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I did not have a problem playing SWTOR before I left in single player. In fact, I leveled several of my characters without ever playing with another person ever. BUT, I also enjoyed it when I could play with a few of my friends to complete quests. I had one character that ONLY played with those friends and never alone. So, you could do it both ways before.

Now, would I like SWTOR to be a single player only game....NO. I like the option to either play alone or in a group AS I CHOOSE.


I played about 530 hours in LiF. The game can be fun BUT.... unless you have a lot of friends that are dedicated to building and taking the time to do so, the game can and does get tedious real fast. This is not a game for a one man solo or even just a two man team. Everything you need to do takes a lot of time. Especially, terraforming. If you happen to get a plot of land to build on, you will probably need to level it out to build a proper settlement/castle/fortification. And depending upon the size, expect to be moving a lot of dirt. This last is what killed it for me and about 7 of my friends that were playing. Digging dirt.We began calling it "Digging Simulator 2015".  We just got burnt out.

I am not saying any of this to keep anyone from trying the game. If you can get into a good group with a lot of people, go for it. Just don't expect anything to happen fast in the game.


As bad as most MMO's are today...consoles can have them all.  Not a fan of consoles (or rather "controller only computers"). Use to be a console gamer along side my PC. Any more, I can't see a reason to have a console when my PC does things so much better (control wise).


I was never a big fan of Battlefront 1 or 2...although I played both for a short time. Like others have said here, it just did not keep my interest for long. The new Battlefront looks nice but I still do not see that it is in any way superior to either Battlefield 3 or 4. If they would have "reskinned" BF4 and added some special Star Wars bells and whisltes I would probably be more confident in what Dice is doing. Don't get me wrong, I will play it. Just not sure how it will live long one my PC.

To those saying westerns are not popular right now....true only because good westerns are not being made. The last really good western that I can remember is Forgiven w/ Clint Eastwood and Gene Hackman. The last really good video western was Red Dead Redemation. Both are what nearly 10 years old now. There have also been some very good westerns that were made for TV....Lonesome Dove, Monty Walsh and others. The problem isn't lack of popularity but rather lack of willingness to make something that doesn't require a green screen and special effects.


Originally posted by Brenics

Fallout should be a lot better than ESOTU, made by two different companies and right now ZoS has no idea how to fix bugs or deal with players.

Glad I have FO4 coming out to fall back on. :-D


The article is not about ESO or ZoS in any way. It is about ES the single player series versus the Fallout series only. But you could say that accurately that Elder Scrolls (Skyrim) IS better the ESO.


The above aside, I have always liked Elder Scrolls better but only slightly. Each has its own perks, quirks and flourishes. I am not even sure it is fair to compare ES series to FO series in many ways simply due to subject matter.


No, we really don't need a FO MMO.  Part of the uniqueness of the Fallout series is the ability to wander a post-apocolyptic world that has been nearly wiped out. Finding POCKETS of humanity to interact with is part of the fun. In an MMO setting, you would have to deal with "100's" or "1000's" of like minded survivers doing more or less the same quests as you. It just would not be the same.

With that said, I would not mind havng a FO game that allows me to roam the wastes with a friend or even two or three. But not a bunch of strangers. So, NO to a FO MMO.


Since the first Atari console "way back when" and since the first gaming computer (an Apple), I have own both console AND PC strictly for gaming. During that entire time, I knew that a console is nothing more then a PC in a different box made to play on my TV. But, I also knew that what I was getting out of my console was not the same as what I was getting from my PC games. I have watched over the years are consoles improved. I have also watched as PC's have improved. I know it has happened. But, I still feel my PC does games better then my console.

With that said, I have come to a crossroad. Now I am no longer a console gamer. I am not buying into the console "hype machine" anymore. I am not purchasing a new console that does what my PC does but usually not as well. I am sticking with the PC.



I think one person mentioned it but no one picked it up. People are rushing to get to that so-called "end game". They want to start PvPing or raiding in that end game and that is all they really care about. Story and lore and enjoying how that unfolds is just not what they want. Frankly, I do not understand why they even play MMO's. Why not just play a FPS or MOBA instead.


Originally posted by rodingo

I guess I'll let a bad pug get me down  


On a serious note though, I'm looking forward to getting this.  I'm only the fence because I 'm trying to decide if I should get it with my current GTX 680 or wait until I upgrade so my experience isn't marred to much.


I run it on a GTX 680 and it is just fine. Looks great and runs great.

As to the game itself....I like it....but I do not like it a lot. Not based upon looks or preformance but rather perception of what I was getting into when I purchased the game. I really thought that this was going to be a seamless open world type game. It is ... sort of. Each "area" is open world. Trouble is, when the ajoin boarders and you attempt to travel back or forth you are told "you have travelled too far". What? I know, it may not be possible to do this all in a seamless manner. I just thought that it was going to be seamless when I purchased the game.

Also, quests. I like them and I hate them. Some are straight forward and some are just difficult to follow. Some of this has to do with the map. When is says "go to the Gorlund swamplands", I expect that to be titled such on my map. If it because I haven't discovered it yet, why can't I just ask people where it is and have it marked on my map?

Don't get me wrong, I like Witcher 3. I just don't think it is "great".


Originally posted by giftedHorn

I read the original post. Thanks.


Adding new game plus might pull me back to this game. Maybe. It's just a chore to play is the problem. A tab target game with no auto-attack and umpteen different cooldowns to juggle -- not what I want in my leisure time.


So, make it more like a console game, have new game plus, and maybe I'm there.


Played SWTOR from beta up to and including the "f2p" bs. SWTOR was a pretty good story game to me. Not perfect but good. But, like all level based games, it just lost something once you made max level. No more story...just constant GRIND for gear. F2p did not help that at all. Game became, even before f2p, far to repetitive once you hit max level.

Now, could there be a SWTOR 2 in the works? Maybe....but not likely. It is far more likely that they (EA/Bio) will not put the resources into another AAA Star Wars MMO for some time. Investors get pretty ansty about medicore returns and trying another go at the MMO with a Star Wars theme would make those investors even more ansty. So, I really do not see it happening.


The quality of any game, be it MMO or stand alone, is not in how high the price of entry can be made. The quality of the game is in the GAME PLAY. I do not care if you make an MMO with a $200 sub per month, it will not assure that it would have great gameplay. It could just as easily be a $200 per month turkey as it could be a great game. So, don't ever say that $40 (or $200) per month sub is going to make the "next big MMO" because it is never a sure thing.


I am going to sit this one out for a bit. Still not convinced that it is going to get the proper gaming applications for one. For another, I am concerned as to the effect on long term use as well. Not the "motion sickness" asspects but effects on the eye in general. We shall see (no pun intended).


Originally posted by Kopogero

And even make a poll about it...Play the MMORPG's out there and keep changing/rotating them like used clothes for F2P/B2P or even some P2P or pay a $30-45 monthly sub for one truly amazing MMORPG you could see yourself immersed for many years to come. Remember the core thing about MMORPG's and what truly made them special (at least for me) was their depth, their persistent, virtual and most of the time open worlds full with mystery, player interaction (but not forced) through trade, crafting, questing, conflicts (wars/factions), structure building and so forth.

Reality is the more complex and feature rich the MMORPG is (the more choices it allows for the player to play and experience it) the more development it requires, which equals bigger funding. I'm also not saying funding is everything, cuz clearly in the past we've seen these MMORPG's can in fact be done for far less that someone would think has to pay now. Many MMORPG's which you already know having some of these core features were developed over 10-15 years ago, but today it feels like graphics=>everything else.

It feels like developers think if our game is not 3d it won't be enjoyable. It has to have this type of engine, bla bla bla...In fact I could totally see myself playing games like UO today (even though the 2d graphics can be far superior today) or current games like SWG with their old 3d graphics. They aren't looking terrible unlike some other like Wurm Online, Runescape, etc.

Believe me, I have benefited and benefited a lot with some joy, entertainment without spending a penny of some F2P products out there, but reality is these products when I look back I can't find myself think on one epic memory I deeply cherish out of playing them. So, let's see where this community stands with this.

I think at least if I see one company to "test" the $29.99 P2P model, while also clearly showing to the consumers how it's totally worth for what's could truly mean something for the future of this genre.



Sorry, not enough options in this poll to make it valid. It only allows your two options and not a "None of the above" or further choices. By the way, spending MORE on an MMO does not make it being "aussome" a sure thing. I have played cheaply funded games that were GREAT and massively over funded games that were trash.

I would also argue that "f2p" automatically makes a game less then good for many reasons. And, that P2P and B2P games can go either way as well.

Originally posted by Tidel

ITT: Numerous opinions on what the best space sim ever is..and stating it like it's a fact. 




Actually, Asteroids is the best space sim ever hands done. And please, bring back all those arcade shops so that I can lose another fortune in quarters playing games.




Originally posted by Slapshot1188

On the official forums I thought there was an insghtful post made by someone who is apparently defending the game here but wanted to voice some concerns privately.  I thought it was worth sharing the inner thoughts of some of the "defenders" here...


Ive taken some jabs in that thread at some of the sillier accusations but at the same time there is something that has been bugging me for a while that is going to get hammered hard over the next few weeks: why the box price?

Pay to train is an integral part of the design and if you are playing and being entertained why not pay, cool. We also have a cash shop which I assume will have cooler stuff as we go. But
it really is the box price that makes the cash grab accusations undefendable and takes PFO so far outside the going rate for similar products. I thought the box should have been nixed after the KS, but I guess there was an argument about gating the first couple months of EE.

At this point,
starving for population, where is the argument to charge a box price for the digitally dowloaded paid beta (I don't mind calling it a paid beta, F it)? I think GW is shooting to high with that box charge, not just now, but forever. Rough waters ahead, good a time as any to bank the goodwill that comes with nixing it.




I really do not understand these sorts of complaints. Do people not know that they do not need to shell out their money (or anyone else's for that matter) on ANY product. Well except maybe those mandated by government but that is off-topic. If you do not like something because of the price, quality, subject matter or any other thing, DO NOT SPEND MONEY ON IT. It is the individuals CHOICE as to what they wish to spend or not spend their own money on. If is not our place to force or judge that choice.


Originally posted by jcrg99

I am not trying to flame anyone, but I am sincerely willing to know the opinion of the MMORPG community about some of the recent Cloud Imperium statements shared through an animation that opened the most recent Around the Verse show, shared with the entire world through their official website and youtube.

The animation is here:

The message was pretty simple and clear, even that stated by cartoon methods.

CIG claimed that console gamers are primitive human beigns, that Wing Commander was the best Space Sim ever (ignoring all others of its time and relased later) and following simple logic of their statememts, both Wing Commander and any other Space Sim, was suplanted already by their Arena Commander module in its current status.

I think that they were too harsh with games like Elite: Dangerous, EvE, X series, X-Wing, space sim in general, even with the own Chris Roberts legacy, Wing Commander, when stating through that animation that Arena Commander is already "the best space sim ever".

The worst part is that their community shared through their feedback about the show in their forums, that the animation "was the best of the show", "glorious" and other similar feedbacks:

Curious enough, those fans and even Roberts got used to justify all the problems or lack of advance of that module, or the lack of participation of their own public playing that module, because "it's alpha", but now, contradicting all that, we see this animation stating that they already consider Arena Commander "the best space sim ever" now!

Besides, I think that is far from normal or acceptable what they said about console fans, stating that they are like "primitive human beings".

One thing is to try to hype people, to motivate more ship sales, since they are currently selling ships in a limited form by absolutely expensive prices... but other thing is to try to bad mouth others to make it appear better. Probably are hurting themselves with that attittude. Getting money from a few, but ignoring how their message can sound to all the rest. Closing doors in the medium/long term in my point of view.

Hate or not EA, publishers and other companies, we don't see they bad mouthing PC Gamers through their interviews/shows, or even bad mouthing crowd-funding parties like the made by CIG, while they keep bad mouthing publishers as "greedy".

I think that their attitude was truly pathetic and offensive to the game industry as a whole, to games like Elite Dangerous, to the own legacy Wing Commander and even worst, the high level of offensive attack to the console fans, that deserves much more respect, just because prefer consoles, of been called "primitive".

I think that they do not see any limit anymore to motivate ship sales/cash grabbing (to the point of ridicularizing the own legacy of Roberts: Wing Commander), because I think that they are doing that when stating that AC is the best space sim ever.

I would like to know the opinion of the other usual MMORPG posters about that.

It's a serious mistake. For much less people get fired in any half-serious company.



Well now. Thin skinned much? What you mention was a very "tongue-in-cheek" montage in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy style...whick is also tongue-in-cheek. The vid pokes FUN at console games AND PC gamers.....but mostly console gamers. It pokes fun at the human race in general while tauting the obvious superiority of alien races. Do you know any alien races? It pokes fun at Chris Roberts other major gaming accomplishment while also tauting it. So, what is your real problem here?

Some people have little to NO sense of humor. ;)



How is it that this game is so "expensive"? Isn't is FREE... (irony off)


Originally posted by monochrome19

I often see mmo vets bemoan current titles because dungeons and the like can be soloed or done in 5-10 mins unlike in the past where it was face-stompingly hard (I'm assuming). Nothing wrong with this, I like a challenge myself, but thinking about it further I realized something. Isn't this content BETTER for vets? It's probably not a stretch to say this content was designed with you in mind. By now, most vets are in their 30s or 40s with a family, job, etc with very sparse time.


If challenging/long content WAS developed vets wouldnt be able to participate in it because of their limited time. So shouldnt we be seeing the opposite? Shouldnt vets be praising new developers for making content they can solo between a hectic life?


I think you assume far too much here. I have been playing PC games as a hobby since I was in my late 20's. Started somewhere in the 80's. Was married and had one son at the time. Never stopped me from playing any "long" content at that time. And as I got older, I had more kids (total of 4) and continued to play those long content type of games on PC/console. I even got three of my kids into the hobby themselves and they have played right along with me to this day. As I approach 60 (next month) I am still concerned when content is short changed. Give any content that takes days if not weeks to complete and I am very happy.


Now, I am not saying that SOME shorted content is not a good thing. In fact, sprinkling a LITTLE in once and a while helps pacing. But if  it becomes ALL short content, no thanks...not worth the money.


From what I know and have heard, I could never suggest buying from Cyberpower. While they may build "great looking" PC it is reallly how they run and how they back them up when they break. And  based upon my least with 2 computers...there is a very good chance that they will break. Then good luck getting them fixed. Sorry, no deal for me with that company.

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