All Posts by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

If one person is allowed to be unbound by the NDA and post whatever they like freely without restriction or censorship, then everyone is exempt from NDA. You can't have it both ways.

But, then again, anyone who thinks mr. moderator from nonamewebsite.com will not be in Tasos back pocket is insane, anyway.

 

lol zorvan alot fo games do this before nda lift.

Aoc did it. granted he only got to try the 1-20 part of it so it gave a good impression lol

also it leads me to belive if that part of it is true then open beta should be starting in the next week or 2

i dont expect darkfall to be perfect i do expect a game that works somethign along the lines of eve.

ps they have 30 devs and i can post a greek news interview with them stating that if i have to

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by sandboxy

Originally posted by Shannia

You know why it is hard to believe Tasos and this "beta" that is going on?  Where are the youtube leaks?  People love to become famous for "breaking" the rules and showing the world a new game.  When you invite random people, something has to give.  As of yet, nothing really has.

 

 

 

I'm also puzzled by this, no leaks at all?? Unheard of.

But I also do not understand why people consider leaks from anonymous people as some sort of evidence. They are ANONYMOUS for crying out loud! They prove nothing, they are exactly as believable as those quotes Aventurine just released.

All this debating of whether Darkfall is real or not,  just few weeks before supposed release, is retarded even for MMORPG.com community. They are not giving out preorders (apparently) and they still haven't changed their release for a later date. Wait for few weeks, costs you nothing.

Why does everyone assume no leaks at all just because they haven't seen any, and the second someone tries to say otherwise, no one believes them. I got booted from the Darkfall IRC for talking about a leak :/

Also, they had a bug with the website not too long ago, where they show all the people logged in on the forums (thats always been there) but they also showed people logged into the beta forums, and you could click someone's profile and it'd show what they were posting on the forums and where. Then the site went down for maintenance, and this was fixed :( 

Point is, why are you idiotcs convincing yourself there's no beta? 

 

Beta leaks doesn't have anything, not one peep.

maybe noone that uses that site is in beta

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Just a thought here, the beta testers have not progressed very far at all in the game due to multiple characacter wipes and features being turned off.  It is pretty hard to grasp the nature of crafting using very low skilled characters.  

I think you should wait until we get a better idea of how complex it actually is.  UO had a very similar crafting system that worked very well.  We are just going to have to be patient and see if Darkfall continues that success. 

That part I high-lighted above is my biggest beef with Aventurine, the Devs., and DarkFall.

 

Umm.... it's 5 weeks or less until the game is supposed to be released.  Wouldn't NOW be a good time to start releasing this kind of information?  Shouldn't we at least have an idea of how some of this stuff works?

 

I wouldn't mind knowing how many servers, where they will be hosted, the montly sub. cost either... but I guess that can wait until the day it's released too. 

 

For the OP... I agree with your initial assessment.  An "average" crafting system was not what I was hoping for.  One that works "on par" with what we had in UO was not what I was hoping for.  What is wrong with wanting something BETTER than everything else out there?  Or even, BETTER than what we had in UO... that game is 10 years old for crying out loud! 

Anyway... I guess hoping for something that was actually a step ABOVE in regards to crafting was probably a waste of time.  

they already said they wasnt going to release that info.

plus tasos already said they didnt try to reinvent the wheel for crafting. waite he was being honest geese
 

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by originalegg

Originally posted by Zayne3145

Ok, first of all stop playing WoW. It's not the game you want it to be, and never will be.

Secondly, DF will most likely be broken or incomplete on release so I wouldn't get your hopes up. If you want a hardcore, in-depth and complex MMORPG that delivers what it promises, come back in about 8-10 years.

 

basically the same as me saying it will most likely be 100% perfect and smooth with all its features and then some.  how about we just wait until open beta before you start accusing it of being broken and incomplete.  from the beta tester's...it seems to be anything but that.

You mean the unbsubstantiated hand picked quotes from anonymous testers?
 

yea he got some negative post too of ocurse there could be worse but do you really know if there is?

Originally posted by busbydaniel

Looking at the lastest news to come from the devs I must admit I was a little disappointed. Like most people I cannot wait for Darkfall to come out, it looks new, refreshing and completely sandbox. Which is what I have been itching for since SWG was ruined.

However, I am heavily into crafting and was hoping for crafting similar, but different to SWG. I hate the fact that everyone can craft the same weapon and then flood the market with little or no variation (like most MMORPG’s). Everything I have read so far seems to suggest that crafting in Darkfall is simple and basic, which comes across to me as just like other online games.

I was really hoping for something more from Darkfall. I would love to craft my own weapon but the quality of that weapon varied. I would then sell it and get a rep as a good weapons seller. I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Just my thoughts…
 

the dev journals said it was nothing special. why dont you actully play before you decide

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by VPellen

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by MrBoots

Darkfall does not have a paid CM. They have an unpaid volunteer running their website, and forums.

 

another good way to save money.

ps told the mod here non beta people are not seeing the nda

 

 Humm not sure I understand your PS.

You told the Mod here at MMORPG.COM that people not in the beta will not be able to see the NDA?

 As to your post, sure its a way to save money but is it a good way to get a Intelligent,  trustworthy CM thats good at the job? "Get that NDA too you? Maybe I'll look into it after my nap, unless of course I'm hungry in which case I'm gonna grab a bite to eat. Don't worry I might remember your request later when i feel like it."

 

imeant brannoc told me he told this mod no noones getting it unless there in beta
 

 

Wait, do you mean to say that Brannoc told ME that nobody is getting the NDA unless they're getting into beta?

Because no, no he didn't tell me that.

 

Ohhh, sticky situation here. So who's lying, downtoearth or Brannoc?

 

hey brannoc told me he told you no err the mod

<Brannoc> ah, I already told him no

<Brannoc> I made it clear what the nda entails, we're not giving it out to non-beta participants

 

Looks like Brannoc did some fibbing then. Hmmm, deceit from someone connected to Darkfall? Who'd have thought.
 

or there was amiss communication some where
 

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by VPellen

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by MrBoots

Darkfall does not have a paid CM. They have an unpaid volunteer running their website, and forums.

 

another good way to save money.

ps told the mod here non beta people are not seeing the nda

 

 Humm not sure I understand your PS.

You told the Mod here at MMORPG.COM that people not in the beta will not be able to see the NDA?

 As to your post, sure its a way to save money but is it a good way to get a Intelligent,  trustworthy CM thats good at the job? "Get that NDA too you? Maybe I'll look into it after my nap, unless of course I'm hungry in which case I'm gonna grab a bite to eat. Don't worry I might remember your request later when i feel like it."

 

imeant brannoc told me he told this mod no noones getting it unless there in beta
 

 

Wait, do you mean to say that Brannoc told ME that nobody is getting the NDA unless they're getting into beta?

Because no, no he didn't tell me that.

 

Ohhh, sticky situation here. So who's lying, downtoearth or Brannoc?

hey brannoc told me he told you no err the mod

<Brannoc> ah, I already told him no

<Brannoc> I made it clear what the nda entails, we're not giving it out to non-beta participants

Originally posted by winter

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by MrBoots

Darkfall does not have a paid CM. They have an unpaid volunteer running their website, and forums.

 

another good way to save money.

ps told the mod here non beta people are not seeing the nda

 

 Humm not sure I understand your PS.

You told the Mod here at MMORPG.COM that people not in the beta will not be able to see the NDA?

 As to your post, sure its a way to save money but is it a good way to get a Intelligent,  trustworthy CM thats good at the job? "Get that NDA too you? Maybe I'll look into it after my nap, unless of course I'm hungry in which case I'm gonna grab a bite to eat. Don't worry I might remember your request later when i feel like it."

 

imeant brannoc told me he told this mod no noones getting it unless there in beta
 

Originally posted by nileq

Originally posted by Shannia

You know why it is hard to believe Tasos and this "beta" that is going on?  Where are the youtube leaks?  People love to become famous for "breaking" the rules and showing the world a new game.  When you invite random people, something has to give.  As of yet, nothing really has.

 

 

 

DFO NDA:

If anyone leaks information/screenshots/videos without permission from Aventurine, the ENTIRE group of betatesters at that time will be banned from beta and replaced with new testers"

^^

Well it would be an explanation.

And to all those who think that Tasos made those quotes up; Any longtime forumfaller recognize several characters active on the boards in those quotes. If you read 100's maby 1000's of posts made by a person, you recognize their way of writing. "awsomesaucage" anyone? lol

LOl you know i find that is very possible.

pm me who that is

Originally posted by mcpoopypantz

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by insom69

This isnt a troll just trying to get at the game as id really love to play it and cant wait IF its all true, i really just cant see as anyone is in the beta i understand there's an nda and you shouldnt say but if its coming out this year as alot of people think and hope then surely someone wouldnt really care if they got booted out of the beta for posting pictures and other things also if i got into the beta i know my friends irl would know and almost definatly post something somewhere about it. anyone else not understand and think the beta testers are just bots? 

You don't just get booted out of beta, you get banned from retail. It already happened to someone on the main Darkfall forums. 

 

As for the idiot saying "if there's an open beta in 2008, it'll release in 2010" from what planet do open betas last 2 years? Most I've seen is 2-3 weeks. 

 

LOL you honestly believe they are banning people from retail? HAHA come on, how would they do that? Permanently ban their IP address in the server code? You can easily change your IP. Ban MAC address? You can change that too. This statement you just made was complete rubbish.

 

I heard you don't just get banned from the beta, adn the retail version of Darkfall, but Tasos will ban you from the internet. That's why people don't break the NDA, they don't want to be banned from the internet.

I know this guy, and he was in the Beta, and he just thought about breaking the NDA, and now he can't get on the internet no matter where he goes. Seriously.

 

lol

 

why is that funny its true

no its not lol

Originally posted by MrBoots

Darkfall does not have a paid CM. They have an unpaid volunteer running their website, and forums.

another good way to save money.

ps told the mod here non beta people are not seeing the nda

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by imbant

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by Rhannek

How exactly are you applying Occam's Razor to this?

 

Its much easier that a good MMO dont exist. Occam´s Razor means the easy way out. WoW example.

 

Occam's razor actually means that all things being considered, the simplest solution is usually the correct one.

As in it obviously makes more sense that the game is real etc (especiaily with all the infallable proof) than it is an elaborate scam or hoax and all the updates are lies.

 

I don't think anyone doubts the game is "real" as in they made some models and a video. The question is does it play like hte feature list on the website, or is it another Dark and Light?

All things being considered, it's obviously a lot easier to make a Dark 'n Light than a really good MMORPG, and the motivation is self explanitory.

Who's going to say, "Look everyone! I made a turd"?

lol dark and light had a stolen engine for one. 2 df been in dev longer to get it right

Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by insom69

This isnt a troll just trying to get at the game as id really love to play it and cant wait IF its all true, i really just cant see as anyone is in the beta i understand there's an nda and you shouldnt say but if its coming out this year as alot of people think and hope then surely someone wouldnt really care if they got booted out of the beta for posting pictures and other things also if i got into the beta i know my friends irl would know and almost definatly post something somewhere about it. anyone else not understand and think the beta testers are just bots? 

You don't just get booted out of beta, you get banned from retail. It already happened to someone on the main Darkfall forums. 

 

As for the idiot saying "if there's an open beta in 2008, it'll release in 2010" from what planet do open betas last 2 years? Most I've seen is 2-3 weeks. 

 

LOL you honestly believe they are banning people from retail? HAHA come on, how would they do that? Permanently ban their IP address in the server code? You can easily change your IP. Ban MAC address? You can change that too. This statement you just made was complete rubbish.

 

I heard you don't just get banned from the beta, adn the retail version of Darkfall, but Tasos will ban you from the internet. That's why people don't break the NDA, they don't want to be banned from the internet.

I know this guy, and he was in the Beta, and he just thought about breaking the NDA, and now he can't get on the internet no matter where he goes. Seriously.

lol

Originally posted by Theodgrim

Originally posted by downtoearth

Originally posted by Theodgrim

5-15 second cluster loads have me concerned.  This type of thing only gets worse under stress, and I think it is pretty obvious they dont have that many testers.  I would also like to see what happens when 50 players cross a cluster boundry at the same time, etc...

 

 

wouldnt worry about it to much atm

 

I have been through the horror, so I have reason to worry.  Sure, someone is going to tell me they have debug running, and once it is turned off everything will be fine.  Heard it before. 
 

they mite have to have it that way 1 good thing is you can still see whats on the other side. of it. but just dont worry about it until open beta

Originally posted by Aragon100

Originally posted by Arcken

Originally posted by rageagainst

Originally posted by Umbral

But after I saw the nov18 updates I was shocked, every report sounded like an infomercial and are clearly written by the same person, see, this is not an issue for me or for anyone that see Darkfall as just an upcoming game, but it is a disrespectful attitude for all the people who follow this game for years.

dude on betaleaks.com there were absolutely NO leaks, save one that said "the first leaks are out" and it talked about how the graphics are better than expected and the UI is godawful, actually i think that leak was on this forum too... and if you notice, the same thing is mirrored in the Darkfall Beta Test report

But who knows mabye its a giant conspiracy by someone who has too much time on their hands, or a company decided to make forufall their experiment for research purposes, and the Illuminati firmly control the world after Barack Obama's presidency.

 

Why are the forums so large on Darkfall yet the majority of people here don't like the game O.o, mabye its the forums of people who want to prove that the majority is wrong, and mabye we are, just like how the majority of people LOVE apple when everyone on the outside see it as sh!t.

You are confusing healthy skepticism with dislike. With as many sub par titles that have been released as of late, can you really blame people for that?
 

Personally I think its good that more people are questioning companies and their integrity now. Perhaps now we'll stop seeing the trend of releasing junky games.

 

Most likely. Aventurine have a totally different approach then Funcom had with their game.

Aventurine havent hyped their game as Funcom did. Aventurine will not take pre-orders as Funcom did. Aventurine will let us play the game before we buy it, not just the noobie area as Funcom did. Aventurine seems to be the trustworthy company where Funcom were not.

I will not give Aventurine my credit card before i tried the game out though and it seems i will be able to test it fully before i decide to buy and subscribe which is a good thing.

kinda makes me wonder why people cant understand this either.

and also why these same people ask for more updates on df. they call them liars after they start to do more updates

Originally posted by Theodgrim

5-15 second cluster loads have me concerned.  This type of thing only gets worse under stress, and I think it is pretty obvious they dont have that many testers.  I would also like to see what happens when 50 players cross a cluster boundry at the same time, etc...

 

wouldnt worry about it to much atm

Originally posted by Polarization

The sad thing is that this game did not start development in 2001.

It was officially announced that development was underway in 2001.

We know that Darkfall officially started development in 2000 when Razorwax was formed.

But Darkfall was in the planning / pre-development stage from 1996-7.

Claus and the other developers said this all in the IGN 2001 announcement.

But many or even most of the supporters deny this, or ignore it even though the creator of Darkfall and its lead developer said it himself.

The other sad thing is the “they started everything from scratch (insert any date here)” myth.

The developers never said anything of the kind.

I hope this game does launch or at least start open beta this year but even after 8 years of development I doubt it will.
 

i belive open beta will at least
 

Originally posted by Morphine

You guys should watch the ADW video.

 

There's a cluster load in there when he enters the Ork capital which takes, by my count, 3 seconds.  Logically the load times entering a city should be the longest.

 

This guy who said 5-15 seconds... well, when you're playing a game and you there is a load screen, you don't time it.  Obviously he's just estimating.  It could be shorter, it could be longer.

and it mite not exist by release even tho they did say it exist for dungens a small pause