Definitely one of the biggest jokes in the game right now. You should be able to power up fire spells with the firemaking cape, hit higher with the strength cape, and get a woodcutting speed bonus with the woodcutting cape.

Who else has some creative ideas? This is just a "toss out your idea" thread, for anyone who wants to play along.

Originally posted by Blissey

Much better when it comes to wide scale compability or speed, but other than that, it's a shame of an MMORPG. This coming from a veteran.

I give that a QFT.

Is b1i12 being paid to advertise runescape? Because that's what it looks like he's doing, anyway. I can understand a positive review; we all have our dislikes and likes, but this guy is somthin else.

I believe he is refering to the "Kill X" quests in World of Warcraft.

Yes, there are many "Kill X" quests in wow, but there are some great storylines - and the "cutscenes" are epic. Try this cutscene on for size, and tell me Runescape's cutscenes are better than WoW's.

www.youtube.com/watch

[quote]Noob is actually the mantra of the entire community, regardless of your level or ability to play.[/quote]

I totally agree. I can't count how many times I was called a noob for being level 129. For having a Skillcape. For having Dragon/Bandos armor. For having a dragonfire shield. For killing a level 138. In fact, I was called a noob because I was talking with a level 27... What, I can't be friendly now? When I was around level 115 it wasn't so much of an issue - but then they came out with the downdates, the restrictions, and banned me several times for things I didn't do.

I got banned for macroing because I had figured out a way to click very rapidly on the "Sell 10" option. (This was before the sell 50 option - I wonder if my ban motivated that?) I was using this method to buy cheap bows from people that they would normally sell to the store themselves, and then rapidly selling stacks of 100,000 or more to the store at a marginal profit in a matter of 10 minutes or so. Jagex didn't like this, so they accused me of macroing. I appealed, explaining the situation - I got the usual "You were in control of the account." No shit I was in control of the account...

Anyway, I'm glad that Blissey got me to switch to WoW, I'm level 80 and I find that I actually enjoy it. I would always seem to get frustrated with Runescape daily before. Now, if I get annoyed with a task, there's something else to do that will give me the same experience but it's not the same task. I can buy some of the best items easily, and I don't find myself waiting days or weeks to buy and sell things on the Grand Exchange. Either the item I want is present, and I buy it - instantly might I add - or it isn't and I come back later. Amazingly enough, if I do so desire, I can go get the materials for it myself and pay someone else to make it - and I've never had anyone steal it. There's about a 75% chance it'll get stolen in Runescape, if that system was used.

I can put things up on the Auction House and people actually buy it - and amazingly enough, I can actually make a profit for my time spent. On Runescape, nearly everything you sell on the Grand Exchange is sold at a loss to you unless you use formulas to mathematically figure out the system - even then, the profit is marginal. I wrote a program for myself to predict market trends, it worked great (several hundred k or even 1 mil+ gold came in per day) but then I got killed due to a glitch several times in one day - lost over 25 million. I started playing WoW and realized that the effort I put into Runescape wasn't worth it. Gold and items are much easier to get in WoW, yet the market isn't as much of a mess as it is in Runescape.

I played for around 3 years on Runescape, only to get called a noob, banned, beaten down, and finally destroyed by faulty game mechanics. 6 months into playing WoW, I'm one of the top players in my guild and people actually want me to play with them.

The message here isn't that WoW is better, the message is that Runescape has gone down the wrong path, and I'm sorry for ever believing I could make a difference (with my suggestions that would get locked) or that I could ever overcome peer harassment. Runescape's mechanics, community, and econemy are all horrendous, and I'm surprised that as many people still play as there still are playing. But then again, I'm not so sure that will last either.

Runescape used to have more than 5 million unique visiters per month - and now they have a little over two million. I feel sorry for Jagex, and I feel sorry for myself for ever playing it. One can only hope that things will improve - I did enjoy the game at one point.

Reference: siteanalytics.compete.com/runescape.com/

When I posted on another forum, someone PM'ed me and offered me 170 million GP because he quit long ago and never bothered to get rid of the money.

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Fucking trade limits... lol.

I WAS enjoying my play for a while, but a bug in the game that I've been informed doesn't exist has killed me, causing the loss of the larger part of my money. Due to the fact that the restrictive trade limit makes money-making very hard, I give up trying to play anymore. It's back to World of Warcraft for me. Fuck RuneScape and I'm sorry I ever tried to defend it or help it out.

Thank you for clarifying that. Btw I shouldn't have launched a personal attack on you, I was just pissy before because of some schooling crap. Sorry.

Well, that was a graph of the US electricity rates. I didn't really bother to look at other countries because I was short on time and pissed off at my school. Being that they are based in the UK I should have looked there first.

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In response to the poster who thinks I'm someone who just blindly defends Jagex regardless. I disagree, read my other posts and you'll see I have criticised them too and I will continue to do so, when I think it's appropriate but not just for the sake of it.

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I would be much more likely to believe you if I wasn't constantly finding loopholes in your arguments. Almost every post of yours I have read, (in which you write verifiable information), I go onto Google and search it. And guess what? It's usually wrong. If you based your posts on facts instead of assumptions and/or rumors, I'm sure you'd get a lot further in these discussions.

Here's the problem: Prices aren't going up. They're going down. The economy is in a nice downward spiral thanks to Bush, and with so many companies invested in the U.S., many other countries are following suit; some crashing even worse than the U.S.

So you claim the price of electricity is going up? Well, I can prove to you that your claim is simply a falsification intended to support your argument. Here's the proof:

Yes, it was going up, but right after they raised the price of Runescape, the prices crashed. If they in fact were in need of money because of prices, wouldn't they lower the rate after their electricity became affordable again?

We are in deflation, not inflation. Cut the constant talk about inflation, there is no more inflation.

Ouch! I messed up. Read the edit I made to the first post. I made a little slip in my research of the topic.

Originally posted by Blissey

Deception or not, the things that they added to the game were indirectly related to the trade limit. Believe it or not It's all for the skillcape man...it's all for the skillcape.

I agree with you there. Although, the only thing that keeps me playing is Castle Wars, I am like, addicted to that minigame. I don't like skillcapes though, all they seem to do is motivate people to annoy you to do your emote. If it didn't have decent stats, or I could get a fire cape, I'd never wear it... Sadly, I have very slow reaction time and the Jad kills me on the first hit every time I have tried to beat the fight caves.

Originally posted by Blissey

Just wait now, but for the meantime why don't you prepare yourself by doing some case studies and relating this "inflation" to the one Jagex is experiencing right now?

 

Ahhahahaha. I actually did laugh out loud. That was good.

It's okay, I'm sorry as well. I had no intention of "cheering on" the theif. He was just as much at fault for his unscrupulous actions. The most likely reason for the "kudos" was just that the kid needed to be taught a lesson and he got it the hard way, and several people here probably agree with that result. Still, it would be much better if such deeds were never committed in the first place; neither the kid's deed or the phishers'. But that world doesn't exist, sadly.

Originally posted by Blissey

Now that hits the spot. Tell me, how are things going in rs? great program by the way. Thumbs up 5/5

Well, I personally have been okay. I've gotten several levels up, and I 'm closing in on 130 combat. It's been far less frustrating to play without a random event attacking me every 10-15 minutes. With the partial loosening of the swear filter, I have also seen much less swearing and spamming (contrary to what you might think.)

As for the bad, however, I've been conscripted by 3 clans before I asked to join, verbally assaulted by two "noobs," and my ideas have gone ignored on the forums as usual.

I have also discovered that level has nothing to do with maturity:

PassHash, I believe, is the most "final" version of any program I've ever written. Usually about 95% of my programs are never finished or end up being unfit for public release. I'm glad you're happy with it. I'm quite proud that I actually finished writing a program so I like to talk about it, haha.

I don't blame the victims at all, unless it really is their fault. I'm saying this kid is dumb because of all the things he did before and after he fell for the trap. There's many people who are smart but uninformed who fall for phishing scams. But for starters, he cheated - on a large scale. He knew what he was doing, Jagex spouts all this crap all the time about RWT and whatnot. Anyone who plays for an extended period no doubt knows this. And then, he was dumb enough to advertise what he had falsely acquired was stolen from him. You can't lose what you never gained.
 
There's accidental, and then there's just stupidity. He crossed that line.

Ooh owned. I wanted to make a post like that, but college work is forcing to make my posts rather short due to time constraints...

Nope, you still can't say screw, shit, or email. I just tested it. Try using "skkrew," it works and I've been reported for it several times but never banned. You still can't say poof or hash either which is annoying. Poof is "gay" in britian, but hash? I don't know. I keep trying to say hash code or whatever, because I made a program called PassHash and I tell people about it sometimes... But it gets filtered which pisses me off.

I'm not going to quote that huge block of text, but I would like to say this:

Yes, I believe veterans could do a much better job than Jagex has been doing. Let me just give an example: I for one would update the macro detection. Then with better detection, they wouldn't need to restrict free trade. How hard is it to catch a macro? Believe it or not, it's fairly easy. I have played several games where they automatically ban you for running a macro, without any moderator interaction.

A. Detect repeated actions, within the same area, and never differing.

B. Detect mouse clicks in a pattern, on the same pixel or differing pixels.

C. Detect running processes on a person's computer, and ban users if a disallowed application is running.

D. The majority of organized macro users can be traced by large money transfers and a number of accounts being played within an area simultaneously.

E. Detecting the IP addresses of a user computer-side so they can't hide behind a proxy and get around IP Bans.

F. Check the validity of a credit card before accepting it, there's plenty of ways to do this.

G. If the macro is smart enough to change it's actions, patterns, and even it's own application checksum, name, title, and virtually everything about it, and drag the mouse in a human pattern and respond to text, and even defeat random events (which is extremely hard to do, but has been done) then there's one last option: Actual customer support.

I'm in college learning about programming, and even I know how to do this sort of thing.

You're yet another person looking for every way to defend Jagex's actions, and it's nothing new that hasn't been done before.

Originally posted by acephaloid

(above) Who's post were you responding to?

Blissey - agree with you, the mistake has been made and can't be undone but I know that I don't appreciate being blamed for someone's else mistakes and the same is probably true for Jagex.

Clearly things have not been right there or there wouldn't have been a regime change.

Was it just a PR Stunt?