters on these forums.

The combat has been done before.  The "quests" (Yes, there are quests, just like I mentioned) have been done before.  This isn't some hugeeee new innovation like some try to inform here.  It's improvements on tried and true formula.

I can honestly say, after having spent mannnyyyyyyyy hours playing GW1 and being in the TOR beta.

Watching the videos from people at gamerscon of GW2, I could just not get excited.  The PvP looked halfway good, but...it just didn't excite me like GW1 did or tor did.

That's just my personal opinion.  Sorry if it stings.   I watched people do PQs.  That's what the DEs were. PQs that chained to more PQs.  Cool beans.

And what did those PQs involve?  Killing a certain number of mobs.  Clicking something.  Running somewhere to click an npc.  Just saying.

:P Good to see GW2 people going crazy over the same thing TOR people do over terrible reviewers.

Originally posted by mgilbrtsn

Originally posted by mrshroom89

We would be lucky if 10% of the mmo players in the world have visited this site once.  Hype meter means nothing, 

It doesn't mean anything within the larger population.  However it does mean something within the sampling pool.  Lets take your 10% number as an example.  No, lets make it more strict, say 1% of the MMO community visits the site.  Fine.  That 1% is 100% on the site.  So you can trend that 1% in the greater community and 100% within the sub community.  Within this sub community we see clearly that SWTOR has dropped in hype.  (Before everyone thinks I am negative towards SWTOR, I've already pre-ordered and looking forward to it).  

 

The next question becomes how does this community reflect the larger community,  That question is highly debatable for sure.  I believe that its pretty close to other general MMO sites.  If this is the case than this myticil 1% becomes say 10% (assuming there are 9 other general MMO sites).  That would be 10% of the MMO community with similar views.  

 

Then you would have to figure out how many people each hype voter represents.  No idea, but its greater than 1, I'm sure.  Just as exit polls during an election are able to achieve accurate results with just 5 - 10% of the vote being tabulated, it becomes a pretty good predictor.  Not saying this is the case, because I don't have enough information.

 

lol, kind of a long winded personal analysis.  But I'm analyzing/rambling as I have excess time today.  Like I said in my original post, I don't think its a matter of less hype for the game, but rather reflects new games which are coming online.

 

Its merely watching the trending for fun for me.

So a site with MMO gamers that seem to want a sandbox themepark instead of a themepark means that those sites that don't favor a sandbox themepark would feel the same? Cool!

I don't see how trolling a game with total and complete made up information and trying to spread it isn't worth a warning/temp ban, but calling someone silly for doing it is <.<.

Also, this site proves that the best games/highest rated games are doing the best in the industry. Right?

I did enjoy the GW1 art style no doubt.  I said that many times.

I just hope we don't see the TERRRRRRRRRIBLE resolutions they use on 90% of everything.  The art was great.  But terrain, armor, walls, etc.  All looked hidious.  I know Bioware has used some very low resolution textures in some games, but not on the level of GW1.

I think the art style and graphics look just about the same.  Able to run on most computers.  But improvements to look up to date and better!

I'll play both.  I know, I know.  You say, HOW WILL YOU MAKE TIME.  Well, instead of excluding real life things to play, I'll play one when I have free time, and the next time I have free time, I'll play the other.

CRAZY!!!!

It's still good to see people going crazy to defend GW2 in this thread though.  Get over it.  And get over defending TOR.  Let the trolls troll, and play your game and enjoy it.

I think a few peoples tinfoil hats are on too tight.

I also enjoy throwing out the word dumbing down. Because it makes me feel good! Yay!

No comment on the subject matter though.  Hard for me to say anything.

Originally posted by Deewe

 In reaction to Wow patch 4.3 and the transmogrification system:

Quote=Blizzard "In patch 4.3 you’ll be able to customize the appearance of your weapons and armor like never before."

 

Stephen Reid on Twitter:

Silvara1 Kerry
@Rockjaw Can you clarify if SWTOR will have dressing room & appearance tab options? As haven't found any info regarding these options yet?
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@Silvara1 Both something we want, but possibly not for launch.

 

 

 

Since I know from past posting you dislike TOR and could care less about the forums there...

This information about a possible appearance tab or whatever has been mentioned many times on the forum and they said it's "on the wall of crazy" a number of times for post release.

But thanks for letting us know buddy.  Your extremely late update was needed.

I love pools, Swimming is so much fun.

Originally posted by Zezda

Originally posted by Baikal

 

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Originally posted by Zezda
They won very convincingly last year, what makes you think the decision would have been reversed this year given that GW2 was showing what was probably the most anticipated feature so far and seems to be being recieved very well?

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Just curious why you think they won convincingly last year? You know, as opposed to just "won". It was a landslide vote or something? Where did you find that info?

Not being skeptical, just curious and all.

A few different places here and there.

No insider knowledge or anything but basing it mostly off of what I seen online and seen from friends and other folk I know both online and in rl. I know quite a bit of differing people when it comes to what they know about upcoming games so that's sometimes refreshing to get the chance to see what they think of games on the face of it. Some of my friends keep themselves well up to date and the others only hear little bits and pieces. Some people prefer WoW, some prefer EVE or something like Mass Effect etc. I also considered what I had learned personally while looking into it. (I was a lot more unbias a year ago initially when it came to gw2/tor/whatever since I was in the midst of playing a MMO anyway and hadn't really decided one way or the other for any upcoming titles). These days I don't mind saying that I'm looking forward to GW2 more because I believe it is pushing the genre as a whole forward more so than any other game that seems to be on the radar just now. ArcheAge looks nice as well and I might dabble with that but I'm not entirely convinced of it's longevity yet. I might very well pick up SWTOR as well, it depends on what's happening at the time, but I don't think it will hold my interest for long.

But yeah, from what I seen almost every single person who I talked with who knew similar amounts about both games pretty much agreed that while SWTOR will be quite cool it doesn't quite match up to the attitude and change that is powering GW2. Everyones main concern seemed to be that they might not pull it off and all the feedback we are seeing from the demos seems to be saying that they are doing a grand job of it. Of course I did fill in gaps in things they didn't know or things they had wrong to the best of my knowledge. (We get a lot of quiet spells in my work as well so I usually get time to fire off emails with links to threads on mmorpg and other websites rather than try explain it on my own if I'm struggling to word or phrase things properly. It also lets me do a great deal of research into games I'm looking forward to or currently playing).

I'm by no means saying I'm of course 100% correct and really it should be taken with a grain of salt but I didn't see how TOR could match what GW2 was bringing to the table. If you are talking about popular game then that's a different kettle of fish entirely, but then again 'best' is subjective anyway.. When in doubt I tend to favour what I think will be best in the long term and for me GW2 comes out well ahead in what it is trying to achieve and since the last gamescon I don't think I've seen anything that changes my opinion on that.

 

Sorry for such a long post but now and then people take things the wrong way, I don't want to start trolling and flaming and stuff about the whole GW2/TOR thing that's going on, I'm just calling it as I see it.

And my friends that I know who work in that area and love games heard GW2 only won because it's F2P.

Obviously I am right because I have a better forum name.

That's pretty much the strength of your argument on if GW2 won by a landslide last year.  That was all over this forum, and people just screamed, "Obviously gw2 won by a landslide".  Maybe you just got mixed up!

TOR won by a landslide this year.

I can't see why you wouldn't be able to talk to the other side in "local" chat, where only those right around you could hear.  Keep the big global chat channels they will most likely have to just your faction.

But I do understand where they are coming from.  Then again, if people are THAT displeased or wanting to talk crap, they will just log onto another character to do the crap talking.

I bet once they give a GOD DAMN RELEASE DATE <.< The number will jump quite a bit again.

Originally posted by Elikal

In MY very insignificant opinion, Force Users SHOULD be considerable stronger than anyone else, even so called "elite" Trooper. A trooper, elite or not, is bred in thousands. Only one of 10s of thousands has the ability to use the Force. It has always been the Emphasis of the SW movies that Jedi and Sith rule the Galaxy. Period.

I understand for a MMO you have to bend this rule, because it would be silly to only have Jedi and Sith. Still, I always saw the "real" Star Wars where Force Users are considerably stronger than anyone else. And not so much because of their combat abilities, but because of their insight! Take Palpatine. He only fought with his lightsaber two times. It was his planning, his forseeing things, his power in the Force which got him to rule the Galaxy. In the words of Vader: The power to destroy a planet is insignigficant compared to the power of the Force. Non force users are just pawns in the official SW universe. What we play in SWTOR is more a sort of alternative reality with bent rules and that includes a weakened Force.

 

"The Mandalorians will die a slow death, until all that remains is a code and the shell of a man in the shell of an armour, all to easy slain by a Jedi."

- Kreia

I liked how you showed the picture with jedi getting SLAUGHTERED in the background by...Droids.  Not some super big awesome droid, but stupid, slow, weak droids.  Tons of Jedi Gunned down by those that are lesser then any BH, Smuggler, Agent, or Trooper.

Just found it funny is all :P

As I've said before. It's been done before.  It's just how it's presented and updated.

Meh, looks okay so far. Be better to try it. Where are the damn beta weekends like gw1?

Thread was made two days later then the TOR one.  And it has already passed it.

Gotta love trolls and fanbois!