Originally posted by seifer93

You EU guys, should really just go to the US servers, they're much more stable (although they're not perfect either.) Of course that would require you guys to start a new account and start from scratch, so I wouldn't blame you if you don't want to.

Pretty bad timing to post that since they split the EU sever in 2 yesterday which means no more ques...

Originally posted by pupurun

I got a question. I know there is the Freet Play LOTRO client. But for the subscribed players(premium?) is there a different client versionthat needs to be installed?

It's the same client. You will even have all the expansion installed even if you dont own the content.

Yes WoW raised the bar of quality alot and most companies couldnt keep up.

I think LotrO, Rift and maybe Aion are the only MMOs since then that come close to the over all quality of WoW.

Originally posted by waynejr2

My understanding for LOL and HON is they are filled with a horrible community.  So, that is a negative to me.

LoL community have become much better since they implemented the tribunal, best feature ever!

Its more like LoL is like WoW

and HoN is like EQ2, the ugly copy with more advanced graphics that only the hc fans enjoy.

Originally posted by Paragus1

I've been playing this game for over a year now and it's still a fun game.   You can not beat the value for the price, and this game has lasted far longer in my guilds vent than any MMO in the last 6 years.

Paragus, your blog is the reason I tried LoL...

At first I thought it was a really stupid game. Then I got hooked. Now I try to play atleast a game every day. Singed is my favourite champion :)

Originally posted by Wayshuba

I was a long time player of LOTRO. Loved the game, the lore, my kin and most of the mechanics.

I am completely done with it now because of the company. Turbine has been using some very questionable (and I mean that in a legal sense), and definately rather unethical, business practices since the beginning of the year and I refuse to support a company that is blantantly exploiting the customer base to make a few extra bucks.

Personally, I hope this whole F2P movement blows up on Turbine big time. They have become a shady and disreputable company and are nothing like the company of SoA days.

Every Update since update 2 has just angered a lot of the customer base. Then they followed it with the Grindaversary which has become an industry joke. Update 3 proved they could care less about what upset their current players. Finally, the pre-order without offering to buy it with their own currency (Turbine Points), and with very, very little said about the expansion shows a company trying to charge more and deliver less than they have in the past.

All you need to do is follow their forums. Watch each update, the size of the threads started about player disappointment, the heavy policing of the forums and the number of low post forum users (less than 20) that now feel they need to post becuase Turbine is heading in the wrong direction.

The good news though, Turbine has saved me a lot of money that I would have plunked down with them. I am done with them for good. You know the saying, fool me once - shame on me, fool me twice - shame on you, fool me a third time - I am done with you for good.

Lots of ranting, no substance.

I would say Lotro have never been better and getting some of the best content in the last updates. And the community seems relatvily happy. No mass exodus like back in SoA. It's imposible to make all people happy though.

Blows my mind that so many people are raging when a company gives more than anyone else and demanding more.

Will try when F2P is released. I like it when I first played in beta and looking forward to see what its like now!

Originally posted by Robokapp

Originally posted by Cacaphony

Originally posted by Robokapp

 

am i wrong?

 Yeah... I think you are.  You did a mighty fine job of assuming things, and not such a good job proving anything.

 well...I wouldnt need posting if I KNEW I'm right. But I'll need to see a flaw in my logic pointed out otherwise between my original thoughts and nothing, I'll have to stick to what I think so far.

 

so why am I wrong?

So name 1 MMO that went from P2P to F2P and then died!

Its the complete opposit from what you are saying. F2P give new life to MMOs and make MORE money for the devs if done right. Chanign to a better buisness model is just imrpoving to what that consumers whant. WIN/WIN

Its funny that Free realms i probably the best MMO SOE has  :)

Yea he seems really week. Phreak already said he is getting buffed in next patch.

Cool concept though, and I like his pentakill skin :D

So does this mean that TF2 was a failure and dying?

/sarcasm

Originally posted by Tyrantas

Originally posted by Papadam

Originally posted by Tyrantas

I just simply don't understand how can someone accept this game as esports game. It's so casual, so easy, unbalanced, map amount is laughable. The only thing this game has that is good for esports is popularity and that popularity comes not from game quality, but from the fact that this game is f2p. 

 

Sounds just like a bitter HoN fan :D

You know soccer is a very casual friendly sport too and it only has 1 map. Still the most popular sport in the world.

No I don't play HoN. It's just stupid what amount of skill and training time investment you need to LoL comapred to esports games like counter-strike, quake-live, starcraft 2, it's not even comparable. 

Eh why would it take more skill and training in thoose games?

Does it take more skill and traning to win in hockey than soccer?

Makes no sense. Only differnce is that thoose games are alot older. (counting SC)

And I dont see how LoL is too unbalanced, it's not perfect but don't see how it affected the games in the tournamnet. Bans ancd picks solve alot of the inblances.

Originally posted by Tyrantas

I just simply don't understand how can someone accept this game as esports game. It's so casual, so easy, unbalanced, map amount is laughable. The only thing this game has that is good for esports is popularity and that popularity comes not from game quality, but from the fact that this game is f2p. 

 

Sounds just like a bitter HoN fan :D

You know soccer is a very casual friendly sport too and it only has 1 map. Still the most popular sport in the world.

LotrO is probably the best game for you if you want good PvE. Good commuity with lots of players and a new expansion coming in 3 months.

EQ2 is also a good choice but I don't think it has aged very well.

It was alot of fun to watch this tournamnet. Never thought i would like watching e-sports before!

LoL is a great game but I don't understand why it's  on mmorpg.com

Shouldnt it be on rtsguru instead?

DDO

Global agenda

Originally posted by Killswitch34

Originally posted by Papadam

Originally posted by Tyrantas

Main reason: f2p.

 

HoN is better imo and if it was f2p and LoL was b2p (like hon) then HoN would be where LoL is now or even better. It's quite sad how some people accept LoL as esports game.

Well that's just your opinion.

212k people watching LoL live stream from Dreamhack

and maybe 18k watching HoN

I found HoN to be really bad compared to LoL. The ugly and generic art style was a big turn off.

Ya, cause you know LoL has wayyyyyyyyyyyyy better graphics then HoN. /sarcasm off

No but LoL looks waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than HoN.

Talented artists>Advanced graphics

Just like WoW looks way better than for example EQ2.

But thats not the point of this thread.

Originally posted by Tyrantas

Main reason: f2p.

 

HoN is better imo and if it was f2p and LoL was b2p (like hon) then HoN would be where LoL is now or even better. It's quite sad how some people accept LoL as esports game.

Well that's just your opinion.

212k people watching LoL live stream from Dreamhack

and maybe 18k watching HoN

I found HoN to be really bad compared to LoL. The ugly and generic art style was a big turn off.

Don't know if it's a big deal but WoW have been the most played game on Xfire since forever.

Now for the first time in several yeaars it has been passed by League of legends. Pretty impressive to go from a small indy game to this. (especially with all the server problems..)

http://www.xfire.com/games/#