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Hi All,

I'm going to be buying ESO but I have a few questions before I take the plunge...

Firstly, with the Explorer's Pack reward for pre-ordering - It says it lets you play any of the 9 races in any alliance. Is this a big advantage?

How does it play on PC? Does anyone have yearnings for their Xbox 360 controller? I usually play MMO's on the pc but I'm thinking PS4 or XB1 for this one as Skyrim played so well on console.

Does anyone know if it will be possible to pre-order the digital Imperial Edition on PS4 or XB1? Consoles don't usually allow purchasing of games prior to release. (This means I will have to forego the Explorer Pack - hence my first question).

My only worry if I chose to play it on a console would be the world population might be a little low - as both machines are only recently out and could be lacking in player numbers.

Thanks for the help.


Originally posted by angzt

bottom line:


The company reported an operating profit of $371 million, up 175% from a year ago.

This doesn't necessarily mean that they are making more revenue, It could be they are not spending enough! i.e. They need to get more games out of the door, specifically new IP.

Agree that GW2 is boring, I pre-ordered and played in the beta, not impressed at all in fact wish I could get my money back.

Can't believe that Blizz think that the downturn is purely due to the expansion cycle and DIII? Surely they aren't that naive, like DIII is the only game out there. They've taken a great game and progressively ruined it with their obsession with class balancing and simplifying the whole game down. I cancelled my sub the second the fleshed out the detail on MoP, it's just another step further away from the game I want to play, the game I feel nostalgic about and a step too far for me.

I have a lot of good memories of my time in WoW and I was going to say that it's time to move on but in fact it's the game that's moved on - if they wound the clock back I would still subscribe.

BOriginally posted by stiz4shiz

I'll always hold a special place in my heart for WoW, it's where I cut my MMO teeth and it's where I met alot of the online gamers I still play with to this day. I'll never forget the first impressions it left on me, I knew I was in love when as a lowbie Night Elf I arrived in Auberdine for the 1st time to see an entire Horde Guild destroying it and killing every quest giver I needed to talk to, but I wasn't mad, I was just blown away that something like that could actually take place... I literally called everyone I knew that night to tell them I had found the perfect game. Unfortunately I believe WoW's own popularity is what drove it downhill for gamers like me. Every "improvement" aimed at the growing number of new players they implemented,  just seemed to be taking away everything I loved about the game. Making the journey to Ironforge as a lowbie Night Elf was almost like a rite of passage, ya just stroll down to the dock and catch a ride to Stormwind...where is the fun in that? Questing as a newbie was one of the most satisfying gaming experiences I can remember, the fact that not everything was just laid out in front of you made it seem much more rewarding when you finally completed it and exploring the huge, beautiful persistant world keep me in awe for quite ya just look at the map and run straight to it. And don't even get me started on the cross-server LFG que...I'd be willing to bet alot of the newer WoW players have no idea where most of the instance entrances are anymore,  I remember not even entering instances that we had planned to run because the fight with the Horde outside lasted hours..and was more fun!! And oh man, when you started talking about the Southshore Vs. Tarren Mill battles, it almost made me log in and re-activate my subscription, I couldn't tell you how many hours of my lvl 60 days were spent at Tarren Mill beckoning the Horde to come out and play...but then I rememberded all I'd be doing is standing in town waiting on the instance or BG que...I miss the old WoW and I don't think the newer WoW will ever hold a candle to what it once was...sadly :(

Basically I agree with this 100%. WoW is just too disposble now and optimised for the min-maxers. Everything is so easy it has more in common with some social game of Facebook than the WoW most of us get nostalgic about.

Give us our talents back, take out all the instant travel for none-mages, make us travel to instances, capitalise on open-world pvp and town radis - don't kill them, make journeys across continents feel epic again and have less instanced content all together and we still won't have wound the clock back far enough.

I often feel nostalgic and think about renewing my sub but unltimately the game has changed so much, and is changing once more with MoP that any more time spent in Azeroth is pointless. MoP was the final straw for me and there can be no going back now.

I have many fond memories of my time in WoW, playing with real-wrold friends and meeting new, but for me it reached its pinacle during TBC.

It wasn't a perfect expansion by any means, don't get me wrong, but it had the potential there to go on to great things. For my money Blizz took it in the wrong direction with WotLK and went even further down that line with Cata.

I have played through to level 85 on 7 characters but what they have on the cards with Mists of Pandaria holds absolutely no interest for me and wild horses could not drag me back. It's just more of the same and getting even further away from the game I want to play, and that's even if I did get on-board with the whole kung-fu panda thing and the talent-tree revamp (which I do not). It's all too disposable now and set up for immediate gratification.

However, if they were to ever offer a Vanilla server - or a server where you could play with game developed up to the expansion of your choice that would be interesting.

For now I'm plodding on with LOTRO on free-to-play waiting on GW2 coming out at the end of August with one eye on Planetside 2. I think I can safely say my WoW days are behind me, the Azeroth I miss doesn't exist any more.



Anyone have a loose ETA for this game yet?

The only way to take BoA stuff realm to realm is with a character transfer. You can send cross faction already if that helps.

Originally posted by Kurtz13

Legend of Mir. 


A Chinese 2D game played for some reason by primarily British folk. Only about 2k people in the game, pretty close knit community. 


Game still had some awesome features that I haven't found yet today. Had 2 main bosses. To get to 1 you had to get through a maze. To get to the main boss, you had to traverse these random rooms, each one with 4 doors. Some were empty, some full of enemies. Resembled the movie The Cube. 

Legend of Mir here too. For all its faults this is the game that gave me the MMO bug. It has a lot to answer for =).

It's still around now as a F2P MMO. but logging on kind of kills the nostalgia as the graphics are just terrible. The gameplay is still addictive though lol.

Originally posted by Haradeas

Very amusing and honest writing ^^


for the rest ... lol ... anyhow,  not gonna waste my breath further. Something did happen that they got your account but meh.. playing for 15 years mmorgps , never ever once I got compromised ( being an IT specialist helps I guess :p )

Anyhow hope you get all your stuff back , blizz improved rather a lot on that matter so relax get a drink ^^

To be honest, being an IT specialist won't help you one jot. Not when the hacking could possibly be coming from the back end.
I've been playing this game for almost 6 years now and been 'hacked' once 6 months ago.
 It's a very similar tale to the OP and I can say categorically with 100% certainty that my pc was clean and secure (still is).
I downloaded the free authenticator for my iPhone and have not had any repeat 'hackings' since. Can't recommend it highly enough for peace of mind.
I mean how far do people have to go to play an online game? I was doing all of the following and more:
- My WoW login email and password are unique to WoW - I have separate emails for each game that I play.
- I never use the same email and password for forums and fan websites that I do for game log-ins.
- When accessing my WoW account through the website I always go manually through my own link - I never click links in emails for things such as this as an added safe guard against phishing.
- My AV was fully up to date and did daily scans (whilst annoying you can't conveniently plan to get a trojan just before your weekly scan).
- I'm behind both hardware and software firewalls
- Windows is always fully up to date.
- My home PC that I use to game on and make payments is not used for anything else but that. I have a separate pc for browsing the web, etc. and it's not like I visit dubious sites anyway - I'm 30+ not 16.
- I don't download torrents or use any kind or pirated or cracked software.
- My account info has never been shared.
- I have never been phished.
All the above effectively rules out any kind of virus or trojan infection. However, no normal AV, no matter how well thought of, can find a root kit virus.
The only way to find a root kit is to notice the regular and suspicious activity and run programs such as GMER and Malware Bytes and know what you are looking for. The results from the GMER scans will still often not tell you directly that you have a root kit but you can usually read between the lines and act on the side of caution. The only safe way to remove any virus, trojan or root kit is to do a full reformat.
I know 100% for certain that I don't not have any kind 'infection'. This leaves very few options for how they got access to my account and personally I don't think Blizzard or their system is 101% infallible, or any other company for that matter.
I went into Cataclysm determined not to like it. They were messing with the map and making some pretty broad changes to the 0-60 game which didn't all sound like great decisions. However on rerolling another alt and trying it I got to say I'm loving the new feel.
Graphically Azeroth has had quite a boost, not just in resolution but in particle effects and atmospheric window dressing with small details such as birds, ground and atmospheric clutter, etc. which has brought the environments to life.
The levelling curve is certainly A LOT faster now which can be taken as both a good and a bad thing (good from my perspective).
With my 80's my feedback on the journey to 85 is also just as positive I'm afraid (apologies to the haters!). It's a very well done, streamlined and polished experience and I have to say I take my hat off to them. Which is kind of a kick in the teeth to me as I was wanting to really rip them apart for spoiling the game. So far this is panning out to be my favourite evolution of WoW so far.
A lot of people are saying the 80-85 journey is too short.  I suppose it can be if you go without sleep for 3 days. The more 'normal' majority of the player base will get from 80 to 85 in about 15-18 hours of play. it isn't about a endless journey to the level cap this time - it's about rerolling.
70% of the dev time and money has clearly gone on remastering Azeroth and the 0-60 experience and they've brought 2 new races to boot. Some would take that as a pretty big hint to go try the new content?   
Originally posted by Deewe

I do like housing too, especially SWG like system... without messy city plans and with /roll left|right furniture ;)


However before housing WoW really needs a social clothing tab and gear dies.


For now WoW is just a Diablo on steroids.

 I would love to see the outfit and dyes system from LOTRO brought over to WoW.

To the OP, If you are looking at coming back then reclaiming your account has to be a no-brainer surely? Even just based on cost alone. As long as you know your security info and have access to the original email account then go with it. It would save rebuiying the whole bundle. I've contacted Blizzard twice in the past, once was for account reclamation and it went really smoothly with no stress.

Regarding the game itself, I'm loving Cataclysm right now. I've not tried running my 80's through the new high level areas yet but the new starter areas are great. Just loving my new worgen druid with his funky run.

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you regarding end-game content in that I don't raid but I do get a kick out of doing heroics and pvp. It remains to be seen how the new rated BG's play out - I'm hoping they haven't been 'arena-ised' and had the fun sucked out of them but I'm looking forward to them with an open mind.

If rerolling is your thing then you have 10 character slots per server to play with. I have 3 toons currently as works in progress and the new game world has geuninely rekindled my interest.

Originally posted by cheyane

When I quit at 53 a Loremaster I was already bored and I fear F2P has made it unlikely for me to return to this game. One of the things I admired the most about LotRO was the community and I am not convinced f2p has not ruined that part . So I doubt very much this will entice me to return and besides too many games on the horizon for me to enjoy.

Fortunately it hasn't turned out like that so far. My experience since F2P started has been of the same mature and friendly community. (The kiddies still seem to be busy over in WoW - long may it continue to distract them). The noob zones are more populated with lots of old players returning and rerolling + a lot of new ones too. So community seems as good as ever :) on Evernight EU anyway.

Originally posted by just1opinion

 [snip]  I don't miss WoW.  I miss what WoW USED to be and is no longer. It's not going to return to that state. [/snip] 

 Amen to that. WoW had a great vibe back in the day. It's such a different place now

I've read pretty much everything I can get my hands on for this game but something that doesn't seem to get mentioned is trading. Not just player to player auctiion-house style but commodity trading between planets / stations, etc.?

Does anyone know if this is in yet?

Originally posted by Dubhlaith

The reason is simple.

The people that designed the game you bought years ago are no longer in charge of designing this game. Different people are making design choices, and they are making all the wrong ones, or at least ones very different from the seeming intent of the original designers.

I got to agree with this. Whilst I like a lot of the new features the expansions have brought, and even some of the later stuff in Vanilla, the original vision has been lost.

A heathly chunk of the team that put WoW together moved on to put various new studios together including Carbine (owned by NCSoft) and Red 5 Studios (to be published by Webzen). Both are worth watching for the future.

Red 5 Studios are going to announce their game at PAX Prime 2010 (Sept 3rd-5th) so by this time next week we should know what they have been up to these last 5 years :).

Carbine have an interview here outlining their upcoming game:

On the whole I'm looking forward to Cata but I don't see the end game as anything I will be spending bags of time on. Like the OP, I see WoW as a game of 2 halfs and the fun for me is in the first half these days. I can't stand the gear score spam - as if achievements weren't bad enough!  and Cata will not change that and will probably shift the split more over to 40% levelling/60 end-game which in my eyes isn't a good thing.

Cataclysm will be my swan song for WoW. I'm done with it now basically but I've stuck with it since the start so I'm going to see where they take it with Cata.

To be honest I don't think the community as a whole understands the scope of the changes that are going to hit them. I often hear people saying 'I can't wait to fly in the old world and go to my vaourite old haunts'.

Errr. newsflash... they won't exisit come Cataclysm. The world as you know it is going to be turned on it's head. All the quests you know and loved are being removed and replaced, the map is being re-written in a lot of respects. WoW as we know it will not be the same come November. Including talent system changes, changes to how the skills are handed out - no more going to the trainer (which I used to look forward too and will miss TBH) amongst others.

When I heard about the changes to the hunter and warlock classes I stopped playing them. My Lock was already kitted out at 80 but my Hunter was my new alt. I was one of the mugs who rolled a DK at launch in WotLK and got hit with the nerf bat every patch for 18 months until I was left with a dull 'anything-but-a-hero' class. I won't make that mistake again, I'll see where these classes are heading before I put the hours into it taking them to 85. I have 4 other 80's to choose from and a few alts so I'm lucky to have a choice I suppose.

With PvP their focus on raiders (getting best weapons) and Arena ratings was always holding the game back. I'm not convinced the new rated BG's will do anything to fix that and in a lot of respects make it worse. The game will become even more gear score and achievement driven.

So on the whole I'm getting Cata to see what they've done to the game I loved. I'm hoping I will be pleasantly surprised but I seriously doubt they will pull it off. Cata is odds on to be Blizzards NGE.

Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Garfunkel

You are wrong. I've been playing MMO's since 2000 and have been in worse environments then WoW's for hacking and cheats, I know the precautions to have in place and they are there. My security is as tight as a nut.

I have never been scammed, and I didn't have a trojan on my pc then and haven't had one since - windows and AV updates are bang up to date as is my spyware software. I have daily scans of each. I'm stting behind a software firewall which is behind a hardware firewall. I have never had an email from Blizzard but even so whenever I get an email from any company with some kind of offer requring a login I never click the link in it, I always go to the site manually.

My usename and pass for each game I play is unique to that game so if one gets jacked for whatever reason the others aren't vunerable as well.

I don't use my game logon details for forum / website registration which are commonly hacked and stolen.

The different email addresses I use to register game accounts on I don't read on the network I play on, I don't even have email configured at home and I use a package to remote control my work pc and read them remotely. Either that or I use my iPhone or iPad.

But going with your theory for a second, if this was from a trojan why would they not clean out the other accounts that I have? Only Battlenet was affected. I also play LOTRO and WAR amongst others.

If the Battlenet backend is impervious and Blizzard's employees beyond reproach, how are accounts that are inactive getting hacked and banned for inappropriate activities?

maybe 85% of the time it's down to the account holder's poor security and account sharing but there's too many reports of hackings that just don't not fit that theory.

Using multiple computers to access the various parts of your account just increases your exposure to the various threats on the internet.  For example, the computer you use just to read the email could have been compromised and been the point of access hackers used to get your information.  An account hacker only needs access to your email account to have access to your entire account. 

Anti-virus, spyware cleaners and firewalls and the basic minimum security elements for a computer, not something that makes your invulnerable to getting infected.  Simply having those tools does not allow someone to say they can't get infected, because it happens every single day.  Every virus definition you download is created in response to a virus that is found to already exist.  Even beyond that there are so many exploits that AV software cannot prevent against.

Why not steal your warhammer or lotro accounts?  The market is so small to nonexistant for those games for gold sellers that few deal in those currencies.  Why steal something you don't deal in?  Wow currency is easy to steal and resell.

The question to inactive accounts has been answered many times.  Hackers have learned they can sandbag a stolen account for a while to see if they go inactive.   So instead of getting to use an account for perhaps a day while it is active, they can use it much longer if the original user isn't playing.   Not to mention how many users get a phishing email from a hacker months after they quit and fall for the scam.  Then they turn around and say "how could my account get hacked when I wasn't even playing!".  An active subscription isn't required for someone to fall victom to getting tricked out of their account details. 

If you are going to put percentages onto who is at fault for getting hacked (users vs blizzard) you should at least have something to justify those theories should you? 

You are misguided in your belief that all hackings are entirely the fault of the users and are putting far too much faith in the integrity of BN's security and the honesty of it's employees.

The fault for mine was not at my end - that's a fact - there's absolutely no doubt in my mind. There's been no sign of a trojan or virus since the hacking dispite many scans, all updates are done and I use 2 different spyware cleaners in addition to my AV. As I've already stated I have never fallen victim to a scam or phishing attempt. I don't use the email that I have registered for WoW for anything else and also have a unique user and password for it. I don't click links in any emails. ever. period.

You may not value accounts in other MMO's, well that's your failing and to be honest, your loss. There's other games out there apart from Warcraft and those accounts and their contents have value.

However, you are entitled to your opinion however misguided. I just hope it doesn't turn around and bite you on the ass when you get hacked. and it will happen - unless you have an authenticator - as I found out.

Originally posted by Bunnyking

Nobody in WoW gets hacked.

They get keylogged or scammed. Which is entirely due to their own neglect or stupidity tbh.

Yes it still sucks and like any predator, those loggers/scammers are bad guys, but it can be avoided if you're careful enough.

You are wrong. I've been playing MMO's since 2000 and have been in worse environments then WoW's for hacking and cheats, I know the precautions to have in place and they are there. My security is as tight as a nut.

I have never been scammed, and I didn't have a trojan on my pc then and haven't had one since - windows and AV updates are bang up to date as is my spyware software. I have daily scans of each. I'm stting behind a software firewall which is behind a hardware firewall. I have never had an email from Blizzard but even so whenever I get an email from any company with some kind of offer requring a login I never click the link in it, I always go to the site manually.

My usename and pass for each game I play is unique to that game so if one gets jacked for whatever reason the others aren't vunerable as well.

I don't use my game logon details for forum / website registration which are commonly hacked and stolen.

The different email addresses I use to register game accounts on I don't read on the network I play on, I don't even have email configured at home and I use a package to remote control my work pc and read them remotely. Either that or I use my iPhone or iPad.

But going with your theory for a second, if this was from a trojan why would they not clean out the other accounts that I have? Only Battlenet was affected. I also play LOTRO and WAR amongst others.

If the Battlenet backend is impervious and Blizzard's employees beyond reproach, how are accounts that are inactive getting hacked and banned for inappropriate activities?

maybe 85% of the time it's down to the account holder's poor security and account sharing but there's too many reports of hackings that just don't not fit that theory.

I would say 75% of the hackings come from account sharing and another 10% from trojans, either through email or addons. But I'm pretty sure there's something going on with the backend of Battlenet.

My friend received an email a couple of days ago telling him that someone had changed his password - the classic precursor to logging on and finding your account hacked. Except of course his account has been inactive for over 6 months. So unless the hacker has paid for a months subs as part of the hack you could say it's a Battlenet issue.

I was also hacked about 4 months ago. No one knew my log in and the user and password were unique to WoW. I don't have email on the pc I play WoW on and have full antivirus, software firewall and hardware firewall. I also play LOTRO on a lifetime sub on this pc yet that account was totally untouched.  

Virus scans have found no trace of a trojan on my rig. The only browsing I do is online banking. No attempt has been made to access my banking which is worth a damn sight more than a few virtual items. So it's not as clear cut as Blizzard claimed it was when I phoned them to report it. They insisted the problem was at my end - which you'd expect them to for liabilitiy issues. (btw Other than that they were great and restored everything within 90 mins).

But looking back on it now I'm 99.99% positive it's a Blizzard issue. I received the email telling me that my password had been changed and at first I though 'Oh crap hacked!'. Then I thought how the hell? In order to change my password without administrator access to Battlenet you would need to know my secret question and answer. It's one thing to steal a user and pass and log in with it but entirely another to know details that haven't been typed in for years.They are also uniuqe to WoW and I haven't had to enter them since I created the account in 2005.

The only possibilities behind my hacking and that of my friend are either a rogue CS employee at Blizzard, harvesting items and gold from accounts, or their backend security has more holes than a Swiss cheese.

They are hardly likely to admit either so there are only 2 options open to you. Either get an authenticator for free on your phone or send off for it or cancel you accoutn and walk way. I downloaded the authenticator but I was sorely tempted to take option 2.

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