And again, Runescape is not about PVP either. It's one feature of the game, but not the main thing. Lately it gained more importance, more options were added, but still the skills, quests and the new areas & maps are the main concern for the devs - and it's normal, these are the things that make the difference between Runescape and any other PVP "let's kill everybody" type of MMO. I prefer to play a more solo oriented game rather than one that has only PVP and nothing more.

Originally it was all about pvp... when the world was all wildy, and actually the opposite is true, it is less pvp than it used to be. With the more nontradable items introduced it has taken away the spoils of player killing, with the more options added for pvp combat areas that have no risks such as castlewars, duel arena, and fight pits it has taken away alot from the pvp winner takes all part of the game... but with the recent updates added to teleblock ( actually that had no affect) and the player takes precidence over npcs they are bringing a little of that back, not as much as it really needs to have brought back but at least it is something. Though that changed alot of the tactics used in pkin, it made it a tad bit easier to stop people from fleeing a fight. Actually  even though I have trained alot of skills, I hate the " skilling " I like the wildy... I stayed there for a year only leaving to bank lol. I like clan wars,  mage bank pking, and rouges castle... I like the anything goes winner takes all fighting out there. I do like the pvp side of it and have been involved with the whole clan side of runescape.. I don't think they need to add more clan features simply because we wouldn;t use them anyhow .. we fight using headsets  because typing is slow in battle. I would like to see more done to bring fighters to the wildy, not skillers.. the abyss should be taken out of wildy... and I would looove to see notradables done away with but that isn't going to happen lol.  All the one item pkrs take alot of the fun out of combat.. but then again , I don't see the point in having an item if it is too expensive to pk in. Now i like to do things solo too, and I play that way alot, but i like the versatility of being able to do both.

Originally posted by Mr.Happy

Totally agree with you on the 'Choosing Class' in other games. When I first try a game, I like to experiment with the classes to see which one I like best.

Exampe: Runescape

Mage, Ranger, Warrior

You can basically change what you want to be and don't have to choose class, especially if you don't know that much about the game...

Let me ask you a question, what other MMORPG's have you played and have experience in, devil?

First off i have played alot of games not just mmorpgs.. and in fact i have tried alot of the games listed on this site.. Silkroad, hero, guild wars, wow,  but none of those for very long because they turned me off for various reasons.. first I do not like being forced to choose player class or guilds before I play a  game.. I like to keep my options open... I want to be able to do anything and everything equally, not having to pick. Before i played runescape I played diablo2,  red alert series, lords of the realm2, ceasar2, were amongst  some of my favorites on pc but I also happen to have owned every nintendo playstation and xbox ever made along with the ancient  sega and unheard of turbo graphix 16.. I kind of collect these things lol. I am not a big fan of the controllers vs mouse and usually i just keep that junk around for my friends to play when they want to bust out some halo.  I have also played some text based games and odd games like tribal wars but none of them have kept my interest like runescape has...  I mean i loved populous and build your own empire games as well, but this new trend of so called better graphics.. i am not so impressed ... it is like everything is in a fog or haze or something. sure they have more artwork, but not clear images..like a glamour shots photo overdone lol .. tbh I get a headache looking at these hazy images on a lot of games these days. I have played more games on the lists here but since i would have to look them up to remember what they are they obviously aren't worth mentioning. Usually I can tell whether or not i am going to be hooked on a game within the first week... if it can't keep my attention that long it isn't worth me trying to make myself. .. still my all time fav game isn't even an mmorpg .. it is of course mortal kombat .. it rules forever =).

Not playing a game for  4 years that is updated every week does matter considering you are criticizing the game it was not the game it is.. you might as well be   talking about a game that doesn;t exist anymore. Yes there have been drastic changes in combat in the last 4 years, and we expect more to come .. all i see that needs to be done  to combat is less luck factor more skills. Though for the most part in pking that luck factor isn't as noticable because it is about real skill .. it only affects death matches and duels really.

Continue onward and onward. Your next sentence about combat is also why I don't play the game, you sound like a retarded kid who just learned leetspeak for his first time the other day. If you had an ounce of reading comprehnsion you would notice I said "mostly auto attack". Of course I didn't take into account spell casting.

Aiight lil boy.. don't you start flaming me.  Just because you did not take into account the numerous spell lists and how combat is really done  is not a reason to  get your undies in a wad and start name calling.  Pull your head out =x.  I graduated college .. I don't have to read anymore . rofl 

If you have never met a 10 year old that has played.. well, you're lying. Their 13 year old 'restriction' is without parent consent, and it is not enforced.

now because i don;t run around talking to 10 yr olds .. I am lying? lol No I have luckily not met any 10 yr olds .. and am wondering why this is just so hard for you to believe.   And yes the age limit is enforced.. why not ask someone who works for them. If I talked to a 10yr old i had no idea i was. but i sure didn't add any .. if I don't see a friend on cam or meet them in person they don;t go on friends list.. no creepy people pl0x. but I was only a nonmember for  2 days.. i didn't hang out there long.  I actually tried to figure out what the game was really about.

Still even if older people play the game they certainly do not show it, during the time I played everyone acted roughly the same give for those rare exceptions.

 Omg please don;t tell me your one of those 19 yr old grouchy old men already? People like to have fun , that has nothing to do with " maturity level" It has everything to do with a sense of humor. 

Also all of those 14 year olds that played back when I played are probably playing other games by now, or at least every one I knew that I kept in touch in is.

I know many 18- 25 yr olds that have played since beta.. No they are not playing other games they are clan lords now .. and not these small 12 people noob clans ... most rs clans that I know of are 180+ people each. My clan was 600+ members before i resigned because I was tired of too many people talking at once lol.

  I don't think you will find many, and for a good reason. Other MMORPG's are simply better and more advanced than what runescape is. Its great to introduce people into MMORPG's in a friendly manner,

has no idea what you are talking about since I personally have over 800 friends 18+ 

And, what do these great skills consist of? Lets break it down.

Mining: Click on rock, get ore.

Combat: click on mob, get lewt.

slayer: its just combat that tells you what to kill.

woodcutting: Click tree, get wood.

have you tried hunter? you have to chase animals, trap them, noose them  chase implings and butterflies all over the place and catch them to do the skill.. now you mentioned  mining yes you click ore get ore .. but then you have to smelt ore then make it into anything you want..  for smithing. .. why else would you get the ore?  i didn't know you could click a mob at all lol.. and to get lewt you have to pick it up after you kil someone  and make it out alive with it or you don't get to keep it... If your looting a war chances are your not going to make it out alive lol. and with woodcutting .. what do you do with those logs? you can either burn them for firemaking, make them into planks for construction, or fletch them into arrows or bows. there is alot more to it than you stated. resource gathering is all click and bank, but what you do with those resources are the whole point of the skill. Skills  are meant to be used together, not just by themselves.  With those skills you can make a house with a dungeon and put a  dragon in it and a torture chamber and execute people... with those skills you can create weapons, armor, teleport jewelry,  potions, and food.   You have so many choices as to what you want to do with them it would take you forever just to do them all. 

I never argued they didn't make money, I argued that the game is crap. Most of the population is filled with your general teens and kids around 10-13 years old anyways.

First off I have never met a 10 yr old that played .. if I did i would get them booted from the game because you have to be 13+ to play at all. Jagex requires that on their account creation screen.. just so you know you might want to take a look at that.  I have actually not met any 13 yr olds that play simply because they would rather be playing halo.  i have over 800 friends on there 18- 30 and sure I wish they would make 17+ server worlds but doubt i will see that happen on any game soon.  I really have no idea what you are talkin about thinkin kids only play that .. when most kids would go after the better graphics games like guild wars where I did have that problem.  Maybe you were just in the wrong place .. because  I have had a totally different expieriance with that .. but i have a  18+ age limit on my friends list, I don;t care to talk to lil kids all that much. Lol you know I had just the opposite problem on there thinking these people were to old to talk to lol. Like the womens clan " ladies of the red dragons" .. they have a 35+ age requirement .. lol that one threw me off i was too young to hang out with them lmao. But yea from what i see there are more older adults than kids these days.   If you are telling the truth about your age it has been 4 years since you played ... that is a loong time in game worlds lol .. just think all those 14 year olds that played back then are your age now lol.

Other MMORPG's have more to do. They have actual skills, spells to use. Runescape is like you took an MMORPG and stripped it down to just auto attack and the odd' special' from a weapon

man you are so far off on this one .. there is too much to do on runescape so much that I can't even keep up and I have been playing for years.

skills.. so  woodcutting, fletching, firemaking, crafting, mining , smithing, farming, construction, hunting, slayer, herblore,  and more ... are not skills?

And if you use auto attack in pvp then no reason you hate the game that will get you p00ned fast lmao. Who uses auto anyways?!! rofl. Everyone I know that mage pks  doesn't even carry a staff to auto cast they barrage with a whip lol.  Maybe you need to learn how to do it before you knock it lol.

(I played back in the day when I was a kid, started in RSC. Got in the mid 80's there and quit for a bit. Started up again when I was 14/15 and tried RS2 for a little bit, got up in the 90's and quit because of how bad it was.)...

So.. you haven't played it in like 4 years? With updates being done every week for the last 4 years .. you  wouldn't even recognize the game now lol...It is an ever changing game. No there is no end to it and yea  by todays standards 90 is low combat lol.

Originally posted by Nadril

The only pro it has is you can play it in a browser anywhere.

 

 

other than that there are no pros, the game sucks something fierce.

How long did you play runescape? And .. what lvl did you get your character to?

• First and foremost.. i do not think runescape sucks. I like runescape.. it is a good game  that needs some work. I don't even think they need to keep updating the monsters to no end like they have been.. but i do think they need to update the player characters... you can't even see  the faces! yes i do understand that they are running on java and  limited, but I mean the girl characters for example.. bodies just look weird lol.  I have been happy they have been adding to the armor selection.. and wouldn't mind seeing alot of the items they have been dressing npc's in introduced into player options such as the elf outfits and zmi altar mage gear .. that looks pretty cool.  * really hopes player updates come soon * Anyhow the main cause of why i see high levels that have played for years leaving is having their player accounts hacked and having everything they have worked for for years taken from them. I Think that in the case of hackers they need to Ip ban offenders for that offense , and eventually the offenders will run out of ips.  To make sure they are not mistaken about an ip addy, flag each offending addy, and have a 3 strikes rule on it. Bots and hackers should be the offenses  that would qualify for ip banning. If the same ip addy comes up associated with either 3 bots or 3 hackings or a combination of both, ban it . Sure they may have more than one ip addy, but if they keep  doing it they will eventually get them all banned. This will reduce the number of players hacking and botting in the game and hopefully ween alot of those punks out. I would love to see the abuse system given a overhaul along with customer service, because both are being abused. The abuse system is working for the abusers and not the actual victims because it is the abusers reporting the victims and getting away with it. *wishes customer service would do away with auto- responses and actually read their mail.  Now instead of just catering to the  lvl 40's ranting in their forums i wish they would listen to the higher level players , which I do give great thanks for the god wars update that is a great update for higher players, but in regards to skills as well.. Players that work hard to get 99 in something should   have it feel like 99.. the skill capes were a cruel joke lol. We have been asking for good 99 items for years and we get a goofy cape instead that makes people follow  you around and harass you more ... like 126's didn't get enough of that as it is lol.  if you have 99 attack u shouild be maxing like you do, if you have 99 def it should really be harder to hit you, Either give them a 99 item that is useful and makes that happen or fix the combat system so that 126 isn't just some even stat noob  while pkin.  They have worked hard for the levels they deserve it. The lvl 70 whining that they can't hit a 126 .. doesn't deserve to be able to hit them .. they didn't work for it.  it should be earned not given.  And higher level resources need to be made more attainable, not enough rune rocks, and they are to slow, magic trees are too slow, takes away from the  fun of the game when you work hard for something and then don't even have time to  be able to do any of it because it takes all your game time just to wait for it to respawn. I don't mind the grind to the top .. Just wishes thee was more when you get there.

Originally posted by subzerth

Very true, couldnt have said it better myself.  I was just merely responding to the previous post where she didnt play GW long enough to give herself a  chance to like the game, she also mentioned where one had to buy the game to play.  So it was a suggestion for her to try it and I truely believed that she might enjoy it since I personally played RS for a couple of years.

Peace out.

 

I did give myself time to try and like the game I only played it seriously for a month.. but have it hanging around here. I have picked it up now and then, but what I didn't like most about it was how small the teams are. the party limitations and such... I have over 800 friends that actually play runescape, so many that I cannot  use their chat system to talk to them all.  Yea I pay  for some of them  to play, so how much each membership or game costs would be taken times 10 for me wherever I go.  The only people I actually met on gws weren't worth meeting.  They were either like 13 or some creepy old bald fat dude sitting in his undies eating taco bell lol... actually I thought that guy was a girl at first .. until he showed me his pics lmao.  The people I met on rs were all 18- 30 a bit more my style. Unlike most players on these games i actually party with my friends, so getting to know them better is all apart of it for me. I have met alot of people for real that played with me .. adding fun to it all.. nothing like pkin with people you actually know not a bunch of pixels.

People assume I am a runescape hater... but I am not, If I was I wouldn't have played the game for as many years as I have. Yes.. I am very disappointed in the way they have been handling alot of issues, but there are some really great things about it that I have yet to find all in one place in another game....

The Pros of runescape:

1.You have one character that can do anything and everything equally if you choose, you can be a ranger, mage, melee or skiller equally without having to choose anything before you start... you can do what you want when you want , or do them all or nothing at all if you so chose.

2. pvp and noncombat areas.. you can skill peacefully or fight monstrs without having to worry about being ganged up on and squished before you even learn how to work the game controls.. you can max all your levels without ever stepping foot in pvp if you choose. If you want to be ganged up on there are single and  multi combat areas where you can train skills or fight whenever you want. If chaos and bloodshed anything goes all or nothing is your style go wildy and pk and join in clan wars, if you love pvp but are intimidated by the chaos of wildy, there is duel arena, fight pits, and castle wars, where you lose nothing to play. If you are a risk taker, you can stake at duel arena for millions.. there are so many options for every type of player and every type of mood when it comes to the areas on runescape for pvp. 

3. The community.. runescape is played all over the world and you can play your character on any of the worlds .. not having to create new ones everywhere you go. On every world you will find people everywhere you go from all over. While questing, skilling, training combat,  or anything.. you meet tons of people. You can talk to friends from all over the world without running up long distance bills. You do not need to know anyone playing or have a clan or guild to start, you will meet so many people while playing that you will wish you had more room on your friends list there. Runescape is friendly to both the sole player and the clans. They have many forums for people to do trade or discuss topics, They are putting in an exchange this month to make trade even easier. People on runescape age from 13- 50+ you will always  be able to find people in your age range that play . ( runescape requires you to be at least 13 yrs of age or older to play.. for those of you who think 6 yr olds are allowed. If they openly admit they are younger they can be banned for lying on their contract when setting up their account.

4.Runescape is very affordable and accessable to players everywhere. whether or not you have the fastest computer or a sad one held together with a yo yo string ( like my friend really had lol) you can still play runescape. It is great to be able to spend time with friends that do not have a lot of money to spend on games. they can play rs for free or only $5 a month without having to buy the latest video card or tons of memory.

5. runescape is endless. It  has many skills to train, and tons to do.. there is always something to do on runescape, whether you are killing goblins in lumby or slaughtering at god wars, there is never a lack of stuff to do.  Even once you max out at 126 with all 99 stats, there is always castle wars , fight pits, duel arena, clan wars and events, pking,  money making to be done. It is an ever changing game with constant updates.The only way the game ends is if you turn it off.

6. Runescape is very easy to play. There are not tons of conrols that make it confusing like a lot of other games. You can kick back and relax if you want sippin your bahama mama and still be able to get  things done in game. Though if you try that during clan wars you might get p00n3d. You can choose the pace you want when you want by doing whatever suits your mood.  It is not over complicated with buttons and controls. 

7.Security, they actually have bank pins to help protect accounts, and if your account gets stolen you can get it recovered fairly easy if you keep you billing and sign up information. Alot of games  do not offer the amount of security as they do. Yes thing can still happen  as they did to me) If it weren't for the bank pin I would have lost alot more when I was hacked.

8.character modifications, though the graphics aren't the best, your character can change everything about it except name at any time you choose. You can change hair, skin, clothes,  even gender at will. There are  too many armors and clothes in runescape to possibly collect them all, you can change everything about your outfit to suit your style or needs. You can have mage range gear on or mage range melee gear or mage range and a nurses hat anythime you want.  whether it be your shirt , pants, shorts, dress, gloves,hats, shoes whatever you can have  any combination you want. Unlike most other games where your characters options are very limited. The combinations are endless.

9. Though I have not always had a great expieriance with their customer service dept, I will commend their tech support. I had problems when I first started out with a quest, and they told me where in my bank the key I needed was.  They were really great throughout the years to me in helping me with various isues I couldn't figure out on my own.  They even investigated people using programs to cheat in trades and fighting when customer service had already sent automated response... tech responded  very well and was very helpful.. They seemed to actually care.

10. To me the Best thing about runescape is that I can have fun with my friends helping them. The generosity of others on the game as well.  Alot of people helped me along the way, though I have never asked anyone for anything ever in the game besides advice.  The friends I know for real playing and the ones I have met along the way, they have all been generous and kind, and overall really good hearted  people. Being able to have worked up from my sup3rn00bness  to being able to repay their generosity is the best part of the game for me .. yea sure I have been dissappointed in some things in runescape, I have to thank them for creating such a game that I met these good people. Thank you jagex. 

forgive my typos.. 4 am .. and i need more liquor =x.

Originally posted by dragulea

My point was: some problems can be avoided. I played Runescape for years, being a very active seller, and not once getting scammed by another player. On the other hand, during all that time, my character was hacked 3 times, although I've never visited other fan sites, never used bots, auto miners, ar anything of the sort. I never got scammed during trades because I knew how to spot any suspicios move from the other party; however hacking (or should I say mass hacking) had to do with the game's lame security system.

The idea is: if you are an honest player and you're hacked, sooner or later you will get a response from the Jagex team; but if you conduct any sort of illegal acitvity, you stand no chance - and still I think they won't ban ppl for no good reason.

Yea, when my account was hacked, I reported it and they locked it for a couple of days keeping the hacker noobs from doing any more damage to it ( thank goodness) .. but I still have no idea how it could have happened. I thought they wouldn;t ban people for being nice,  saying they were real world item trading . I felt so bad for them because I have known them for years to be good honest people. It was really sad how they were responded to.  I wish I still thought that they only banned people who did things wrong, but I know they have been mistaken on a mass scale at this point. The worst part about it is they probably won't even get the real world traders the way. they are going about it... they are the ones posting to go pk to trade and use the duels ..( as they were posting on threads in rs forums)  not the ones walking up to some kid killing cows and handing them $100k and telling him to have fun... yea someone was banned for that too=(.

No regarding the skills: there's a small trick to learn - they go in pairs (and some in group). Cooking goes in pair with fire making - and even wood cutting; mining goes hand in hand with smithing; fletching goes in pair with wood cutting; fishing goes with cooking and fire making...and so on. You can't raise one without training the others too. Some were lucky enough to have strong players and guilds cover their backs so they'd become soon masters of a certain skill (such as the first top miners and smithers - I remember when certain ppl were guarded so they'd be able to mine runite in wilderness, or craft the very first rune kites). Others had to train like hell. But in order to stay competitive, you need to train more skills than just the ones for fighting.

Yea.. the skills.. i have always trained all my skills, and I have never bought supplies for anything I have always got my own.. which people think is mad crazy for the stats i have.. but I have been playing for years as well.. I have never " bought " a skill nor have I pc'd any either .. I did it the hard way. I don't care much about being "competitive because I don;t play they game to dress up my lil pixel doll in the latest pixel fashions, I honestly play to help my friends lately, I have lvled so much that I lost my motivation on there to do anything for myself. If it weren;t for  real friends and family still playing I wouldn't even go on. .. these days they have to call my house and tell me to come on lol. To me the waiting for everything to happen on the game is what turned me off of it. The waiting to get an ore .. then waiting for it to respawn.. waiting to get a magic log then waiting for the tree to grow back... I just don't think i like playing as much as I used to because  i have worked all these levels to be able to do these things and I am not even playing most of the time i am sitting here waiting of the time... who wants to play  a game to sit there and wait?

I think you misunderstood something: you aren't "required" to report them (to be a cop, as you say), but you are required to not use offensive language at them. So if they're making you mad, add them to your ignore list. There are plenty of weird people out there who will stalk you, harass you etc. Not adding them to your ignore-list and yelling back and forth with them is just a good way for you to get black marks. Your choice, but don't complain here if you get a temp mute or ban (like you said you did) for being a prick to someone, rather than ignore-listing them. Jagex doesn't permit you to be offensive to someone, even if they're offending you. If you STILL refuse to report them, then ignoring them is your best (and frankly, your only good) option.

first off ... telling a guy to go shave his back is funny not being a " prick " as you so stated.  I think that him following me around for 30 min asking me to be his gf after I said "no ty",  and as i later found out was against the rules for him to do so, but not until I was temp banned.  I can listen to what people say ... thinks jag needs a sense of humor =x.

Your comments about the de-modding process are uninformed. All ANY p-mod needs to do is send a note to Jagex saying they don't want to be a mod anymore, and ta-da, they're de-modded. If they instead want to be a mod and abuse mod powers (like muting tons of people for no good reason, as you stated), then they'll be demodded (and probably permanently banned) rather quickly. Jagex investigates EVERY MUTE THAT IS EVER MADE (yes, seriously), so things like that never slip through.

well according to smokey .. he had sent letters for 3 weeks and was not demodded so his muting was a last straw .. i was there when it happened. he spoke openly about  it while he was doing it. and yes he was temp banned but is still playing.  

 he runescape forum policy prohibits the discussion of the fairness of specific bannings/mutings, of problems with individual jagex staff, of bugs, and of other related issues. All threads relating to those and some other topics are locked and the contents deleted when they are found. If you read the forums rules, you won't find this surprising at all.

Yes I am fully aware of all the rules.. including forum rules.  And yes that is why they will not allow people to discuss the fact that they are unfairly banning people for real world item trading when they are just trying to help people out. Not allowing that topic to be allowed in their forums would put them in  a bad light.  What I am surprised about though is that  people want to try to cover this up and pretend it does not exist. Instead of admitting they were in error and trying to correct it they want to silence the world! ... "oh no  the cattle have gone astray .. get them back to the herd or shoot them".. if I do not say " moo.. ok moo... i should be banned? treating customers like cattle is not how to show them appreciation for their  business.

If, say, each runite ore gave 500 mining xp, and each magic log gave 400 woodcutting xp, the amount of grinding necessary would be far lower and probably more enjoyable, so I agree with you there. Jagex seems to be of the opinion that the current system has worked well, for the most part, over the years it has been around, so I don't expect the experience value for these things to ever change. The game's far from perfect in my opinion, and Jagex probably doesn't care much about perfecting

you know i am not even as concerned about the xp as the time it takes to get each one .. if i could mine  or chop them faster it would help alot.. it is that they are soo slow that you want to go pk  someone inbetween the respawning just to get the frustration out of your system... it puts people on edge, instead of allowing them to relax. 

Originally posted by dragulea

Scamming, auto programs (gosh, those auto miners must be the oldest trick in the book! they should bring the "black hole" back, hehe...there are still some unused return disks flying around), and so on are not new to Runescape. Hacking has always been a problem. But these are known issues. That's why you are advised all the time to stay out of trouble as much as possible. Just play the game, be nice to everyone you meet and don't abuse the "report" button. 

Gold sellers, botters, all these low life leeches thrive on ppl stupidity - I remember ppl crying all day long about their scammed stuff, because they were stupid enough to believe that some other player could "double" their items, lol! Or because someone asked to see their gear and then hit the trade button (back in the days when trading was a single click system). Or ppl getting tricked to buy "rare" items, although those were just simple shop items (yup, the famous toy horses). And so on. Even an unexperienced MMO player should know better than to trust strangers (haven't your parents tought you anything on the matter?), especially when they're offering "gifts" for free. Be smart & honest!

Now i do give of free gifts lol .. lots of  them. I have walked into lumby and asked people to start me  fire whoever did i gave 100k to lol.  As for the scammers, beggars, and spammers..jag still hasn't taken my advice to tie them all to trees on karamja  and let othr players throw banannas at them :P As for hackers they need ip banned.  They are the worst.  Now I always try to be nice to everyone unless they give me a very good reason not to be... in that case I am inclined to let them know they are slime. .. I can't help it, no i do not swear  but i might let them know they are a flea infested prosimian... or a wanna be cross dressing jerry springer toothless call girl.. but I have to be really provoked for that of course.  I have enjoyed playing over the years, but yea i guess to me worrying about speaking my mind vs getting banned... pshh why worry ? if it happens i guess it happens . if i had to walk around with a muffin crammed up my .. nose.. in order to not go off on them I might be considered just another " high level that never talks" .. that wouldn't be fun or relaxing . I guess freedom and fun are risks that are worth taking.... good thing I talk mostly on headset and not public chat =).

Originally posted by bobdorf

Originally posted by deviliscious

the victim gets upset and says things in anger they would not normally say... the con artist reports them.. and has their fellow scammers standing around them report them ..

Easy to fix this: don't make offensive statements yourself - just report and ignore-list the tard.

so basically you are saying we should all walk around being cops? I mean  i would feel like a real dork walking around turning anyone that did something wrong instead of just telling them how i feel about them. * not everyone who plays runescape is all uptight about things.*   I mean we play to relax, and no I myself have not been scammed.. yes I have had many a noob try, but  I am not stupid enough to fall for it.  I just think it would be ridiculous  to ban someone that has a ligitimate reason to be upset. If they actually reviewed all of what happened they would clearly be able to fgure out who was in the wrong.

2 weeks later the scammer is  mod .. yes i have seen it happen first hand .. they didn't scam me ( isn't that gullable) but were scamming right in front of me then wow .. at whips in falyw2 the scammer has a crown next to his name ... scamming whips proudly. yes that was a sad site to see. 

Please report anyone and everyone who you find scamming, trading accounts, macroing, etc. Jagex DOES de-mod and ban player moderators regularly (several every week). Jmods are human and do make mistakes when they mod people, but my experiences show me they fix their mistakes ASAP.

I wish they would but i mean honestly from my expierance even when they have a mod that doesn't want to be one has to go as far as muting edgeville for fun in order to make it happen. yes everyone who spoke in  edge was muted... because they would not listen. ( as smokeydapoth once did) though i thought that itself was pretty funny he did have to go to extreme to get his modship finally removed.

Hackers.. no they do not hack the game they hack accounts.. and i too thought that you had to have a keylogger/ virus or give out passwords for it to happen .. but i was wrong. I have never allowed anyone on my accounts and am not some kid that would be stupid enough to give out my information....I don;t even think it was anyone i knew because they would have obviously hacked my higher lvl account instead of my lower one considering they had same pass.. and everyone i knew on my lower acc knew there was no $ on there and knew me on both accs. but sure it was hacked ..  they tried to delete pin , but i caught it and recovered it in time. it was not a short password or a word you could find in the dictionary, and a friend of mine brought it to my attention there is a runescape password guessing program out there. 

Brute-force password 'hacks' do exist, but the person would have to hack/bypass the log-in system (Jagex has a limited log-in sequence that only gives you ~3 tries in any 60 second period). If they didn't somehow bypass the log-in security, they would literally take millenia to bruteforce your password. Change your password once a year and that will never happen to you. Moreover, I've never heard any credible report of a person's account being 'hacked'. If you're being honest about your experience, then I'd say it's much, much, much more likely that someone you know somehow got your password (one of those 10 people you pay for could have seen you type it in, installed a software or hardware keylogger on your system, or guessed your recovery information, for instance...not saying they did, but I do think that's far more likely than someone hacking your lower level account specifically - a good barometer of account security generally is that the top-Hiscore people would make much better targets, yet you never hear of them being hacked).

And another topic of potential interest: Jagex rules explicitly state that you are ONLY allowed to pay for yourself and your immediate family members. You and your friends may, possibly, be banned if Jagex finds you paying for them, if they're not your immediate family members. Probably not going to happen since they'd rather have the money, but it's a possibility.

First off i have 2 real brothers and 4 real sisters that play that i pay for and no none of them have seen me log in. I pay for 2 accounts for myself and the other 2 accounts are my friends in college who i send a check every year to them and they make the payment themselves, I  am not breaking any rules because I only make payments on my behalf directly  to jagex for myself and immediate family. The others have to use the money i send them to pay, and no they don;t give me items in game .. infact i  give them items in game to help them out because they do not have time to do alot with all their classes.  And since i happen to play on a laptop .. noone has ever seen me log in. That is not an option. I keep my computer up to date and do not accept files or downloads.  I have 2 virus scanners and 4 firewalls.. I am completely sure that I have never had a keylogger or virus.  but yea i still had an account that i do not even play on that much hacked  and it didn't make sense to me either. and btw  I change my pass every month.. not every year.

but what i do see continueally expecially recently an increase in these odd occurance hackings and they could be greatly decreased if jagex actually made an attempt to investigate them further.  and with their appeal system if you are banned unfairly .. for example for giving a friend $ or a gift on the game they call it real world item trading and will refuse all appeals... I have seen alot of that lately, with people i know for a fact would never even think of such a thing.  they are banning your grannies and teachers lol.. a friends parents both banned for giving items to kids. madness i tell you madness!

I haven't heard of this anywhere but these forums. I'd say it probably happens, but not as often as some people want to claim. My only defense for Jagex is that they do make mistakes...and I'd hate to have that happen to me.

 read runescape forums the issue has been going for a while , but according to forum mods it is a " sensitive subject" and i was told by the mod there that i should not give large amounts of anything to anyone and especially to lvl 3's that i do not know.  The mod also informed me that we are not to discuss the subject as it is a matter jagex takes very seriously and they are forced to lock the threads. At least that one was courteous enough to answer some questions on the matter before they did.  the titles i was aware of in forums on this matter were" unbalanced trades illegal? " in recent updates and " kindness bannable ? " in rants i think. but there were many more those were just the ones I read.

 

another big issue as to why a lot of 120+ combat on game leave is the combat and reward system. they torture you not reward you after you get so high. pkin is over with the exception of clan wars after 120.. the higher lvl you get the longer you have to wait .. nothing is harder except how long it takes to do everything. chop magic logs, fish sharks, mine rune ... everything takes soo much longer. like you worked soo hard to just wait for everything to happen.  waiting to me is not fun..

I think even proponents of Runescape will admit that leveling rapidly is a whole lot of not-so-fun grinding. The increasing experience required to level as you go progressively higher generally requires tens to hundreds of hours of efficient (or thousands of hours of inefficient), boring grinding to reach levels in the 90s. When it comes to mining rune and chopping magics, yeah you're going to have to wait unless you're lucky enough to be alone with more trees/rocks than you can handle. That's the way the game has been for so many years, though, so it shouldn't surprise you. As to fishing sharks, just wiggle your mouse every 80 seconds and you won't log out (the log-out time is 90 seconds of inactivity, I think?). Yes it's boring, but if you want to train fishing or amass an enormous shark stockpile, then you do what you have to do. If that's not fun for you and you're not motivated to do it, then please go for a different activity. Runescape does have a lot of skills to mess around with, so when you're exceedingly bored with one just move onto another. If the whole game is not fun for you, please don't play? You can figure these things out for yourself.

I have never said that the game wasn't fun for me or i would not have been playing for all these years,  I am saying they take the fun out of it once you get higher levels.  I don;t even have a problem with the amount of xp it takes to level between lvls even to get my 99's what would make it better would be the amount of time it takes you to mine rune, the amount of rune ores available in game ect... i mean what is the point of getting the lvls to make rune when it will take you forever to get an ore? the fact is that people going for 99 don;t mine addy or rune .. they mine iron because after that everything  takes so long it makes you crazy.  i was saying it would be nice if they made it worth while to get the levels.

and like while your trying to fish sharks all you do is sit there and wait and it logs you out after a few fish. after working so hard to get the levels in the game it would be nice if they actually gave you something for your efforts and not a useless cape that causes people to follow you around and ask you to do sily emotes .. ( again another punishment)  the catering to the lower levels and ignoring the players that pay for years is not good customer service... those kids complaining about being lvl 40 won't continue paying anyhow... they rant then they leave to go play halo. they have memberships off and on .. not pay for 10 memberships ( like me ). noo they ban me for 3 days for telling a guy that was following me around for 30 min asking me to be his gf " to go shave his back " yes i was seriously banned for that exact  statement  saying that i was abusive to another player... but yet lets make the scammers mods!  i have been hoping another game worth playing will come out so I can pay for 10 memberships there.. but it hasn't arrived.

Report, ignore-list, no problem :) And again, Jagex de-mods and bans mods it finds to be cheaters. Almost daily. Seriously.

You know it is funny .. i have no one in my ignore list and I have played for years. I do not use offensive language .. I do not need to.. i have a dictionary.  I  have reported people not for saying silly stuff .. if i did that I could not look at myself in the mirror. I do report people scamming and bots ... for a kid that is asking you to be his gf ... you should be able to tell him to buzz off without having to make a big deal out of it.  I personally think reporting for something like that would be ridiculous.  I mean do you really want to even play a  game that everyone walks around afraid to speak their minds? seriously?

 

 

 

lol... role playing ... hahah!! ok .. yea when like someone gets "too" into a game it is just plain creepy... your like thinkin to look up shrinks in the yellow pages and give them the number =x.. games are way better when people stay real lol.

In my 4 years with runescape i have seen alot of  issues... though i do not think that  them selling gold themselves or having bots is one of them.  And even though the bots are annoying and they should try harder to rid themselves of them, i do not think the games biggest issues are that. Why do most people i know leave the game? 1. customer support / abuse sytem... the abuse system is terribly abused that it basically works for the abusers not the victims of abuse. people scam .. the victim gets upset and says things in anger they would not normally say... the con artist reports them.. and has their fellow scammers standing around them report them .. 2 weeks later the scammer is  mod .. yes i have seen it happen first hand .. they didn't scam me ( isn't that gullable) but were scamming right in front of me then wow .. at whips in falyw2 the scammer has a crown next to his name ... scamming whips proudly. yes that was a sad site to see.  Hackers.. no they do not hack the game they hack accounts.. and i too thought that you had to have a keylogger/ virus or give out passwords for it to happen .. but i was wrong. I have never allowed anyone on my accounts and am not some kid that would be stupid enough to give out my information....I don;t even think it was anyone i knew because they would have obviously hacked my higher lvl account instead of my lower one considering they had same pass.. and everyone i knew on my lower acc knew there was no $ on there and knew me on both accs. but sure it was hacked ..  they tried to delete pin , but i caught it and recovered it in time. it was not a short password or a word you could find in the dictionary, and a friend of mine brought it to my attention there is a runescape password guessing program out there.  but what i do see continueally expecially recently an increase in these odd occurance hackings and they could be greatly decreased if jagex actually made an attempt to investigate them further.  and with their appeal system if you are banned unfairly .. for example for giving a friend $ or a gift on the game they call it real world item trading and will refuse all appeals... I have seen alot of that lately, with people i know for a fact would never even think of such a thing.  they are banning your grannies and teachers lol.. a friends parents both banned for giving items to kids. madness i tell you madness!

another big issue as to why a lot of 120+ combat on game leave is the combat and reward system. they torture you not reward you after you get so high. pkin is over with the exception of clan wars after 120.. the higher lvl you get the longer you have to wait .. nothing is harder except how long it takes to do everything. chop magic logs, fish sharks, mine rune ... everything takes soo much longer. like you worked soo hard to just wait for everything to happen.  waiting to me is not fun.. and like while your trying to fish sharks all you do is sit there and wait and it logs you out after a few fish. after working so hard to get the levels in the game it would be nice if they actually gave you something for your efforts and not a useless cape that causes people to follow you around and ask you to do sily emotes .. ( again another punishment)  the catering to the lower levels and ignoring the players that pay for years is not good customer service... those kids complaining about being lvl 40 won't continue paying anyhow... they rant then they leave to go play halo. they have memberships off and on .. not pay for 10 memberships ( like me ). noo they ban me for 3 days for telling a guy that was following me around for 30 min asking me to be his gf " to go shave his back " yes i was seriously banned for that exact  statement  saying that i was abusive to another player... but yet lets make the scammers mods!  i have been hoping another game worth playing will come out so I can pay for 10 memberships there.. but it hasn't arrived.