Originally posted by Sovrath

Aren't those solo games?

 

They give a different experience so I imagine that people who like online games won't abandon whatever games they prefer.

Lol ya starcraft huge solo game

Left 4 dead, multiplayer game.

Redalert 3 also multiplayer

Fallout3 iam sure it will have multiplayer since 2 did.

diablo3 also a multiplayer game.

All are amazing games iam sure to buy.

Originally posted by lorndarken

what you are talking about can happen on the destruction side also,  the other day we had a really stupid dok that was just sitting there  not getting involved and when he had the chance to heal you , he heal himself instead , not one of use saw him throw out a heal  . so we just tried to manage while he did his own thing. did we lose ? you bet. but  thats just one example,

order on my server are pretty good .  of course destruction is better, but thats how we play.

but the order guys are pretty good ,  it might be your server, have you thought  of that ?

i play on averheim

I play on averheim order and i will say in T3 Scenarios we win alot more then we lose. about 75% of the time we win. only thing Destruction is better at is zerging objectives in Open RvR, with the number advantage any side would win.

Originally posted by lorndarken

so far the game is great  for what it is, but there is a few problems i notice while playing as well.

but im sure that these problems have been addressed and that the devs are working on them as fast as possible, but the things that i have come to see so far is this , that i hope can get worked out soon with patchs.

small little lag glitchs when the game freezes up

npcs that  run away from a battle and recover full hp

guards that are killed  spawn  really  fast   when trying to take a keep, 

yellow screens that show up unexspectedly , but  i think i fixed the problem by placing the setting on fastest framerate.

 items that you equip do not appear on your toon such as helmets , NOTE :  even if you switch the show or  don't show button it still keep the helm from showing regardless.

helping  out healers in loot percentage when it comes to public quest,  there was one pq where i was the only healer , me being a dok , keeping everyone alive and was there from the begining of the pq manage to get nothing in the end while people who showed up on the stop got loot who did practicly nothing,

there might  be some more things, but as for how the game plays despite thoese things, it runs pretty well.  positive things to mention is they got ride of gold spammers , very rarely do i come across one pming me . and the rvr in zones like ostland and  marsh in t2 seemed to pick up alot that makes the overall game play much better.

i would however hope they lower the xp and renown in scenarios  quite a bit and incress the xp and renown in the rvr zone dramaticly, so it would keep players from grinding in scenarios all day long  and add a hugh bonuse to taking a keep and maintaining the keep aswell like in daoc . 

like hand out  xp  and a decent % renown for being at a keep or camp site on a 2 minute timer , like the defend part after taking  a keep or camp  ,if your realm maintains controlls of it. this in return would inspire more people to go out and take  the keep  , instead of just having the  % bonues when   you are not in the rvr  zone if your realm owns the keeps or camps.

thats one idea i have to incress more action in rvr.  

as for pve, make certain bosses tough enough that it would require a raid of some sort  with hugh xp and renown gains.  

They already did that.. They increased that XP by 50% for RvR zones, and more xp for quests in T3/T4.

They do not need to slow the xp down in any area they just need to boost like they are doing, why make it a grind game and slow things down in any area.

You get XP and Renown for killing the keep lord, and you get loot really good loot for killing him. Also by having your whole zone under control by your Realm that whole zone will get 1200 renown every so often (not sure on the timer for zone lock down).

Your last part there.. why give Renown for PvE content, the only renown that comes from NPC's should be the Keep lords, The City Lords, The Objective Sergeants.  Not from safe zone PvE, that would kill pvp even more and make everyone grind the easy renown in their safe zones.

Any other things you want in the game that they already have?

to each his own.. i am sure alot of us have other "real" hobbies.

The cake is a lie too.

Originally posted by MyPreciousss

Originally posted by Battleskar

Originally posted by Zayne3145

No.

Blizzard are a business not a charity. As such, in the current financial climate they would be worse off making the expansion free. As for the prolonged development cycle on their expansions, this is simply because they want to release a finished product and not a half-baked game to appease the masses.

 

So they do not make enough from their monthly charges to fund such a project?

 

Greedy company, they'll pull your last golden tooth out if they can. Not even contemplating 1 free character transfer for 4 year old customers, and not willing to enforce any rule on their servers (aren't we paying for that too???), eternal gold spamming and brats talking rubbish for months on trade channel, sex stuff, insults, without never ever a GM intervening. Yeah fanbois keep wasting your money on this dumb shit, at least i won't see you in my other games.

Goldtooth is in the mines close to goldshire.. wait what are we talking about?

Originally posted by xsarkaix

Originally posted by Azrile

Yep.. there are only 2 things hurting Warhammer right now

1. Scenarios are a much better thing to do to 'advance' your character, which leaves minimal people willing to run across a zone to do RvR.  It's much 'better' to just pve until a scenario procs.

2. Server population imbalances further restrict RvR.  On many, if not most servers, the factions are imbalanced which means that if you do run across the zone to get into the RvR area, you are more than likely to steamroll, or get steamrolled.

They need to nerf the rewards from scenarios and merge servers to where most of the servers are high/high.  The emphasis of this game was based around large group RvR.  There just is not enough replayability in scenarios and pve to make the game fun.

To the other poster who asked what is different between this and other games.. I'll compare it to WOW.   In WOW, the endgame is built around pve progression mostly.  You do 5 mans, then you do heroics, then you do 10 mans, you do daily quests and you gain faction reputations.  There is a very long and balanced endgame progression (pve side).  The thing is.. Warhammer wasn't designed to offer that type of endgame progression (pve), instead it was supposed to offer the big RvR progression.  But that is simply not happening since people are grinding away in scenarios and doing PVE.  There is no real 'endgame' progression for what players are spending the majority of their time doing (pve and scenarios).  It's kinda like when you buy a big toy for your kid.  You spend hours building this great big toy, only to find out your kid spent more time playing with the box it came in.

Scenario grind to rank 40 then scenario grind to rr 80 then raid enemy city OVER AND OVER AND OVER its the only way to get the best gear in the game

I know what your saying but one thing i will point out that i have also said, RR80 gear is not better then PVE gear. The legendary RR 75 set is worse then lvl 25 greens.. sure it has some set bonuses but the stats themselves is terrible.. If you don't believe me go check the far south in IC you will see that the RR75 Legendary chest piece has stats like +10str +5init +8 wounds +9willpower.

so maybe they will change it later or maybe they won't, but as it stands now your best gear comes from killing the city king and pve.

Originally posted by miagisan

i am assuming, snce pve (or regular rank levels) only go up to 40, and RR goes up to 80, that theres gonna be a sweet stash of items for rr40-80, would make sense.

Check it out.. Go to IC and check out the rare,epic,legendary gear. its in the far south of IC, once you take a look you will see that your gear probably at your lvl is equal to rank 40 renown rank 75 legendary gear.

For people that say nobody is getting close to 40+ renown. sorry to say but there are alot of 40's already past 40/40. Hell iam 31/31 right now.

Originally posted by daeandor

You could just take an hour every couple levels and do 2-3 PQ's.  It will get you good enough gear.  No, you might not have all purple gear, but you will have 3-4 blue and the rest green and they would be superior to the renown.

Yes we all know what we can do with pq's, that is not the point in what this thread is about..

i am talking about LEGENDARY gear.. not epic.. not rare but LEGENDARY.. for renown rank of 75. thats alot of work to get to renown rank 75.its over 30k renown after RR30 from what i know. dunno how high it will be at around 50-80 but its taking huge jumps every renown lvl now.. so i am sure it will take along time to even get close to renown 75.. and when you get there you have gear that is worse then lvl 25 greens. But hey, go do pq's. don't worry about pointless legendary gear that is endgame renown gear, go get them greens!.

Originally posted by crunchyblack

Its not even a PVP game, its an RvR game.  Fighting 1 on 1 would only be fair if you fought your class only.

There is a point to PVE anyway, its to unlock lore, gain titles, and have something else to do besides RVR.  I just think its great that i dont have to pve grind in order to get good equipment or level.

Oh but you do. you can have crap equipment thru pvp or really good thru pve.. and by crap i mean serious crap.  stats that don't work for your class. pve gear 10 levels lowers then your pvp gear that is insanly better.

there is alot of problems as people have said. in no way would you want to lvl on pvp and just use that gear.

Zone wide chat will not fix a thing.. I use to announce in /1 that i was starting a pq group for chapt # or starting rvr group for Tier# and would do so in each new area i joined until i got to  where i was going.. Even with an open party, people are still to lazy to click the button check which party is in their area and join it..

They would run up to me and spam "invite me" "inv me" inv pls" "pt pls".. take the time to look for open partys it takes two seconds to click on that little button and get the invite you want. 

Zone wide chat will only cause people to spam with usless information and shit that nobody cares to see.

Renown gear they changed it from what it was as you know..

The renown gear at one time was amazing and it was up to par with pve gear.. but the complainers killed it by saying it was too over powered and pvp gear shouldn't be good or better then pve gear..

So mythic went and nerfed the shit out of it..

Now heres the problem last night i went to IC main city and i checked to see how bad the gear actually is at top renown.. i am seriously pissed off how bad it really is..

The lvl 27 renown 24 gear is a tad bit worse then the lvl 40 renown rank  75 LEGENDARY gear. i seen a 2-3 stat increase on some stats and a few more set bonus nothing that makes you want to focus on high renown for that gear at all.. I am sorry when my lvl 25 to 30 green gear with no renown req can beat out the top PvP renown LEGENDARY gear there is something wrong.
 

The one iam sporting right now is "The Bloodied"  for 1000 rvr kills. i actually think its for 1k killing blows because i have over like 5k rvr kills in my ToK

Originally posted by Goldknyght

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by thanoskkk

Im still trying to figure out where at wardb.com can i get my sig. Can you help plz?

 

Sure.

1: Create an account

2: Click on 'MY ACCOUNT' in the top right hand corner and select 'MY CHARACTERS'

3: Click on the character name that you would like a sig for

4: Copy the code and paste it in a forum signature area.

This does require you to have the Curse Profiler installed, of course (the addon manager thingy), and to have at least loaded up the character since you installed it.

 

Hmm see i dont like profiler programs. I dont need anybody tracking what i do. When you start letting people track your life you make it easier for them to exploit your weaknesses.

Quick somebody get him his tinfoil hat!

i will just say there is 2 sections that i skimmed thru  in the EULA that state you will not trade sell or exchange accounts, items or currancy, or buy or pretty much even look in the general direction of someone doing such act.

you cant copy paste it and iam not going to waste that amount of time writing it all out here.. maybe you will find it online with any luck.

Originally posted by Pheace

Well, the issue suddenly has become a real one if this print of someone turns out to be a real copy from the eula (if someone here can confirm)

 

 

"TRANSFER OF RIGHTS (As in the EUALA)

 

You shall be permitted to transfer once to another person eligible to obtain an Account your right to access and use your account (but not items, characters and attributes separate from the Account), on the following terms and conditions:

 

You may not offer to transfer the rights to any Account(s) except your own, or act as a "broker" or intermediary (for compensation or otherwise) for any others wishing to transfer or obtain accounts. You may not transfer the rights to your Account to any entity or person ineligible to have an account under the terms and conditions of the EUALA. You may not transfer rights to any Account which contains characters who attributes are, in whole or in part, developed, or which contains items, objects, or currency obtained or acquired, in violation of the terms of the EUALA. The transferee must obtain all rights to your Account in a single transaction, and you must retain absolutely no rights or controls over the Account, or the characters, items, and attributes associated with that Account. You must physically deliver the CD-ROM, and all it's original packaging, documentation (including the keycode on the jewel case) associated with the Account, and keep no part of such materials or any copies thereof. You must deliver to the transferee your secret word, password, account name and all information regarding your account other than personal billing information such as credit card, Pay-by-Cash information, billing information, etc. You must deliver to the transferee a copy of the EUALA then in effect, and the transferee must, as a condition of accessing the System through the transferred Account, agree to be bound by all the terms and conditions of the EUALA.

 

You must notify Mythic, via electronic mail to transfers@warhammeronline.com, not later than 3 days after concluding the sale that you have transferred the Account, include in your notice the following: your true name and current mailing and email address, login name and player name associated with the Account; the true name and current mailing and email addresses of the transferor (you) and the transferee, and the following statement: " I HEREBY CERTIFY THAT, ON (insert date here) I TRANSFERRED ALL MY RIGHTS TO ACCESS AND USE THE WARHAMMER ONLINE ACCOUNT IDENTIFIED ABOVE, TO THE PERSON IDENTIFIED ABOVE, AND THAT SUCH A TRANSFER COMPLIES WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS GOVERNING ACCOUNT RIGHTS TRANSFERS, AS SET FORTH IN THE CURRENT VERSION OF WARHAMMER ONLINE END USER ACCESS AND LICENSE AGREEMENT, WHICH I FURTHER CERTIFY THAT I HAVE READ AND DELIVERED TO THE TRANSFEREE." The subject field of the email must contain only the name of the account that is being transferred. Mythic assumes no obligations or responsibility for any misspelling or typographical errors on your part."

and there after it says Mythic is not responsible for any refunds and that you may be charged for billing at the end of the month depending on when you sent out the email stating you were transferring your account. Any transfer/attempted transfer not in accordance will be considered null and void and not binding by Mythic. "

 

So basically, *yes* WAR perfectly allows people to sell their account, as long as they tell Mythic about it.

 

This should provide some interesting new situations :)

 

Sorry the real one says you cannot transfer/sell an account that has characters, items, or currancy at all on the account... try reading the real one.

Hrmm sorry but that would get really annoying chatting in vent with guildies and have people in warbands and scenarios screaming and being childish.. sure add it.. i would just turn it off.

Yes they should, also bring in an Item mall!

I am pretty sure they won't do that. I think that would actually put the final nail in the coffin of AoC if they did that. they are taking steps to rebuild the mess they made but doing that might hinder their efforts.

Originally posted by Azrile

No

I was hoping to find a 'second' game that was more focused on PVP.. but after trying Warhammer and the Wraith Beta..  it's clear that WOW will overtake Warhammer in pvp.  The new battlegrounds in Wraith and Lake Wintergrasp are just much more complicated, tactical and strategic then Warhammer, and warhammer doesn't have the the pve to back it up.

Warhammer is not a terrible game, but after seeing the Wraith beta for WOW, there is simply no reason to play a game that feels very 'old'.    The warhammer battlegrounds in particular just blew my mind... why did they take the two worst battlegrounds in WOW and model their scenarios after them.   Seiging took a step backwards from DAoC because you can't even control the seige weapons.

If you compare Warhammer pvp to WOW's pvp 3 years ago, Warhammer is the clear choice.  But the things Blizzard did with Wraith just puts in far ahead of Warhammer.

Warhammer is not built around scenarios.. its built around OPEN world pvp, taking keeps and objectives in the open world.. iam sorry that you got to lvl 7 and hated the whole game. 

You show how much you also know because you do control siege weapons.. such as hot oil above doorways, catapults, arrow repeaters, battering rams for keep doors.. and many others.

it shows that you NEVER open world pvp'd and only got to no lvl past Tier 1..

Maybe i will go to the battleground and open world pvp in wow at lvl 7, do all the awsome dungeons/pve content at that lvl,  and judge how great the game is.. You made yourself seem pretty ignorant in the fact of posting your one sided opinion on something you have not even experianced fully..

 Edit: maybe you mean control siege weapons by moving them?