This sounds like a lot of instancing to me.

Originally posted by solarine

Well, I guess you'd have to play *the whole Borg* :)

 

hm, does that means that we will have multiple Borgs scattered trought multiple alternate realities? :D:D:D:D

Originally posted by SirPaco

 

like what? a secret economical model made by an underground researcher in the 18th century that shows how viable it is to sell role playing games based  only on small, dead communities?

 

the trail leads to the underground passages in Rome !!!!

LOL, maybe, who knows. :D

I just wonder when O WHEN will people learn that arenaNET is guild wars developer not NC soft.

Originally posted by wormywyrm

 Lol, people manager...  Every fool coming to these forums wanting to make a mmo thinks they are going to be the people manager (aka the job that requires no skill) and lead a group of non-paid volunteers in creating a great mmorpg.  Until they realize that people with abilities do not want to be told what to work on by someone who has an idea but no money and no ability.

I agree on this, it is true that everyone wants to be boss and go around telling all others what they must do. But I think that without people manager or someone who will organise whole project, project is most likely to fail. I have experienced this myself, every project without one who will keep track and get people organised is most likely to fail, exceptions are always present of course.

I never had any trouble with Vista and I like Win7. And just for record, I do not put 3rd party no name drivers on my operating system, I do not install every free crap software and toolbar on the net, I do not place cheap hardware in my comp, maybe these are reasons I had no trouble at all with any Windows so far, who knows life moves in mysterious ways.

I think I can say now that I am 100% sure I will not play this!

You need:

1 Artist, 1 Sound and music artist, 1 programmer, 1 storywritter and 1 people manager. If you multiply any of thouse jobs, your game will be faster done. It can be done by one person but I have given these cause I do not believe that one person alone can be expert in all of thouse fields. It is better to have a small good team of willing people that trying to be one man army.

You could do it on laptop but it will need to be good laptop. Also there are some free mmorpg software makeers out but best solution is to make your engine or modify existing one.

If you need help all you need to do is ask :D

15 bucks, sorry devs, I just think that no game deserves more than that, it is standard fee and if someone takes it up and community accepts it then everyone else will raise fees no matter of quality. Standard fee is standard fee, I think games should attract their game player bas by offering something unique and new, not by playing with fees. And Blizz showed that even with standard fee it can make ton of money.

Reading txt I must say I have not seen nothing simmilar to this, maybe they know something we do not.

Yea, best launch in industry and still is. I think GW2 will do the same.

guild wars 2

Originally posted by Toquio3

Im playing Aion atm, and I just had an experience literally 2 minutes ago I felt I had to share. I was soloing to my hearts desire when this gladiator came up to me and asked me to group up for a quest. I didnt have the quest, but he needed the mobs around dead, and I was there so I decided to help him out (there goes people's theories that soloers are phycopaths). Anyway, We killed 2 mobs, just 2, and he said 'sorry, need more XP' and left the group.

Now keep in mind that I was helping him out, and it was his request to begin with. I felt something very wrong had just happened. What do you guys think about it?

I think MMORPG games do not have bright future with that kind of people running loose.

This thread is joke, right?

Thank you for quick and good reply.

Hi guys, I have read lot of positives and negative rewiews of this game, but it seems that every aspect which is said to be positive from one games is then said to be negative by another gamer. Since I can not really make my own conclusion based only on that I would like to aks just a couple of quaestions about this game before considering that BIG download. OK to cut to the chase here are thing I am interesed in and I would like to thank  everyone for answer.

1. Does anyone experience how much is this game item shop dependent on PvE only aspect of the end at its end? (i do not have problem spending some cash but I read that I must spend tons of it which I am not willing to do)

2. Is this just another grind fest? (also based on reading that after lvl 30 it becomes just tons of grinding)

3.Does it have a lot of bugs (bug here and there is not an issue but lots of them are)

4. What is end game content? (dungeons, raids, ... )

5. Is housing heavy cash shop dependent?

Originally posted by Yohanu

We cannot alter the story set up, that's the problem. In pen and paper role playing you still have the power of decision. You cannot decide to completely alter the story in a current-gen mmo. 

 

Let's say for instance you are to help some peasant with killing rats (ridiculous example i know). In any game today you do his quest and get a reward. If the game story was driven by players i could choose to kill the peasant instead and loot his stuff (possibly have a moral-system for this as well to make it even better).

Good example, however I do not believe we will ever see anything like that, it requires too much coding and thinking and development time in general to think of every possible option that one player can think of. This is main reason that pen and paper role play is still light years superrior comparing to MMO.

But after better thinking, this would be nearly impossible in MMO, if that peasant would spawn again, you could kill him over and over again and we would have a ton of player raid villages in order to have some quick cash. If however peasant would not spawn (it would stay dead) we could be facing vitual playground where player base would prolly slaughter all population and all that would be then will prolly look something like some post apocalipse movie where we have clans fightning each other for territory.

Originally posted by Yohanu

 They are getting worse because it's about developers telling a story, it's supposed to be about the players making the story happen. That's roleplaying for you.

I do not understand this? What players making the story happen has to do anything with developer telling a story. Developer is telling the story and players go trought the story making it happen, I do not see how thouse two thing do not stand together. Even in sandbox game like EVE you have developer telling a story. Even in pen and paper you have GM telling the story. Players go trought the story and thus they are making it happen. If no one would go trought the story, the story would not happen, so I do not understand what you wanted to say with this. I agree that maybe we do not like some stories but than again no one is forcing us to play games with storys we do not like.

This is interesting thread OP, really.

My oppinion on the subject is that MMOs are getting better in the way of technical and visual aspect. We have better graphic, better sound. Also story telling in them is way better that once it was, so that aspect is improved as well. Ambient design and surroundings are also better, developers pay more attention to details and not just using some generators to create forest for example  and leave it that way. Only thing I really do not like is that they are way too much simplyfied, there days all MMOs seem to me like giant lobbys where you assemble group and then you go into game (raid, dungeon or whatever). I need more interaction between me and world, housing for example. Also I think it woulb be nice if anyone would introduce player bussiness model, where players coould open their own store, blacksmith and other stuff. In EVE for example you can be miner and you can do that all of your time, no need to raid, no need to do anything you do not like and nothing is forced on you.

That said I do not know how to answer really, my felling is that they are getting better but sometimes I just want to be potion maker in some kingdom and profit from all of wanna be heroes :D

Originally posted by karat76

 I solo and do 5 man stuff in WoW but I refuse to raid. I'm sure there has to be some decent people who raid but from my experience they have some serious issues and i just hope they are sterile. For instance I was asked to do a Naxx run and I said i can't my kids are up so i am just doing my Argent Tourney dailies. I was told to just lock my kids in their rooms and get my priorities straight. that was the final nail for me. I have no use for the raiding community in wow  and I hope  blizzard offers 5 man versions of all raid dungeons just so people with some sense of what it means to have a life outside of the game can see all the content I don't even give a crap if the decrease the loot in the 5 man version. Some of us don't need to flex our epeen as much.

Yea, this is true, happened to me couple of times and not just in WOW. This is main reason I am not in any guild and I do not do raids.

People and community can be trouble, lot of no life players just spend too much time in game. One of my ex friends was running guild wars dungeons for like 10 hours per day, got obsidian armor and all that expensive stuff, also he always commplained how game has nothing to offer but he never has done any questing at all for example. We argued and stopped being friends when my baby boy had nigtmare and woken up in middle of dungeon run which caused party wipe cause I did not heal (i went to comfort my kid). I was accued of being not serious enough, with words like leave him cry, stupid kids and simmilar. After that I really had couple of more simmilar experiences and reliased that yes, lot of people doing raids and dungeons and whatever at end game are mostlly people without real life obligations, so I turned to soloing, it did miracless, I can enjoy game and have no issues with people who are "hardcore".