So somehow i accidently deleted my early access key from D2D.  Does anyone know how to get an email from them again with the info i need?

Originally posted by tarkin1980

Trust me, I really really wanted to give WAR a chance.. I've been into warhammer since 1996 and GW games since around 1992 and I'm a big fan.. but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I knew before I logged in that it was a WoW clone (and I hate WoW), but since it's warhammer... you know.. I had to try it.

And there is why you hate the game.  You should read this:

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/onlinenow225/092008/2588_Playing-a-new-game-How-it-should-be-looked-at

The way you looked at the game, you were destined for failure.  Good job on how close minded you are.

Originally posted by Sketch5

Originally posted by rikilii

Originally posted by FreddyNoNose

I am the only person who is sick of hearing the hype from darkfall fanbois (AkA: darkfellows).  Can't you darkfellows keep your darkfall post on the dark fellow forum?

 

C'mon, when will you people just give it up and believe?  Get over yourself and your lack of faith.

Can't you see that Darkfall is going to kick WoW in the shins and then decapitate it like the little bitch that it is?

I mean, in Darkfall, they spell "Orc" with a "k" ("Ork").  That's so friggin' genius and original I can hardly contain myself.  How can they possibly fail with creativity like that?  What more do you want?  Proof? 

 

 

Actually Games Workshop has been spelling Ork with a "k" for many years now.

 

Oh, and the first part of your post makes Darkfall look like a cult.

That's the point of his post.  Most Darkfall fanbois, make Darkfall look like a new religon or some crap.

No i dont hate the game but nothing in it screams innovation like so many think it does.

Darkfall will have its niche players, but thats it.  That type of game only survives on the niche players.  It will never ever see anything close to WoW subs.  It would never get 1/10th of it because of its extreme penities.

Majority dosn't like to cut their balls off after they just dropped.

What is with people.

The people who claim WAR is going to be a grind, have you played the game?

With everyone talking about "grinds" coming from WoW it is a joke.

What do you guys consider a grind?  Is killing and seiging a capitol city a grind to you?

Constant need to use a flight master to get places due to long walk times.  5 min walk backs after death.  Only able to raid a dungeon once a week.  Only able to do each Heroic Dungeon Once a week.  Rep Grinds.  Arena, BG's.  Not to mention dailies which are a grind.  Along with riding mount Gold Sinks.  Crafting is the biggest joke.  You spend a week on crafting 1 item that is garbage after 2 weeks of raiding.  To top it off, only you are able to use that item.  Can't make one and sell it some someone else.

Now whats different about BG's for WAR and WoW.  BG's in WoW are there for nothing but gear.  Scenarios in WAR are there for a change of pace.  You can join one anytime you feel like.  If you don't feel like PvEing you can go jump in a scenario.  If your bord of laying waste on that castle, you can join a scenario.  No you dont have to run all the way to a main city to join it either. 

People saying WAR is just going to be a grind really have not played the game.  Along with thinking that the game is going to be a gear based as WoW.

I truely think most of people that came from WoW, have completely lost sight of what fun really is. 

Originally posted by Esther-Chan

I've always been the type of person to take everything with a grain of salt, but I have to admit there's too much bias towards WAR/WOW/AOC to get an accurate representation of this game.

A game's first impression is it's most important. When players are biased they do not help new players form an honest opinion about the game. Players that are biased create an unhealthy amount of hype surrounding the game, which in turn causes players to be disappointed when the game does not turn out *exactly* as some random person on the internet says.

I guess what I'm saying is I would like some honest, unbiased reviews of this game. I tire of all this Bandwagon-ing that's going on here on the forums.

Comparing two games isn't a review, so please refrain from doing so in the future. It would really help people out like me who are interested in the game, but are still reluctant to spend their hard earned money when WotLK is so close to being released.

Thanks, Esther-Chan

Yea, you might find this interesting.

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/onlinenow225/092008/2588_Playing-a-new-game-How-it-should-be-looked-at

Talk about gear centric.

I'm very glad i left.  And they said the gear jump wouldn't be as big as in BC lmfao.

Yea, i just hope the ex alliance scrubs turn into non scrubs.

Or just quit.  Because I hate playing with people that have problems with someone directing good stratigy.

Originally posted by sandboxy

If that's what WAR has to offer for PvP, I'll pass. That was BORING. Nothing but continuous autoattack spam.

Funny thing was, I played WoW PvP video at the same time and made a comparison, WoW wins by a mile, way more skill and strategy.

Not a WAR hater, not a WoW fan. And certainly not Age of Failure fan. Just an observer.

And for heavens sake, change the title of this thread, only reason wasted minutes of my life in this thread was because I tought I was going to see REAL PvP.

He was doing alot more than it looks.  His video has horrible quality and he was only doing 1v1.  I dont know his level nore could i have seen if he had any Tactics or any Moral abilites.

But thats fine pass on WAR from bad video quality.

Ive noticed this aswell.  But ive also noticed that there alot of WoW Alliance scrubs in Order too.

They talk back to anyone that tries to form team work and cooperation.

So, I don't know about t2 order, but I know t2 Destruction gets rofl stomped bad.  But Destruction always had the keeps.

Originally posted by p4nd4m45t3r

Originally posted by Dreizack1

Originally posted by p4nd4m45t3r

I find it funny that people complain about minor mob bugs and animation glitches. Hell, when WoW was first released picking herbs would crash the game. Walking in certain places would crash the game. Hell, I remember when the Eastern Kingdoms side of the server despawned ALL of the walls on Windrunner it was hilarious.

 

Warhammer, while it has its bugs, is in a better state then WoW and many other mmos were when they launched.

 

WoW was nearly perfect at launch, and any problems they had were fixed ASAP.  AoC is at least trying to do something new, WaR is just giving us more of the same crap.

 

My bullshit-omitor is beeping it must be a clue!

Omg so funny lmfao.

"gets popcorn"

Originally posted by p4nd4m45t3r

Originally posted by squiz

god damn, it is so annoying that world of wacraft has plagued the MMO community with complete morons and idiots. i am GLAD you uninstalled and decided not to play, retards like you just ruin the game and the community by complaining. IF you think AOC is better then WAR, you sir deserve to wear a fucking helmet when u walk outside.

 

You honestly made me lol, I thank you sir!

Yea he did the same to me.  Gave me a nice little chuckle and tickled me sweetly.

Op I really like WAR.  But unless your playing the game, the fighting really looks horrible.

If I was on the fence of trying/not trying WAR videos such as yours would really turn me off.  By showing you, 1 person trying to kill Tanks, and taking over 30 seconds to do so, makes the combat seem incredibly slow.

People on the fence may not reconize the tank.

Real PvP in WAR, is not 1v1s other wise it would be horribly unbalanced.   But its when a group of say 6 peope go stomp 12 others, because they work as a team better, and know how to flank, and use collision detection to stop tanks from getting to their healers and squishies.

And you really did circle that BO way too much.  Should have hit ran away and let your pet beat on him until he started going for the pet then go after him.  Not only that should have tried to block him from moving around, such as moving behind him and sticking to his ass so he cant strafe to see you again.  So he is then forced to turn his character around.

LOL one last edit.  If you haven't noticed dunno its suppose to be like this.  But you seem to get less blocks/parries when you are behind your target.  And you would keep circling in front of them.

On top of that, that music was horrible.  I hurt to lissen to.

Originally posted by supbro

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

 

I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC's revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

Buahhahahah.  Jam packed with what?  With NPC's?  But isnt every MMO jam packed with them?

Please explain how button mashing is "innovative".  It is nothing new from any other Button Mashing MMO out there.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

I think you have to question the motives of those who post stock information especially if they don't care for the game or company at all. They turn into flame bait threads. Sure its good to know how a company is doing but 98% of current subscribers only care about whats going on in the game. When you have 15 stock thread posts in a few week spaces from that type of person mentioned above then you have to ask where can people talk about the game itself. As I said i question the motives of those who post stock info, we don't see it in any other game from people who don't play anymore. EA's 52 week low, NCsoft laying off staff and merging etc.

The forums here I thought are not for a daily report of minute by minute stock concerns. These are not business forums.

How does showing stocks turn it into a flame bate thread?  Its support to show how bad a company is doing.  If their one game that they are 100% relying on to make their income to support other games flops, its good to know if it looks like the company is going down under incase someone buys the game and finds out the game is dead.

Then they just spent $50 smackers on a dead game.  Id be pretty mad.

Originally posted by xfrozenx

and...the overpowered threads begin...how did I not notice this topic about "OMGZOVERPOWEREDHEALERS"....wow...to be expected in any game...but in beta? and healers? and really? zealots aren't overpowered....so...guess it isn't us. =)

Nah not destruction healers.  They squish like mofos.  But for some reason order healers namly rune priests are just incredibly indestructable against most class.

Maybe they do need a nerf.  But i havent fought one while i had a healer debuff on them.

O and the "DPS" tanks are very viable at attacking healers/ranged dps with a healer behind them.  They are able to make the healer take less damage, as well as do more damage to the healers/dps.  Causing all other DPS to focus on them.  And if a healers behind them then that tank is still going to tank.  While the other people the other DPS were attacking now focus on a tank.  Weather its squishier than that other tank dosnt matter.  Hes distracted the team and now being focused fired while the other side is focus fireing their healers/dps more.

Distractions in this game are key to everything.

So they sacrifce some tanking abilities to do more damage.  Thus being a dps/tank.  They have their place, they are just played differently than say a Sword and Board tank.

As many have said.  Later on all class' have a silence/healing debuff.  (Mortal strikeish)

So yea, healers especially rune priests are pretty damn op at the start of the game.   But later on its not like that.

Because if that healer cant heal, hes fuxzord.

Originally posted by spikers14

I'm not entirely sure where you are going with this, but I'll bite because I'm bored at work :)

I actually don't know that zerging will ALWAYS fail. In fact, in can be a tactic all in itself in certain situations. For instance, a diversion away from a greater tactic or formation... But yes, employing tactics will be a lot of fun, if not common place in this mmo. How else are you going to compete? Those who never catch on to this fact, might just end up leaving and rightly so -- as they could quickly become discouraged.

Also, I sincerely doubt EVERY server Order will be outnumbered. Especially if the number of servers tends to increase (game growth). Just as some WoW servers have more Horde for example. But your arguement DOES make me curious as to how server balance will play out over time, not just upon inital release.

Either way -- bottom line is both sides will learn tactics over time, I sincerely doubt population will affect this too much. It may, however, affect what other teams you side with in general.

 

Yes, when people are forced to change because the little zerg vrs the big zerg losses.  People will eaither quit.  Or develope a scence of team work.

Yes i think thats the reasoning for his post.

And so far it seems very true.

Originally posted by Endlos

Originally posted by skeaser

Originally posted by Kubush

Any chance they will release the Empire tank class that was cut a few months ago?

 

From what I understand Mark Jacobs was saying, the answer is no, they couldn't get the cut classes balances with their intended mechanics.

I agree, however, it would be nice at lower levels to have the full spectrum of archtypes.

 

This doesn't make sense to me, though, at least for the tanks.

Hammerer/Choppa, sure, they were mirrors of each other and, presumably, used the same mechanic that no other class shares.

However, the Black Guard was going to use the Ironbreaker's mechanic, and the KotBS was going to use the Chosen mechanic.  Since the mirrors are already in the game I don't see how they couldn't make them work.

EDIT so no one thinks I'm an order sympathizer: KotBS can go eat one for all I care.  I want to play a Black Guard.

From what i was told from an Elder player in game, KotBS were IMBA along with Black Guard (only Mythic played BG)

Choppa and Hammerer i have no clue what was wrong with them.  Prolly IMBA again.

Now i aswell am joining Order.  But I am joining not because they are the "Good" guys.  But because they are the guys that call you a heratic.  And w/out question burn pillage and kill your family under the name of their god.

No side is good.  Just one side thinks they are good.