Originally posted by Lork

If anyone can give me a 21 day free trial, email me at Pearljam1871@yahoo.com

Sent. Sorry for the delay, I was asleep, heh.

Originally posted by Gkarn

Originally posted by JuJutsu

Originally posted by Dekapitator

Who's Manuel?

 

A notorious control freak. He has to micro-manage everything.

 

He also does my lawn.

Mine too. I asked him if I could hire him to control my ship, and he said si. So, yes, there is Manuel control. Gonna cost you a trip to Home Depot and 3 bucks an hour though. He also said I could get Jesus control and Maria control for the same price.

I have 3 invites left for this month. If you upgrade your account to a paying account, I will make sure that you have a very nice starting bonus. :P

Originally posted by raystantz

Yeah, most MMO players of today however aren't the "MMO players" I think I was talking about. There are two distinct groups now. The WoW generation and the Pre WoW generation. I for one hate soloing ALL THE TIME. But, I like to be able to do it when I need to. The WoW generation wants to be able to solo the entire game and reap all the rewards of grouping without having to group. This is where I see there is a problem.

The problem is that the Pre-WoW generation is, at best, about a million strong these days. The WoW generation is kicking that up around 11-12million. So, unless they pull a Finland, the pre-WoW group is going to lose the war.

Originally posted by raystantz

 Rally, I agree with that but as I said much of that is due to Blizzard and them bringing solo play to the forefront. If you are from the EQ generation like myself.. the demographic at that time was group play. I enjoy being able to solo when I can't play for a long period, but interaction with others is why I play MMO's. There just needs to be a balance between the two.. too little of one or the other is a bad thing. And, geez Fallen Earth takes forever to patch. I already downloaded and patched DDO and have been playing and I started that AFTER Fallen Earth.

I do agree, but you stated that most players want to group, which, these days, is untrue. And unfortunatly, MMO's that want to make cash want to cater to the lowest common denomenator to make as much cash as possible.

Originally posted by raystantz

The thing about is... most people who play MMO's don't play them to solo. They play them because they want to play with others. It would be easier for me to play a single player rpg, if I wanted to solo all the time. I think they need MORE group content in my opinion. But I also think they need to balance that out with things you can do by yourself so your not sitting around doing nothing when you can't find a group. I don't want JUST solo content, but I don't want JUST group content either. The complicated content should be group oriented, and there should be an alternative to those things for solo players, but not to the extent where noone ever groups because its just easier to solo. 

FF14 I believe is trying to do this.. we'll see if they succeed.

Actually, MMO player demographics show that the bulk actually want to solo, and a very large chunk want nothing to do with grouping unless it is with in real life friends or family.

Originally posted by drel

Originally posted by raystantz

There are no MMO's where you can do end game content solo. So you could literally play any mmo. You have to group for raids. And as of now, thats really the only thing there is to do in most MMO's at high level.

 

It really kinda sucks when you think that you cannot end game without being forced into a group. The ability to solo in mmo's has almost disappeared.

Wait... What? Soloing in MMO's is more common than ever. Please name a single MMO, ever, that you could solo end game? That is going to be one empty list.

I edited it for you, in case you would like to do the same :P

*sweeps this post under the rug to spare The Hatter*

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Wait - devs lie?

Well, it's possible, I suppose, but they would pretty much destroy any credibility they have left (which, frankly, isn't much).

As much as I love playing Starcraft, I don't see a lot of potential in an RPG when so many of the units are vehicles of some sort. Am I going to roll a Battlecruiser or a Siege Tank?

Blizzard did a good job turning Warcraft into an MMO, but Starcraft would be more difficult.

I honestly think it will either be a superhero game (which I think they would do very well) or GTA-type game. I would prefer horror to the latter, but it's a niche market and I don;t think that is at all likely.

 

For all we know, it could be a classless game. You pick your race, and pick your own thing from there. So, you are Terran, and could go on to drive/pilot any of the vehicles. Zerg would be more difficult... But it they worked it at a mutation angle, that could be done as well. Or, since Zerg units were often known for being cannon fodder, disposible units, maybe you can respawn as a different unit type upon death? It would make for some dynamic play.

Originally posted by Warjin

I think Blizzard is lying to us, I think from a business point of view Blizzards next MMO will in fact be Starcraft, I think the whole new IP hype is just that, Hype.. to throw people off from digging and to prevent leaks.

Starcraft as a mmo would work for blizzard,  for 1 they will not be steping on there toes with a sci fi mmo, another reason is that the next wave of BIG AAA mmos will be sci fi, fantasy is yesterdays news. Starcraft as a mmo will in fact go head to head with STO,and Swtor and Lore wise Starcraft has just as much lore to go story vs story with Star "Insert" .

Another thing to think about is Blizzard used Warcraft 3 as a buffer for there new uncoming World of Warcraft mmo, just as they are going to do with starcraft 2.

Heres some Lore

http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/StarCraft_Wiki

Thoughts?

So... A fairly recent video game (comparitively) that was not lore heavy to begin with (being an RTS) has as much, or maybe even more than two IP's that have had more than a handful of movies, tv show spinoffs, comic books, standard books, and more video games than I can count? Really? Now, don't get me wrong, Starcraft is a great game, and I would love to see an MMO made of it, but you are high if you think it has even CLOSE to the lore behind it that Star Trek or Star Wars does.

Originally posted by Gabby-air

Cryengine 3 or Unigine would be my pick, unreal isnt half that bad either but it has some problems and the engine i absolutely hate is havok...seriously codemasters use it for every single game of theirs and they look ugly.

Maybe I am thinking of the wrong thing, but isn't Havok a physics system? Or is there an engine as well?

Originally posted by ethion

This is only available on a couple servers.

Nice, I actually never noticed that it was only Vox and the Bazaar. However, being that you can transfer chars from server to server, it is still a problem for any server, as I can buy one on Vox, then transfer him, with items and gold, to any of the others.

Originally posted by Legato89

Blizzard. Im sure the suits don't like hearing "Soon" too much and they have internal deadlines which they always fail to meet. Only when they are absolutely sure they are going to make a deadline do they announce one.

Maybe now. But WoW was delayed several times. If I remember correctly, Burning Crusade was as well. And god knows how long they have been working on Starcraft II....

Since the first dev announced a release date, games in general have been missing them. It even happens to movies. MMO's are special though, as they take a lot more work and time, and have a much larger margin for error. A "small" mistake can cost a dev company months.

I have 4 inactive accounts. Not a single mail. Sounds like a scam.

Originally posted by cukimunga

LOL no offense dude but where have you been that was like 2 years ago when  that happened.   The engine I would like to see used would be an updated version of GTA 4's engine. 

I would like to see GTA4's engine optimized first though. It is crazy inefficient on PC.

I would and have. EQ1 Warrior. :P Besides, half the classes out there only have 4 skills you actually use anyway. Most of the others are not for your spec, not for your weapon, circumstantial to the point you dont use them, or just downright too much of a bitch to use.

Originally posted by Tardcore

Originally posted by Ruyn

One thing straight.  It's not a pay to play beta.  It's a pre-order.  With the pre-order you have access to beta and play for free.  When the game releases you will have your free month as well.

 

I'm curious, can anyone get into beta or just people who pre order the game?

Currently? Just people that pre-order.

I think MO takes a special mindset. Read over the features on it, and if even one seems bad to you, don't bother. No need for another "I paid 35euro for this crap?" post.