All Posts by Gabrion2

The game will certainly entertain you for a while, but my approach to finding an MMO isn't just a question of whether or not it can entertain me for a while.  I usually want to know if I invest time in it, will I end up thinking it was worthwhile down the road.

If you care about that, I would stay away from this one.  There is enough stuff to keep you busy for a while (and it will be fun along the way) but down the road you will start to see some huge flaws in the game.  It will be a huge turn off when you not only realize the game isnt fun any more, but you've invested time in a game that could have been speant on a game that will always be fun to come back and play.

Originally posted by RDBeast

You cant just announce that people who play sandbox games have phycological problems lol. There are TONES of people who play themepark mmorpg's like WoW all day long the reason why some get hooked is the community and because its an RPG. With any RPG you will get people who take it to another level and get a little bit TOO into it, there is a difference between someone who just really enjoys a game or has an addiction.

I think if anyone has a problem and cant realise that a game is affecting their lives because they are on it too much thats a seperate problem to the game they are playing because in all honesty, people can get to into any RPG sandbox or not.

Sandbox mmorpg's are more immersive to alot of people because they have more freedom than a themepark mmorpg and this can mean people will play the game more like an RPG than a game, and so get into the game more, i agree with you on that little point but that just makes for a better RPG experience. Just because they are getting into the game more and roleplaying a character doesnt specifically mean they cant understand reality form a virtual world on a computer even if they are roleplaying a character, there are people who play sandbox's just like a game world too.

 

In the end, its a game, simple as that... just like any RPG out there but that doesnt mean you shouldnt try and immersive yourself for a better experience.

No you cant just diagnose mental problems based on someone playing a (particular kind of) video game.

That's why the OP is really dumb.

My post on the other had was pointing out the obsurdity of reading into personaly entertainment choices (or certain ones any way) so much that we start diagnosing mental illnesses based on them.  The OP (in that post and several after) really thinks there is a connection between playing theme park MMOs and having psychological problems.

Stupid much?

On the other hand, a good argument could be made that the sand box gamers are the ones who have deep psychological problems.

Those who play linear games recognize a sharp split between what they do in real life and what they look for in entertainment. This is not uncommon whether you are talking about video games or any other form of entertainment (vacations are another good example - one rarely tries to make them reflect the every day reality they live in).

Sand box gamers on the other hand are leaving a sand box real life environment for a sand box online one. Anyone who thinks about that for a minute wont have a problem identifying something being wrong. The fact that these people already have a sand box to play in (an infinitley complex and cool one) and they leave it to play in a fake sand box online would have any shrink filling out paperwork like mad.

oops wrong thread

Originally posted by tumper92

ive have though about trying buy this game.

 

and now ive got some few qustions, that u maybe can answer.

 

does it takes long time to get to the top ( lvls )

and is the community any good ?

 

and overall, is this game good ? and is it worth playing.  i have only seen some few movies on youtube, and its looks pretty cool.. i just wanna here what u guys thinks about it, and maybe you could give me some good reasons to buy the game :)

 

( ps: im from denmark, thats why i dont spel so good :)

As a new player you wont shoot to the top in one week, but it doesn't take nearly as long to level to the top as some popular MMOs.

The community is hands down one of the best you will find when it comes to MMOs (well I've only played like 8 of them, but thus far none really compare to DDO).  Very mature, very helpful, and fun to play with.

Originally posted by TheFranchise

Originally posted by Gabrion2:
"My point is that for people who enjoy WoW enough to play the game for real - that group will find that compared to WoW a game like DDO has very limited features.  If you don't leave WoW because the gameplay itself "isn't for you", but rather because you are bored, then I think there isn't much you will find in DDO."

Just admit it was a dumb DDO bashing comment already and be done with it.

I stopped playing WoW for various reasons. 1) They kept messing with my characters, giving evidence to the theory that they don't know what they are doing in the first place when designing classes and abilities. But the more important reason was 2) that there are limited group quests that have any meaning, and a limited amount of people who like to group who don't require you to be in a hardcore guild. I was bored. Soloing is boring. On my last day, I even ganked lowbies. I never did that before. In DDO, people HAVE to quest with at least one other person, for the most part. Forced grouping is bad? Nah.

Played some LOTRO. Mostly the same thing. People like to solo a lot.

Now, WoW has been reducing or eliminating the requirements for big quests and lowering the amount of people needed. For those who like to do group quests but don't have a second job in a hardcore guild, this may become interesting.

Wow i just couldn't overlook this one.

You think balancing in WoW means the devs don't know what they are doing, but you are here defending DDO?  Just take a moment and thing about the radical changes this game has undergone.  Are you willing to make the argument that DDO developers also don't know what they are doing? (I happen to agree, but I'd just like to hear it from you)

Then you make the argument that a game where you have the choice of running in a group or running solo is somehow naturally inferior to a game that requires you to play in a group.  This just doesn't even make sense to me - it seems pretty natural that a game people pay to play should have options for people who want different things out of the game (or even people who want different things at different times).

No, my comment was just letting the OP know how limiting DDO is compared to the game he came from.   It wasn't random DDO bashing or a scotish fallacy or whatever. 

Ok so you use AoC as an example.  Be specific here...what besides your character stats, gear, and the buttons you push determines the outcome of an action.  Again...be specific. 

Originally posted by AgtSmith

 

Originally posted by Gabrion2

At some point in time the programming has to take over and determine the outcome of an action you take.  This is how video games work.

 

Understandable - but in DDO the 'action' is too often irrelvant.  The program simply decides based on what you where or what you brought with you - not on what you do or don't do in way, way, way too many cases.

Maybe you can give me an example of an MMO that does what you are talking about so that I can better understand. 

At some point in time the programming has to take over and determine the outcome of an action you take.  This is how video games work.

Originally posted by bachanam

It takes a game a while for the players to come to a silent understanding for the most part. Spawn camping will always continue but at a much lower rate. As the game matures into it's full self, whether with fixes, added content, etc. I think so does the player-base. Things start to become common sense, other things get slammed by everybody. A world has a way of working itself out.

Translation: If AoC ever gives the players something better to do with their time, camping wont be such a problem.

First, I dont love this game.  Look at most of the comments I make in this forum about it - if anything people probably think I'm a troll for bashing it so much.

Second, you make no sense.  I don't even understand what you are looking for...building a character with certain skills and enhancements and selecting the proper gear IS doing something as a player when it comes to disabling traps.  What do you want, a little minigame like morrowind lock picking or something? 

God I really don't like this game and yet morons like you actually have me defending it because you can't use your brain.  That's sad.

Ya I wasn't saying soloing was optimal or anything, just that I find myself doing it often and it isn't hard.  And teleport foe is something I tried for the fun of it but dont really use...I was just pointing out that if you really have trouble soloing, it will be recharged for the beginning of each pull, so you can soften things up a little.

I'm brand new to the game and my first character is a controller.  I've soloed so far up to level 30 with difficulty set on invincible.  I don't know if its just the AT and power set combo I used, but the game seems extremely easy to solo. 

If you have a lot of problem with groups of mobs, maybe consider the teleport foe power?

Originally posted by tihokan

 

Well, raids are easy when everyone in the group is experienced with them. If you're not in a heavy raiding guild and frequently group with random people, you're often up for some tougher challenges

 

Loot drops in raids aren't that bad. By running a raid 80 times you have less than 5% chance to not get the one item you're after. Personally I'm often getting most items I'm interested in after 20 runs. Of course there may be some items you'll never get, but that's part of the random luck factor...

I'm not in a guild at all...I pug raids and they are all trivial. The exceptions being the Abbot (which I haven't even entered since 5.1 or whatever) and Harry hard/elite.  This doesn't have anything to do with gear or anything like that either...its the way encounters are designed in DDO.  Once you learn the strategy you can complete most raids with undergeared, low level toons. 

Say what you want, the current raid loot system is awful.  If you had multiple chances at raid loot throughout each raid (like many games) the percentage chances wouldn't be so bad.  No option for lootmaster + abysmal drop rates = terrible system though.  Not saying you're wrong, but how are you calculating that 5% chance?

I feel like I missed the point there somewhere....maybe if you do it again with a little more coddling we will understand better.

This is absolutely hilarious. 

I remember watching a development video that was a major letdown because all they did was prattle on and on about PvP and how awesomesauce it was going to be.  And this is what they come up with?  GMs with second grade level grammar skills threatening bans for spawn camping on a PvP server.

Hilarious.

(And more than a bit gratifying for beta players who knew better than to ride this ship out of port while still full of gaping holes)

Originally posted by AgtSmith

D&D pen and paper is not a computer game - there is no way a player in P&P can apply the kinds of skills and control that one can in a computer game.  Nevertheless, I am not saying dice rolls are in and of themselves bad - to an extent all MMOs use some kind of dice roll to settle certain things.  I am criticizing the extent and commonality of circumstances where the dice role is the sole determinate of an outcome.  In DDO the dice roll (and to an extent gear) is far, far too often the sole (or even vastly dominant) determinant with player action either not mattering or simply being of minor influence to the outcome.

Maybe you didn't play at high levels?

When your attack bonus is +40, your trap skills are +55, your saves are +25 and up, the d20 roll is hardly the determining factor in whether or not you succeed.  In the specific case of traps you're definately wrong - there are common benchmarks trap disablers can achieve so that they never (or very rarely) fail.

Well the obvious problem is that many of the encounters are set up with the idea in mind that players will have many different buffs running.  That combined with the limited resources in a game like DDO make the constant dispelling of beholders just silly.  Not to mention beholders used to be a place for high save melee characters to shine...paladins (which are all to often scorned in favor of other melees) used to be able to run out and kill as many beholders as the game could produce.  Then they had to add enervate, which did nothing to beholder encounters except make them less fun.

Are you guys honestly in favor of the enervate addition to beholders?  I understand if you like the game and all, but when you say things are balanced or appropriate that pretty much eveyone I've grouped with would agree do nothing but make the game annoying, I have to wonder how honest you're being.

Edit: Also keep in mind the dispel vs. supress isn't a coding problem - they already have spells in the game that do supression.

It has several raids that if you run consistently will keep you pretty busy.  One thing about this game that is different from many others is that the older raids in the game still have valuable item drops, so people still run them.  Altogether you can run 5 boss raids each 2x/week (there is another boss raid but few people run it because the developers messed it up pretty bad), and since two of the raids require keying each time to run (4 pre-quests for one and 5 for the other) ya you can keep busy with the endgame raids.

The latest raid also has drops along the way that are used to craft magical items and since the best of these items require many ingredients, folks also run that quest over and over to collect. 

The real problem seems to be that once you get to max level and once you figure out the strategies for each raid, they are all trivial encounters.  This combined with the fact that loot drops are abysmal - you can run the same raid 80 times on a character (yep that's almost a year of raiding) without getting the item you are looking for.  So while you could theoretically keep yourself busy doing all the raids, it's quite likely you will get bored to death with them.

Edit: Besides raids there are also high level quests that people frequently do "loot-runs" in, so that's another option to keep busy.