Originally posted by Wizardry

So i do not make an extra long post,i can tell you what stereotypical player role you fall into.IMO you sound very hyper and want nothing more than speedy gameplay with no storyline,non stop fighting.You fit the perfect F2P gamer.Those games are all the same and fit what you want.

The part that really confused the heck outa me,is that you say you played EQ2 and WOW??.Those games are IDENTICAL to this game in animations and gameplay,so what the heck are you talking about?The animations in FFXI are 100% realistic compared to pretty much every game out there so again i'm sure you want more the unrealistic speedy animations in F2P games.

As far as WASD keys are concerned i have heard this complaint before,and not just from this game.I can tell you i cannot stand WASD and i conformed myself away from WASD because i found the number pad and arrows less crammed amongst other keys.I am not a good typer so i am happy to see any game make the keypad or arrows used.A legitimate complaint would be to say ,games should allow total key mapping.This way you are not just thinking of yourself and realize key mapping would keep everyone happy.

I can also tell you that i have met SEVERAL wow players,in this game and there complaints all seem to leave the same impression.They want this game to be EXACTLY the way there last game was.That is quite unfair ,as anyone should realize a different game WILL be just that..DIFFERENT !.If you want the exact same mechanics,the exact same controls,the exact same mobs,then why did you leave the game before?

 

To really enjoy this game,you have to open up and leave past games behind yourself.There is NOT one game out in the market that has as much CONTENT or storyline as FFXI,just because you don't understand something in the game,do not mock it,try instead to ask others and learn what the game has to offer.

Anyways thanks for all the responses (except Wizardry), they really helped and i am really enjoying the game now.  Ive decided to to level as a red mage on pand server.  Thanks again (not you Wizardry).

Originally posted by Arcken

 

Well again Ill reiterate, its more aimed to a particular niche of players, and at the risk of sounding elitist, its not mmo-lite.

 

If you decide that 10 minutes into a movie you dont like it and leave, or read a chapter in a book and put it down, you dont dislike the whole thing, you only dislike the part you were exposed to.

I agree with you Arcken.  Thats why i will stick with this game for a month to see how i still feel.  Its just lame that my first impression is so....bad.  I really had high hopes and was expecting that feel i had with games like eq2 and eve where you are so excited the first few hours and you want to learn and do everything you can in the game.  :*(

Quick question to you thought; do you use pc or console and if pc, do you use a usb controller?

I guess no reason to go back now, never was a fan of BM especially for PvE... Considering I also raided + geared around the PvE survival build reaching 1100 agi fully buffed (just for the 25% of expose weakness to all raid...) I'd be pretty much sucky as a BM :(

 

Anyways, i think the pvp was fun.  Yeah it was annoying when you fight a combo in arena that is almost impossible to beat, but hey its a rock paper scissor game.

So, i bought the vana'diel collection 2007 for pc which includes the first three expansions along with final fantasy 11.  I have heard from many people that the game is more fun and easier with a controller.  Well i dont have a controller, so i guess that already puts me at a disadvantage.  Anyways i would like to list some issues i had and maybe get a response from some vets about their feelings on these particular aspects.

1. Graphics- The resolution needed to be changed from the beginning.  It was annoying that i could not do that while ingame.  Once i found the config file, it was a pretty simple fix.

2. Controls- OMG SOOOO ANNOYING.  Im trying very hard to get use to using my number pad to move but having played all my other mmos using wsad to move, you can see my frustration.  Also, not able to customize the keyboard?  That is total bullshit.  I even searched the Q&A thread and it said players were not able to customize keybindings.  If ANYBODY has a solution to this, PLEASE tell me.

3. Gameplay- very stiff movements and boring animations.  Even the videos i looked up online of end game content seemed to be similiar to what i experienced my first 2 hours of playing-standing around most of the time and autoattacking.  Only the raid bosses seemed to be lively and animated with fluid movements.  I hope its just my noobie outlook to the game but i really hope the gameplay becomes more interesting down the line.

4. Action bars- non-customizable and bland.  I wasnt expecting much, but coming from world of warcraft and everquest 2, i expected atleast SOMETHING to catch my eye. It seems like theres only the bare minimum in this game.  A tutorial about using your menu and action bars would have been helpful aswell.

5. starting area- Honestly, all i wanted to do was kill something the first thirty minutes.  instead, i spent my time running around, bombarded by walls of text.  I really dont care about the history of my starting area much, i just wanted to jump in and get some action. 

For all my bitching, i will say that the community i have experienced so far has been very helpful and kind to me.  Questions were answered respectfully and thoughtfully and some players went out of their way to help me during battle.

I will say that im starting to feel the game isn't for me, but i think i will give it a week before i make my final decision.

Originally posted by TheHavok

EVE has a harder learning curve then most games. 

Its still fun though

Originally posted by Housam

EVE....Woooo

EVE has a harder learning curve then most games. 

Originally posted by Sevenwind

 

 

No thanks, I currently enjoy DDO so no plans to quit at the moment.

As for the nerfs well. I kinda agree with them. I like a little bit of strategy when encountering a boss mob. If a tank just goes up and trips the mob and we all unleash on him and it dies quickly it's kinda bleh. Where is the fun in that? Loot isn't everything, I kinda want the loot to be worth the risk/encounter and a little bit of strategy in how we kill the main boss mob.

 

 

Very sensible response that many people need to keep in mind when they cry over nerfs.  This doesn't just apply to DDO but all mmorpgs.

You guys are so dramatic lol; stop beating a dead horse.

One huge difference between tbc and pre-tbc was the way epics were distributed.  Back in tbc, if somebody had epics, they WORKED for those epics (except when they implemented the new honor system which basically gave out epics for bg grinding, but in a way that is still work.)  When you saw somebody with any of the three tier armor or zg and aq gear, you knew they spent the time to get 39 other people with the right amount of healers, tanks, and dps (no easy task) and spent hours wiping or clearing so only ten percent of the raid could get items. 

Now, you hit 70, run av all day, and you can get epics.  Meh...it destroys the feeling of being superior to other players LOL.

Oh, id like to add that i definetly prefer a mouse and keyboard over a controller for my mmorpgs.  Playstation three bridges that cap between console and computer controls

I think the author of that article, Mr. Andrew Webster made a very big deal (Hence the article's title) out of nothing. 

From what i read, Smed has a good point about the playstation 3's hardware.  Designing a game to work on one model of hardware eliminates a huge amount of bugs and issues. 

Also, i would be very excited to play a playstation 3 mmorpg.  My computer has been outdated for years and i know by using my playstation 3 to play my favorite genre, i am saving hundreds of dollars that would otherwise be spent on computer upgrades.

So maybe take a step back from your bias opinions for a second and look at the article for what it is: a speculation on playstation 3 mmo success.

LOTRO will eventually have a bad community just like World of Warcraft's "immature" community.  I personally thing WoW's community has a wide variety of player personalities but i can definetly see why people would mark it as "immature". 

What most people dont take into account is the fact that WoW, when it first started out, had a fairly mature, fairly helpful community that liked to do random things together like have naked lines dances, form huge groups for screen shots, and also have naked gnome fight clubs.

But besides that, people were very helpful with questions and very eager to please one another.  I imagine LOTRO is the same.  It will probably stay that way until there are more and more veterans to the game who simple get annoyed with new members.   It happened in everquest 1 and 2, it happens (sort of) in Eve, It happenes, my guess, in most mmorpgs.  LOTRO will eventually get assholes. 

Originally posted by iamct2327

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Love all these people who think someone can beat WOW.

 

Have fun!

 

 

You fail just for bringing up WoW.  Seriously...not a single person brought up this game beating WoW.  You are the reasons why people hate WoW fanbois.  Try reading post before you speak your pathetic mind.

Ive reactived my eq2, wow, and eve accounts numerous times.  Ive also canceled this numerous times.  Every time i came back, i seemed to love the game more then i had previously.  Now i do not play any mmorpg in anticipation of WAR.

Originally posted by Godliest

I suppose AoC, WAR, Aion and the other upcoming games will steal some subscribers from WoW but I doubt we will see any major differences in WoW subscribers. WoW got a fanbase that's not very active in the MMORPG universe and thus they will not even bother to try out games that doesn't advertise themselves massively. I believe a continued WoW domination is to be expected.

I agree, WoW's fanbase is so big and diverse that I wouldn't even classify them as part of the mmorpg community simple because they are interested in world of warcraft and only world of warcraft.  Of course there a slim few who are interested in other mmorpgs, but the vast majority will only fit with WoW.

Its a fun game.  I no longer play because i started getting into call of duty 4 again, but i did have fun playing TR.  One of the things i really liked was the feeling that you were in the middle of a constant battle.  Huge mobs would spawn and everybody in the area would rush them :P  Ive played very few mmorpgs "in-depth" but the only other mass attacking with your fellow players ive experienced was pre-battlegrounds world of warcraft world pvp (south shore vs. tauren mill :) and planetside.  Ive heard the original star wars galaxies had this same "aspect" along with lineage 2 and shadowbane.

I will try that thanks

Meh, i still think Vanguard looks nicer then LOTRO.

Eve is another game that looks truly immersive to me.  Specially since theres one big server where everybody interacts.  I played the trial and was amazed at the beauty of the game. Floating in space and looking at all the space dust and how it interacts with the light was pretty awesome.  I know a poster mentioned it before, but ill say it again; I want a game where i can try anything i want whenever i want. (Sandbox?)

Sooo basically back to the immersion factor of this game.  Good? bad?

And your referring to sword of the new world as the greatest mmo so far?