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Originally posted by TJixlee If they want to toss up a busty lady with a happy trail and a little bush showing, it's no worse than the hard nipples in armor that they've already had advertised on this site, though... I thought most dudes aren't into girls with happy trails and a lot of hair down there? But hey, for serious, if it's your thing that's cool with me too.
Unfortunately they took down the gay pirate though. I'm sorta bummed. |
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Originally posted by adam_nox
Hey, I don't care if he's gay. He can make out with the ninja. More eyecandy for me. |
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Nope, you'l deal with it. As a female gamer, I have to be bombarded with sexualized gaming ads all the time that feature unrealistic female body proportions and attributes. And plenty of times it's been on this website, so stfu and get over it, I hate double standards. It's about damned time I get a little eyecandy too, though I'm not digging his face.
Still. That man bush and dem abs. GRROOOOWL me gusta. That's a talented artist. |
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Empire not suitable for many Teens
General Discussion « Star Wars: The Old Republic 11/25/11 8:07:37 AM
You can kind of tell who the kids are in this argument "YOU AREN'T THE BOSS OF ME! PARENTS SHOULD LET KIDS WATCH/DO WHATEVER THEY WANT OR THE KIDS WILL RESENT THEM!"
Sure, they will.... while they are kids. And then later, once they're old enough and wise enough to look back and realize why their parents told them "Nah, 10 is too young to be playing Grand Theft Auto son," they may actually be thankful they had parents that gave a crap enough about them to be active parents, unlike so many of this new parent generation that just plop their kids in front of a computer, hand them a Happy Meal and tell them to find a video game to play.
My parents wouldn't let me watch certain movies until I was of a certain age (video games back in those days were ALL for kids so no issue there). Do I hold some horrible grudge against them? Am I pissed I didn't go get to hang out with my friends every time I demanded it? Am I dysfunctional, sheltered, a prude? Nope. I'm glad they put some limits on me as a kid - without them, I would have probably turned out like so many of my friends who had "cool" parents that let them do anything they wanted; still living at home, unemployed and with no sense of responsibility.
That being said, TOR -is- pretty tamesauce comapred to most video games and TV shows (not that I agree with half of the TV or video games being marketed to kids, mind you) BUT that's a parent's call, and they -should- take the time to make that call and not just assume Billy and Suzy are mentally mature enough to make every choice for themselves. Kids aren't mentally mature enough - that's not an insult, it's the truth. The brain takes time to mature, learn and understand. That's what childhood is for, and that's why parents are supposed to protect, guide and teach their kids. |
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Looking for a good F2P game as I'm currently broke and don't want to waste the money on a sub game. I've played LOTRO - never could get into it, AOC same thing. I play EQ2 on and off but don't know how worth it the free to play version is. Also play WoW a lot (yeah I know) and have tried just about everything on the P2P market at one time or another.
I'd really like a game where I can just play casually with my spouse and level to max without having to buy from a cash shop. I don't much care about end game or having elite gear right now. I'm too busy to get into anything hardcore but I like a little distraction in the evening when I'm bored.
Any suggestions? |
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There's "borrowing" ideas from another game, and then there's literally cut and pasting them from another game. This game is a very poorly done CUT AND PASTE of WoW. Literally right down to the graphic engine, the talent trees, the icons, EVERYTHING. My husband and I got a good laugh out of it. |
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Well, I tried for a while again today. I still think the basic idea of the game was neat and I like the amount of work the devs have put into this, but the gameplay is just too wooden and the graphics even at max settings make my eyes hurt. Matter of taste, I know, but I really can't stand looking at them. So I uninstalled and will be waiting for a different mmo that will hopefully grab me a bit better than this one. I see a lot of hype on these (and other) forums but I just didn't see much to this game I haven't seen elsewhere (besides the theme, which I like a lot, and the class-less system which is good) personally. Then again, I didn't see much to Aion, LOTRO or WAR either so I am probably a bit hard to please and rather picky. Good luck to all those sticking around. Maybe in a year or so after they clean it up a bit I'll give it another shot. |
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Against my better judgement I bought the game, and like so many other games before I felt that gut feeling of "don't do it," I'm pretty dissapointed. Mind you, this isn't a troll, and maybe someone can give me some insight as to just what I might be missing here. Frankly any game I dump 50 bucks on I WANT to like and so I'm still more than willing to give FE a chance.
So far this is what I've seen in the past few days of playing.
Cons: - Dated graphics. Yes folks, they are pretty bad. At least to me. It's not the barren landscape or the shades of brown, it's the animations and models that do it. It's true that pretty graphics don't a good game make (just look at Aion) but they certainly COULD polish these up a bit. I do run this game at Med-High settings and it still looks rather poor, like a game from the early 2000's. I know it's an indie company that doesn't have the cash and resources like the big studios,but some improvements could still be made. - Poor mob AI. We all know that MMO's aren't known for great mob AI. However from what I've seen in FE, the AI here is even more sub-par than normal for the genre. Heck, you can practically run right up to an agro mob and it won't do anything for a good few seconds. Half the time they don't even seem to attack despite being supposedly aggressive mobs. When you shoot at them, sometimes they react, sometimes they just stand there. I'm not asking for a glorious AI system here, but this one is pretty bad in my opinion. - Same basic structure as most other MMO's out there. Very little "sandbox" about it, frankly - except for the character build system which I will touch on in a minute. You have the options of PVE questing, farming, and PVP. Farming is rather tedious as it is in all MMO's and I still haven't even crafted anything remotely useful despite being out there farming nods and mobs for materials for a few hours straight. Eh. The quests are pretty standard... go kill xx of these, go take this item over there...etc. PVP I haven't tried yet, admittedly, so I can't say anything on that. - Somewhat clunky gameplay. I've played both traditional 3rd person MMO's and I've played FPS games that require you to aim and shoot. But everything I do in FE feels... sorta stiff and laggy. The combat feels wooden and stiff to me. There is no hit collision when you land a blow on a mob, and the controls are a little awkward. Pressing tab all the time gets a little irksome.
Pros: - Good general idea. I like the whole post apoc. theme and I even like the world setting, despite the poor graphic quality. - Crafting almost anything you can equip. I like this idea a lot, but man it takes a lot of farming to get the mats to craft anything useful. - Vehicles that don't magically fit into your pocket. - The different factions you can join - nice basic variety, even though I've heard others say they don't "mean" much at this point in time. I still like the fact I can go be some eco-terrorist or anarchist or military enforcer at my own discretion, rather than being tossed into a faction based on class or race. - FPS + targeting idea is a nice feature. It just needs to be made more fluent and not so clunky and wooden, IMHO. - Classless character and choosing your own path. Self explanitory.
So now I have to ask... this game is getting good ratings. I kind of wonder why. I mean, I see the potential in a game like this, but the controls and combat feel so wooden, the farming requirements are atrocious (unless there's some method I'm missing) and the graphics are pretty awful, and there's really not much more "sandbox" to it than any standard MMO. There are no alternate ways to progress through diplomacy or owning your own shop, etc, no politics other than seemingly meaningless factions (though there is huge potential there of course) and generally a lot of unrealized or unutilized opportunities here. Am I missing something? Am I not playing this game right? Or is it really just either not for me or being a little -too- overhyped? |
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So I tried it despite my gut feelings and just on the pretense everyone seems to be giving it rave reviews.
And I'm left wondering just -why- it's getting those reviews. Now I did like the initial idea a lot. I've always thought a Mad-Max-ish game would be awesome and I think the people behind this game had a good basic idea but...
Yeah. The graphics really are pretty bad. I guess some people might like them but to me it looks like something from the early 2000's and is sub-par to even EQ2, which is one of the ugliest games I've ever played. I could have overlooked the poor graphics, but everything in this game feels really clunky. Movement, combat, everything... again, it really does feel like a game made 10 years ago with that technology of the early 00's. Mob AI seems non-existent, it's even less than most MMO's, and so far it really is just the same old "go out and level, craft, and farm" that I've found in any other theme-park MMO... so I'm not sure where the sandbox part comes in at ALL so far minus the whole "pick your own build" idea, which is admittedly a good one. The game has some potential, but it would take a lot of bug fixing, getting rid of the clunkiness of basic gameplay, and doing something with the mob AI to where it doesn't feel like you're shooting or beating on cardboard cutouts that hardly seem to react even when you run right up to them and whack them with a board. Updating the graphics wouldn't be a bad idea either. I get that this is supposed to be a bleak landscape and all... but it really does not look up to par with -any- other MMO that's been released within the past 5 years, and like it or not graphics are a crucial selling point to many gamers.
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Originally posted by cyrana
Almost never is there anything new.
Hence why I am WAITING for an MMO that does offer something new. That's why I came to ask about this game, because the term "sandbox" was used in describing it. I'm not bashing the game, it's probably just not my thing if it's following the usual MMO template, is all. |
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Originally posted by Strap
Well, if you are put off by a forum troll, then you are probably not ready to take advantage of what FE has to offer... kind of a pity as a LOT of us feel FE is the most refreshing game to come onto the mmo scene for a long time.
Regarding RP in Fallen Earth, I think people are just getting to know the game at the moment and an RP community will grow steadily. Just the other night someone posted if there was interest in an RP guild he was thinking of forming. I responded and we chatted a while. He said he'd had 5 other responses from just one comment in regional chat - and that was a faction specific RP guild.
If you'd like to make a decent, informed decision I'd head to the official site and read about the factions and the skill system for starters. I'm beginning to see that forums such as these are difficult to use for those truly wanting information. You could also ask people who do enjoy FE why they like it... that might give you some insight. In fact, there are quite a few threads which already answer this question.
I wasn't "put off" by what the supposed troll said. I was trying to see if the game had a bit more to offer than most MMO's. So far it seems that most people here have said that you can craft, farm, or quest. Which currently I can sort of do in the other MMO's I already own, so for now I'll hold off buying another one that offers those same things. I was asking if there was -more- to this game than crafting, questing or farming. If there's not, that doesn't mean it's a bad game, but I'm hoping for something a little more innovative and less same ol' stuff. That's all. |
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Hm, so less sandbox than what I've initially heard via the grapevine, with somewhat typical quest/farm/grind set up, but open class development and (so far) limited RP options?
I think I'll wait on this one a little longer and see how it progresses. I just really don't want to spend more money on another game I end up sticking in the computer game box in the closet and never looking at again :/ so many of those these last 2 years.
Thanks for the replies. |
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I hear this game is rather sandbox, which is nice. However, before I dump 50 bucks into it (I've been duped enough by recent MMO's to do that again ) I want to clear up a few concerns and questions first.
Firstly - I understand that this game has a lot of solo and duo play, which is good - but to what extent can you solo or duo (spouse is also mildly interested and may play )? How much of a "sandbox" is it, and at end game does it follow the formula of either farm, craft, or raid - or are there other gameplay options? Just how awful are the graphics and the bugs? Screenshots often don't do a game justice so I'd like to know firsthand if they are really subpar, average, or decent graphics. I know that graphics don't make a game good or bad, but I really couldn't stand the graphics in say.... EQ2 or Aion. One was way too sparkly pretty and the other just had awful art design and animations (EQ2) Lastly, how's the RP community? I'm a casual RPer and it seems that a post apoc. world would be a great setting for some roleplay, but I know MMO's often have a distinct lack of an RP community.
Thanks in advance |
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The hype has mostly come from the rabid Aion fankids that are screaming about how new, exciting, and revolutionary this game is and how it trumps all other games and has the best graphics EVAR and...
yeah. They've taken a fairly average (but solid, I'll admit that) game and tried to make it a godsend, and woe to those who don't agree.
Don't feel bad. I knew within the first few hours I wasn't going to like the game either. There'll be others coming out that might hold your interest a little better. |
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Originally posted by grandpagamer Your right, all game companies should suck people in with the meat of the game being in the first 20 levels and an empty experience after that. lol you sir are hilarious with your logic.
Or they could, you know, make a solid game start to finish. *GASP* The concept!! Ohnoes! |
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Originally posted by -aLpHa-
Sadly you do have a point. |
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Originally posted by supbro
How are you meant to get anything out of an MMO after only playing it for 30mins?? This why people like you shouldn't be allowed in a beta. Also they had to add 4 more beta servers since last CB4, i guess that "shiny" experience hasn't worn off yet lol
Oh you're right. Only rabid fanbois should be allowed to beta test a game. That way the devs only get shining reviews and nothing ever gets fixed if the game itself is rotten or needs work.
Yeah.... great idea!
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/shrug
We'll see. |
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Be that as it may, it's plain to see that it is going to lack staying power for quite a few players. Trying to deny the fact is folly. If a goodly number of people are sick of it after four beta weekends, what about in 3 months after release? I just don't think it brings enough to the table to keep half its numbers playing for more than a few months, at most. |
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The OP and several others here have figured out what I discovered within the first 30 minutes of gameplay.
I suspect others will soon follow suit after the whole "sparkly shiney new MMO" syndrome wears off. |
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