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Originally posted by TdogSkal

They have showed us tons of screenshots, some video's and Development Journals.

Their videos would translate into a car with a frame , an untested engine , and no tires...

Originally posted by Housam

i mean the hole idea of an mmo is to develop your character..and take your time...with him/her

 

Actually the whole idea of playing games is to have fun...

Originally posted by Zindaihas

No matter how good a game is, I don't know if it's possible to capture that sense of amazement you felt when you entered your first MMO and saw for the first time some of the astounding creatures that populated that world.  Even if the graphics weren't that great, it was still something new and different that took you by surprise.

I've mentioned several times that I started with EQ, which had very advanced graphics when it was released, but are bland by today's standards.  Yet, I'll never forget the first time I saw a hill giant in the Commonlands.  The thing towered above all the players who crossed its path.  Fortunately I saw it from a distance and was well out of its range.  It was pounding on some poor soul didn't even see it coming.  Another time, also in the Commonlands, I had joined a group and none of us except the group leader had seen a griffin in the game before.  The group leader asked us if we wanted to go see one.  Everyone eagerly said "yes".  So he took us over to an area where they spawned and saw one flying over a hill.  I just gasped in awe.

Now that I've become desensitized to those images, it's very difficult to have any other game make you feel that way again.  But I'm not prepared to say that it's impossible.  My brother who was also an EQ veteran said that he was blown away the first time he saw a dragon in WoW.  There's also other areas of the game besides graphics, like new ideas for fighting, that can make future games even more fun.  That's why I haven't given up hope yet that there may still be a future game that is as good or maybe even better than the first.  Even though it won't be the same.

 EQ1 blew compared to AC1 man

Originally posted by TdogSkal

 

 

Does the Car dealership down the road owe you anything because you go around spreading the word about the great new car they have on the lot?

Yes when they specifically ask me to do it

I think there needs to be some kind of quality control as to what gets listed and supported here...  I mean you have games like Atriarch for example that is never going to see the light of day.. What's the point of it being here? It's not like people can discuss a game that they will eventually get to play.....

They could have those type of games "listed". But there shouldn't be any kind of forums or reporting on tem unless they enter a phase of development where it's really clear that they are coming out..

Darkfall has yet to even begin to approach a phase like that after 7 years.

No Diablo could just be World of Warcraft in a Diablo skin / theme / setting.. with more focus on in-depth dungeons and stuff like that...  maybe even an entire "underworld".

Originally posted by Gorilla

MMORPG.com has a set of listing criteria.

Than maybe that should be changed?  Change is always good.

Originally posted by Tarka

No, I'm not talking about diverting away from High Elves and making more steam punk games.  I'm not even referring to not "dumbing things down".  I'm referring to how MMO companies conduct themselves when developing and releasing their products.........read on before you make any judgements on what my post is about:

I've been giving this some thought off and on for some time now.  Because of the nature of the industry, a lot is constantly in flux when developing, releasing and even maintaining an MMO in today's market.

There are now a varierty of big players in the MMO development industry (e.g. SOE, Funcom, Blizzard, Turbine, Codemasters, etc, etc) .  Some are publishers, some are developers, some are both. 

Maybe the time has come for them to agree on certain internationally recognised levels of quality (and I'm not just referring to graphics here) which MMO products should aspire to in order to be awarded an internationally recognised "standard" (e.g. like an ISO standard). 

I'm not talking about something which can be enforced by law, just a standard which MMO companies can brandish both on their products and on their literature when their product achieves a certain level of quality.  

To some degree one could argue that reviews and previews of games achieve that goal.  But such articles are based on the writer's own opinions and not on a preset list of quality checks.  Such a "standard" could assure that the product meets those quality requirements.  Maybe the standard could have varying levels?

Such as:

• Does the product play acceptably well on a certain specifications of machine?  Maybe have varying specifications for varying levels of "standard"?
• Quality in advertising - are the adverts accurate, do they imply too much and not actually deliver?).
• Are the MMO companies partners acting in fair interest of both the public and the MMO development company? Maybe partner companies (e.g. online advertising companies) get their own "standard" and levels of quality to aspire to?

These are just a couple of aspects which could be used to consider if a company's MMO product achieves a certain level of quality.  Whats everyones thoughts on this?

Why would these even matter?  Are you proposing some kind of MMO quality assurance law?  That would never happen.

I'am surprised Blizzard isn't already making this...

1 . WoW

2. SC Online

3. Diablo Online

Package them all up in a one membership package and Blizzard would rule the world forever.

Just wait and see what happens when they release the new EXP pack this year..

SUN has the best armor hands down. No doubt about it.

Originally posted by Scriar

All the secrecy is to build up hype, seems to be doing a good job at it since everyone is wondering what they are making.

Personally I am not bothered to much what it is, I heard the lead designer do a speech on the game ( as in what they wanted to do with an mmo) it honestly sounded like he wanted to make a WoW clone with more emphasis on story lines.

Hopefully I just misinterpreted it but I can't really think of a game Bioware has made that has not been mediocre in the gameplay department but great in the story telling department. So it does sound like the kind of thing the company would do.

I bet you anything it's going to be another medieval fantasy style..  Considering that's really all that Bioware makes..

Originally posted by Zindaihas

No matter how good a game is, I don't know if it's possible to capture that sense of amazement you felt when you entered your first MMO and saw for the first time some of the astounding creatures that populated that world.  Even if the graphics weren't that great, it was still something new and different that took you by surprise.

I've mentioned several times that I started with EQ, which had very advanced graphics when it was released, but are bland by today's standards.  Yet, I'll never forget the first time I saw a hill giant in the Commonlands.  The thing towered above all the players who crossed its path.  Fortunately I saw it from a distance and was well out of its range.  It was pounding on some poor soul didn't even see it coming.  Another time, also in the Commonlands, I had joined a group and none of us except the group leader had seen a griffin in the game before.  The group leader asked us if we wanted to go see one.  Everyone eagerly said "yes".  So he took us over to an area where they spawned and saw one flying over a hill.  I just gasped in awe.

Now that I've become desensitized to those images, it's very difficult to have any other game make you feel that way again.  But I'm not prepared to say that it's impossible.  My brother who was also an EQ veteran said that he was blown away the first time he saw a dragon in WoW.  There's also other areas of the game besides graphics, like new ideas for fighting, that can make future games even more fun.  That's why I haven't given up hope yet that there may still be a future game that is as good or maybe even better than the first.  Even though it won't be the same.

Asheron's Call 1 was my first and nothing compared to it ever since... doubt anything ever will. I played it daily for 3 straight years.

Way too many memories in that game...

Originally posted by Rob_dc84

Ok i have finally have to say this but who cares about which mmo is better war or aoc, honestly people will play what they want and they will love it. UNLESS IT SUCKS that goes for both war and aoc, who knows they might both suck and everyone will go back to wow. i just wish u guys would stop fighting in the forums over. Im guilty for fight for war and bashing aoc but in reality, who cares just the hardcore crazy nerd peeps, so if your going to post in this forum make it nice, if u wanna compare games fine, BUT no bashing, i wont have it i want the games compared on fair even ground thats all. Please people only good post not bashing or troll post or i will get them deleted i want this to be info post not which game is better and why i know sounds odd but for you beta peeps list whats great about your game and whats bad or want u wanna see worked on in your game please and after one week i will take everything in the post and make into a one massive compare agaisnt the 2 games. then i will throw a poll up and settle it once and for all. ok peeps post away and keep it fair and about your game only if possable.

I'll be playing both so wtf?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

I feel that anything that Tasos tells us about Darkfall is great because he owns the community nothing,

You put up public forums , to build a community , and tell people to go out and "spread the word" about your product , than you owe something.

Unless taking and giving nothing in return is all they are good for?

Originally posted by TdogSkal

So you would take time out of your Vacation to wirte a Dev Journal?

No I would do it in advance before I leave.. again complete lack of commen sense.

It seems to be the foundation of what Darkfall Online is built upon. Not only do it's developers show it , but most of it's fanbase has it too... it's like a disease over there or something.

Originally posted by Xris375

 

Originally posted by Theodgrim

 

Originally posted by Xris375

 

Originally posted by 3on1

lol @ the ppl who can only say "go to AoC forum troll"

maybe just prove all the "AoC fanboys" that darkfall isnt vaporware

ow wait,, u cant

um you prove that DF is vaporware

 

ow wait,,u cant

 

Only those claiming they have something tangible are required to prove it. 

Lets take another example.  You tell me you have an invisible airplane.  I dont have to prove the invisible airplane doesnt exist - you are the one that has to convince me it does.  If you cant, or wont, it is reasonable to claim BS. 

 

LOL says who ? Is that like a law of nature ?

It's a law of commen sense. Something that most who still folow DF seem to be heavily lacking.

Originally posted by TdogSkal

Again so you never go on Vacations during Holidays?  You never leave 2 days before a Holiday for a vacation or time off to visit with family?

Ya sure but that wouldn't stop me from writing a 30 minute dev journal.

100% bullshit excuses is all this is like usual.

Don't ypu people GET IT?  They don't give a shit about this project. It's so obvious that it's just staring you in the face.

If they really did than they would hire (or even volunteer) someone to do these VERY simple PR things...

Originally posted by Xris375

 

Originally posted by 3on1

lol @ the ppl who can only say "go to AoC forum troll"

maybe just prove all the "AoC fanboys" that darkfall isnt vaporware

ow wait,, u cant

um you prove that DF is vaporware

 

ow wait,,u cant

But it has been proven over the last 7 years and keeps being proven as the months roll buy

World of Warcraft Open Beta client still works as the original game does from CD's..

In fact many people did not even buy the retail box of WoW.. they just bought the key online and kept playing with the Beta client..