Anather good  replay, ty. I think you hitted the spot, what i am looking for, sandbox type game, with economy taking big part.

Perfectly i would love to play UO, and that Kr is really making me interested, with enchanted graphics and all. But, like i see economy really cribblet :(. and really dont whant to join sinking ship :(

And i hear vanguard is really starting to kick in, and economy really growing and player based.

Now problem with trails... they about 2gb and something, and mine internet is limited to 20gb a mounth :(

( yes, in ireland we have it limited, and if we whana unlimited, we need pay alot of money)

So, i cant really waste 4gbs just to check it out, and newer come back :(

I sended my misses to shop to pick it up, but they didnt had it, and i sow it the last weak! grrr

And i am working all weekend so will have to wait till monday/tuesday to go to city to pick it up.

So if they planning on fixing it, and i heard alot of stuff fixed already, i will really stick to it, cant be arsed to wait for conan, or warhammer.

So hopefylly i am getting it next weak! And thanks again for all answers!

Nice replay m8. but that pvp change really did it :(. and i think you said magical word: "hardcore" pvp. Which was more realistic, and more adrenaline based, not like moust mmo now, with carebear systems :(. I think even runescape have closed down wilderness system!!! Whitch was a BLAST!

So anyway, main thing: is it still has economy? and need in crafter, more then need, in ather warrior or mage?

And is it true, that moust of biulding in the world there now, are empty and lifeless? :(

I whant to choose now, do i go to UO or Vanguard or EQ2,

And beng honest UO ( back 5 years) would be moust perfect game i whant to play, but now so much stuff changed, alot of veterans left :( . so making me doubt alot :(

Guys, cheers for all answers, and they are as goods, as they could be.

I dont mind playing and witing for it to get better, i am patient enought ( wow wasnt that good in beggining aswel, just the label, letted to look a bit less negative, if you know what i mean)

And i think i will give it ago, knowing they fixed alot of stuff,i think tommorow i will get my misses to get it in shop( i cant, i am working all day tommorow :( )

And in near future, i think they will fix all the rest of stuff.

but hopefully, its not sinking ship ;)

Iwas looking for new mmo for myslef couze sick of wow, nothing to do at lvl70, and 25 man raids are pure : .

So was looking lotr, eq2 maybe, and here comes Vanguard from nowhere...

I heard it had some bad beggining, but how is it now?

1. economy? Is it something to do when not having what to do. Or is it live economy? With need in crafters?

2. housing? i sow video of biulding houses, and collecting resourses for it! and it is so COOL! Is it instanced housing, or like UO?

3, Fun factor? Is there anything to to do, when you hit cap lvl? is there any end games? instances? And can you solo in it? or its like wow? hit 70, make few heroics, get some gear, and then sit in orggimar, and inspect ather people for 4 hours, till raid, and then find out that raid is cancelled that not enought people online, so you just do what you did 4 hours before)

4, Is it sinking ship? Or community growing? couze review in this website said very bad things. that they started with 200k subs, and after few months ended with 50k subs :(

 5. PVP, how does it work in there? "teddybearcare" system like WoW, or something more brutal, and more interesting, with some death pennaltys, and equipment loss? :) 

Ty lads for all info! hopefully ill choose this mmo! :D

Well they released warcraft3 and warcraft tft, and then wow, so why not making starcraft 2 and then world of starcraft!

Btw Its is true, blizzard really working on new mmo, so best guess is starcraft, couze d2 would be too close to wow.

Or blizzard can slap us with big fish in to our faces, and make some new name? 

so....... Now i dont trust those programs, couze moust of times, you cant play games with big fps, even when creators tell your hardware is for reccomended, so lads will i be able play it with:

quad 2.4ghz 3gb ram 8800gt?

I really remember when uo came, it was moust whanted yo play game, but in my countryi couldnt get it, and it was too expencive to play ( and when you are kid, and depend on your parents)

So it had it all. But is it all gone now? :(

1. housing. Is it more like Ghost town feeling, with all empty houses, collecting dust. From all those gammers who quited ages ago, and theyr houses just waiting to be destroyed, when theyr accounts 600 days expire.

2. Economy, i think not even 1 mmo had such briliant economy, where you really enjoyed to be a blacksmither, and were proud of it, had your own customer range. And you didnt killed even a bunny in all your life? ( moust mmos now have crafting, just as secondary stuff, when you have nothing to do, and moust of time use it to your own needs) Is it all gone?

3. Fun? when you had such a huge world, and were just interesting whats outside this small town? Find those dragons! Become a tammer, and search wilderness for those rare animals or even mounts! Just go trought ather player houses, and watch incradable biuldings, and theyr uniques items. Remember there were eventreasure maps! oh man...

So tell me guys is it all gone? If i come now in to UO:KR will i find it? Or populations just dieing little by little? :(

Suggestions, wouldnt  it be better to make a brand new shards, with brand new world, with no houses, and all people equal?And all economy , not deing little by little, but growing!?

So you whant to say, that in Eq2 pvp server, there only gankers outside safezone(town/city) but even those gankers had somehow to obtain gear...

So anyway pvp is being between factions? Good and evil? or its pure FFA?

I know Eve online, but thing is i am not spaceship geek :( ( i wish i would :D ), so i really like only person mmorpgs, Uo had somethink like that, but like i heard uo - dead town. :(

Helbreath aswel, there in pvp you would losse 1 item from you, no mattter, is it equiped or no, so we were buying those special eggs/stones. which drops instad of your items, those things were king of expencive, but that was really nice way of doing pvp

Well i was hardcore player of diablo2 lod. On battle net, i had MF sorca, MF barb, duel asa, duel barb, duel pala.... and so on and so on. And it was really fun, when you go mfing, getting better mf gear, and then get some actual cool stuuf, which you trade in trade1 trade 15 games :D. Ah old good times.( untill duppers came along)

So Hgl is like D2, only no fun :( . Luck system is very crapy ( dont whant to go to details now ) so no point getting luck gear. And  all items are randomly generated, which is VERY BAD! I remember , i knew almoust all names of items ( shako, storm, buriza, ik armor(moust rarest thing out here :D ) , thats short names btw. So point is, when you so it dropped, you were as happy as bull in mating season!

So its only has D2 grinding part, and repeatace part, but no fun part. Well atleast graphics good,

So in the end: not worth buying, and really not worth sub it. Btw, that new stonehedge thing is on lvl sacling like in oblivion, which makes this game more crapper unfortunatly :( .

Originally posted by nightphantom

 

Originally posted by baff

Seems exactly the same to me as it was on release day.

Same game, same MP synchronisation bugs, same memory leak crashes. Everything. The same.

Giving them more time isn't exactly going to help anything. They released the game late and still they hadn't fixed it. They have had all the time and money in the world to get it right already. Giving them more time and money is not the solution.

 

If you are buying this game expecting it to be any different from the demo, you wouldn't be all that smart. 

 

Are you really still getting the memory leak crashes? I haven't gotten those in more than 2 months...

Anyways, guess i can't change you're mind, but you can't say that they haven't improved anything since it's been released. They've improved so many things that it really is a decent game now.

I do get them aswell, i was so pissed once, when legendarybattery dropped, and it crashed :(.

Now to answer on theme:

I will really look more attention on new projects, going to look more reviews and wait a bit, not liike this time, as soons as it came out, i ran to shop to get it, only becouse it had a tag: diablo2 like. In the end, very dissapointed.

The only 1 thing that i loved about game: graphic and physics. Really nicely done. But slashing same mobs over and over till 50.

so housing is not that fun anymore? :( sad, how such good game so wrong :( . So is there still fun to have a house? or it lost its charm?

So i am former wow gamer ( put down those rotten tomatoes, i liked wow only becouse i loved wc3 and wc3tft lore ) . And i realised that i hate 25man raiding, and mine misses, and my work hate them aswel. And outside that, there is nothing to do! Even runescape is better, atleast there, you always had what to do.

I did some resourche, and finded out that Eq2 would really suit me, so not going to bother you with ather questions.

Anyway, i really enjoy pve, BUT i enjoy some nice pvp, And as pvp i mean , no "Teddybearcare" system like in wow. So when i kill some one, can you get something really nice from your victim? or moust poeple in pvp, carry only theyr "family jewels" with em selfs? ( still think Runescape wilderness/duel stake systems best pvp in all mmos)

I know you have divided pvp/pve servers. and that in pve servers there IS NO PVP at all :(. So how does it work in pvp servers, can you still do all pve, raiding,,crafting, leveling by killing mobs, and questing? Still expect having some instance runs with firends?end game? Or is it, only pvp, and that it?

And i am eu player aswel, and theres only a few servers, which are not pvp aswel :(, we dont even have rp servers :( . So i will have to go Usa servers, and suffer from lagg?

Ty guys, dont flash me for spelling mistakes, i do live in ireland, but english is not mine native language