Other games make it take longer and longer to level because they want that subscription money. GW2 won't have a subscription so arenanet doesn't really care about the time it takes to level.

Of course they do. Does the alliance have a song?

Originally posted by Baxslash

Unfortunately, it will never happen until 500 mill players drop mmo all together, just to prove the point of the "customer is always right" arguement.

Game Companies have gotten so greedy for cash, that they'll try anything to get people to get the most sought after items possible. Its just a sad day to us gamers who want to have that pure an open game right from the get go nowadays.

There is no where near 500,000,000 mmo players.

I have an 80 mage. I use arcane, frost is fun and useful for survival but arcane pumps out the damage.  When I pop berserking (troll racial) the hasten thing arcane power and mirror image my dps goes up really high and people fall very fast. Advice for a mage in Battlegrounds is to always stay in packs or defend. I usually don't die much if at all defending and staying with larger numbers. I believe mages are very fun to play. Can't say much for shaman though.

Originally posted by TheHatter

Originally posted by GTwander

That's a lot of words for a simple conclusion of "people are treating these games like a 2nd job, and are unwilling to take on a 'trainee' if it affects their expected workflow". Maybe that's a bit too much, but on the same page I think.

No, not a second job. Getting people who know the fights, keeps it from making it a second job. 

If people don't know the fights, then it makes the simplest dungeons and raids take way longer than they are supposed to. Add into that, dying and costing lots and lots of gold, then you can go ahead and add in that if you have too many who don't know the fights, then you can't even finish the simple dungeons.

When I played, if people didn't have good gear scores and/or didn't know the fights, they would be booted pretty quickly. I'm not playing to teach people how to play, I was playing to get my gear and play the game. There are just too damn many people to teach in WoW and they can find their schooling other places. There are too many people who can't play the game for crap too....... and they would get booted quick. WoW is a simple game. Things like mages who used Ice Armor....... going in that's ok, but if they kept it on even during the first group they would get eliminated from the group.

Sounds like WoW is your only job.

No. 

Dungeon finder took out the community feeling for my server. Before, you would actually have to socialize with people on your server in order to level and what not. ( It wasn't impossible to not socialize with your server) Pretty much all of that is gone now. Which I hate. The reason I like WoW ( and I guess mmo's ) more than normal games is because of the added socializing. Now, I do get plenty of socializing done outside of the game, ( Not trying to sound like a hardcore gamer, I spend at most 30 minutes a week on WoW now, usually it consist of me logging in running a few steps on my mount and then alt+f4ing.) but I suppose I'm just attracted to being around people. Even when I'm in zones no one seems to talk, I guess it is because no one is out in the zones actually questing. I wish WoW would remove the dungeon finder. 

Originally posted by arenasb

Originally posted by Leviathonlx

The amount of content still in Cataclysm is much much more than you'd get out of any other games expansion.

 If you like raiding then that's true. If you don't enjoy raiding then you are out of luck.

They're adding 3000 quest.

I've played APB and uninstalled it the same day.

It was fun for about 30 minutes, but it's the same shit over and over. The other stuff outside the action is pretty boring too.

Now, I was a big supporter and fan of APB up until I played. I thought it was going to be bad ass like grand theft auto or something. however, this is not the case. The game doesn't run smooth, and for me I can't play a game that is all chunky like.

Originally posted by gatheris

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by gatheris

Sub cancelled and no you can't have my stuff :)

and just to avoid the noise

I'm paying a subscription fee which IMHO gets me 100% percent of the content of the game - i don't care if the item in the shop is a pink tutu with purple spots it better be earnable/available in game

if/when the game goes ftp - THEN i won't care

But... you can get a pet dog in the game. You also outgrow the benefits of the goggles by level 5 or so.

 

Did you bother to look into this at all or did you just see exrtas available for a fee and freak out?

 apparently reading is not second nature to you

please try again starting with "i'm paying a subscription..............."

there is no "freak out" - i just don't pay a sub for games with cash shops - again, i don't care what is in it

i don't expect anyone to follow me like little lemmings - though if it would put a stop to this that would be cool as i really liked this game - sigh

 

running out of choices though - back to EVE maybe until LOTRO is availabe FTP

 

 "lornphoenix" - thanks for that response - - - happy to see someone on these forums has at least 2 brains cells to rub together :) 

 

and another one "Khalathwyr"

Lol you're freaking the fuck out over this one.

thanks

apb

Pay to play.

I generally have more fun on Pay to play. They're are generally of better quality. I rather have an up front cost, rather than charging for a new car, gun, etc.

Haha fucking alright. I was looking at Gods and Heroes less than a month ago hoping they would return to it.

wow killer

Housing is coming?

Originally posted by Binko

Ok, so it's no levels in this game and people think it will be all about the players skill...

What about weapons? I don't think a new player will start with a M-16. So in the end... is it about player skill or who has the biggest gun?

Also how will the vehicle system work? Do we get a Ferrari from start or an old Fiat?

I hope they don't have all the focus on character design and nice looking tattoos.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO TROLL! 

No, I believe the only thing that gets better with more timed played are cars and outfits.

Originally posted by Kalefen

LOTRO fans definitely.  Has everything they asked for except the pvp (pvm) is rather pointless.  But I'd sure tell them lotro before age of conan..I mean seriously? His wife wanted High fantasy - not an mmorpg where people were high when they made the game ;p

I want to know more about this game that the developers were high when they made it. Sounds fun as hell

Originally posted by colutr

Originally posted by InvaderGUI

LOL  you people are funny. First you complain about how easy WoW is then when they create a true challenge you all complain again. Sooo funny how many pansies play this game. LOL

This^^

Oculus was one of the most fun instances when i used to play. I soloed the boss on the platform that shoots lightning on my DK, everyone else was dead cause they diddn't know how to stay outside of the lightning. Was on heroic too.

Last boss is a bit hard and requires actual teamwork.

Nobody thinks Oculus is hard. You have like 4 abilities. I think the reason everyone hates it is because the action is a lot slower than most fights and you simply push the same button over and over.

Best:: WoW, yeah there are idiots, but they're outnumbered by actual nice people. Plus haven't been in an MMO that the community stayed in contact and knew about some of the people on the server.

Worst: AoC or WAR. AoC was just constant bitching, warhammer there was no community.

Haha I got it three times in a row. Each time the group disbands. It is just simply a horrible dungeon that close to no one likes. Honestly they should remove it from the game or random dungeon. Maybe leave it up to a vote of the players.