1) Funcom

2) SOE

3) EA

Bad game is still a bad game even if its price is reduced.
Although there are people saying that DA2 is "not a bad game", I never saw anyone saying "it is not a bad cRPG. I think buying it is only worth it if you like the whole "Prince-of-Persia-like" style of arcade gameplay of DA2 and do not expect the game to shine in its RPG-aspects (character customization, development, party management, itemization, exploration, non linear questing etc.).
It may be a so-so video game but it is piss-poor cRPG.

They just gave one award to every game to not offend any of the precious advertisers... Fraudulent business, those awards don't mean shit. Just a lure fore drones to click the page and increase the view count.

That what this is all about, have no illusions. 

DJ30 and SP500 CFDs.

The last thing out there able to deliver some thrill...

I like the idea a lot, do hope there will be some kind of incent for high lvl characters to come back and revisit the low level areas. I do wonder thou what happens with the high level weapons when this sidekick system kicks in? Do they scale down somehow ?

too little;

too late;

too greedy.

Did you subscribe to the game?  I am not sure what the terms of F2P for AoC are, but majority of the F2P games (I remember Lotro and Champions Online) list customers support as only available for those who pay subscription fee.

FFS there is like ten or more threads about it already....

I fear about the endgame. The talk at PAX about the endgame made me very unsure about it. Just seems to me as not enough.

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by Vallador

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by Vallador

Originally posted by Celcius ...

The whole pre-order and pricing circus? So what you are saying is that you think that EA pricing the standard copy of the game at the same price that GW 2 will be when it launches is going to result in a poor quality game just because EA is publishing it? Last I checked, this was a Bioware game. 

I find that pretty amusing, especially when NC Soft does not exactly have a strong track record. But GW 2 is not an NC Soft game, it is an ArenaNet game. The same can be said about SWTOR not being an EA game.

Dude..Just what it says: The whole pre-order and pricing circus reminded me that this is an EA game. No word about any CEs or price comparison... I have bad experience with EA games and last time I checked EA owned Bioware. And both games made by Bioware since the acquisition (ME2 and DA2) did not impress me at all. I found them both oversimplified (go figure...). 

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by Vallador

Originally posted by Celcius

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B2P games and MMORPGs have had collector's editions and digital versions for years now with different pricing...what makes this different? You don't have to buy the collector's edition, it does not give you an advantage over anyone. Some people would consider it a waste of money. 

Why do you bring up CE? I never mentioned it.

I never bought one and I never will. All I said is that I usually regret buying EA games as I find them oversimplified and as much as I love some SWOTOR features (whole companion system, dialogs, moral system or the fact that game instances are only 4 ppl based) I am afraid the great ideas will be "streamlined" as they usually are in EA games. This is their trademark for me - oversimplified games (with great graphic and even better trailers/intros, but often almost arcade-like game play).

I hope I am wrong.

Originally posted by Celcius

Originally posted by Vallador

I will buy GW 2 for sure - B2P is something I don't think I can go wrong with.

I was planning to buy SWOTOR, even applied to a guild already, but after seeing the whole pre-order and pricing circus I re-realized it is an EA's game and I should not expect a miracle. Most probably it will be oversimplified to cater the biggest (dumbest or the youngest - take your pick) player base and their CC.So I decided to wait for the guild mates impressions before buying it.

You expect GW2 to not have something along the same lines....? 

Anyways I am getting both. If I had to choose one though it would be SWTOR. GW 2 will only be fun for a month or two for me since the end game is not progression based. I might pickup the expansions when they come out though, no clue at this point. 

Yeah, it may be but I do not demand the same quality from B2P game as I expect from subscription-based one.

I will buy GW 2 for sure - B2P is something I don't think I can go wrong with.

I was planning to buy SWOTOR, even applied to a guild already, but after seeing the whole pre-order and pricing circus I re-realized it is an EA's game and I should not expect a miracle. Most probably it will be oversimplified to cater the biggest (dumbest or the youngest - take your pick) player base and their CC.So I decided to wait for the guild mates impressions before buying it.

No, thanks. There is full spectrum of F2P games from PVP oriented AoC to decent PvE focused LOTRO with huge variety of more or less popular games in between, so I wont even bother downloading this one. Meh.

Guild Wars 2

EA tends to "streamline" (oversimplify) their products to make it "more accessible" and I usually get bored with their games very quickly. If you hope that Bioware's experience with RPG genre will prevent this - better take a look at DA II.

Some of you guys must understand that video gaming is crossing from the teenager hobby sphere to the adult hobby realm. And in the case of adult hobbys it has always been all about money. The real money. The guy who can spend more cash on his hobby will have better and bigger stamp/coins/M:TG cards collection etc. than the guys who can spend less. It is freaking normal and why the virtual world should be any different? It was different so far, as it was child-oriented one time paid product or with some small subscription attached. Simply because  child/teenager budget is very limited. But that changes. Now more and more adults are playing video games and their supply of cash is much bigger.
And as much as I despise micro-transaction system, which creates false/scam economy of endless virtual supply monoplized by the game developer, I actually love Blizzard's idea of players trading items with each other.
Who's unhappy with it?
Let see: a seller is happy, as he sold whatever he wanted to sell, a buyer is happy as he bought whatever he wanted to buy, Blizzard is happy as he made money on the transaction, IRS is happy as he got more money from happy Blizzard and even a chinese gold farmer is happy, as he still can farm his gold and sell it for real dough, but this time without being afraid of getting banned...So who is unhappy?
The only unhappy guy I see is the one in the corner, who can't sleep at night if he sees someone with better gear than his and who used to make up for his real-world inferiority complex with the virtual achievements. Every one else will simply enjoy hacking and slashing virtual monsters...

For solo/small group play I found warden to be the most enjoyable choice. For 6+ instances/skirmishes I much more prefered any other class over warden tbh. The reason is that even a small lag can screw the gambit sequence which can result in a wipe rather easily.

I don't think this game is anyhow more or less hyped than any other not-so-soon-to-be-released game. I think the excitements about the horror setting are toned down by the terrible reputation Funcom earned by false advertising Age of Conan. Overall it will most likely develop the same way it does every time: the closer to the release the more hyped the game will be until 3 month later barely anyone will mention it elsewhere than on the publishers forum.

They can do whatever they want with their game. And whatever they do  millions will play it anyway, few will cry on forums here and there, but that's how it is.
As long as they don't sell the gear them self I do not see a problem anyway.

Outraged, that the guy with more cash will have better gear than you? Well... he already has better car, house and better health insurance than you, so why should he stay behind with a virtual sword and helmet??? It' just unnatural and against the evolution... :))

If this is their model of bussines from the start then yes, I am ok with it. Whoever does not like it, dont need to buy the game.

But if they introduce it at some point in a game that was previously free from it then I quit the game. Same goes for cash stores.