Originally posted by Romanjisan
The whole idea of a Star Trek MMO just needs to ride off into the nearest nebula. I'm a long time fan of the franchise, but let's face it, folks - the whole franchise is basically dead. It's over forty years old and its glory days are over. We need to let our Star Trek heros rest in peace. Besides, can anyone imagine just how horribly difficult it would be to make a decent MMO out of this franchise? Will there be away teams as well as ship traveling? How big will the game universe be? How large will the choice of races be? There were a LOT of races in the Star Trek universe. Where will the timeline of the game be? From TOS? TNG? The fact that the whole idea got passed to another studio after three or four years of hype should tell us something. I hate to break the news to everyone, but it's not gonna happen, nor should it. Meanwhile, there's always Warhammer Online or Age of Conan just around the corner!

I'm glad no one listened to you and that STO is about to hit stores.

I'd say you have to give them some credit. Having a space game and a ground game all in a single package is a very large feat. Star Wars Galaxies didn't launch its space pack untill a year after launch. EVE Online still has no form of ground or interior combat. So what cryptic is doing is unseen in most MMOs, having two forms of gameplay in one game at launch.

With that said its easy to see that ships would look better than characters. I say this because the ships don't realy have moving parts. The player avatars have to have a large ammount of animation in them so with the technology they have and the resources your computer has to work with its fair to say ships would and should look better than the avatars.

I will agree the footage I've seen has looked a bit choppy however as stated in a differnt thread it seems Cryptic couldn't thread a good gameplay movie togather if their life depended on it lol. I've never been let down by a cryptic game when it comes to gameplay (CO let me down due to a lack of things to do, but the core gameplay was good in my mind in the fact that it was the same as COH). With that said I sitll have faith in Cryptic. Afterall I've been following STO since the Prepetual days so I'm just happy to see a release date thats only months away and an actual beta happening. As for undercooked stuff... hell they can cook it more when the game launches I don't care I just want to play it lol.

I know I would buy it.

Originally posted by thedfw

I think space in this game is going to be really awesome.  I love the way it looks and the game mechanics behind fighting with the shields, etc.  But does anyone else feel that the ground element seems a bit undercooked?  I mean graphics wise too, it seems a notch down from space combat.

And could someone explain what this Genesis thing is?  Someone told me you can make your own (or the game makes its own) random planet environments for you to explore.  Is that true?  That's pretty nifty if so, it would allow for an unlimited amount of places to go.  However, I can also see that being limited so it might not truly be that interesting if it just randomly throws a planet map together.  No thought would be put behind it.  But I'm not 100% sure that's even really in the game.

I think the ground aspect of the game looks great, but we won't realy know untill the game launches and we all get a chance to play it. Now as for the Genesis thing you're talking about, that is a built in engine in the game that randomly creates new planets for you to discover and explore. So you get a mission from the Empire (or Starfleet) to explore the Beta Uta Pi Sector... so you go to the BUP Sector and find planet 1. You as a player are able to name the planet (or so I read a while ago, on the offical forum they have a list of confirmed features) and then explore it. So what the Genesis engine does is creates new planets for players to explore and name. It even creates races to populate the planets with and you can convince these NPCs to join your crew or join your faction. They added it because some of the core aspects of Trek are exploration and first conatact. You couldn't have Trek without first contacts. Again check the offical forums over at Startrekonline.com to get a list of all the confirmed features.

I'd pay upto $25 for a good sandbox game with free expansion that sounds like a good deal because I won't have to spend $35-50 extra each year for a normal expansion.

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Originally posted by Kalmarth

About time they put this kind of thing into games, for far to long we have strayed for the word of the lord and people need to stop this perversion that if cross gender playing, we were made this way by our lord and this is the way we should be view by the world, I'm all for it perhaps DNA testing keyboards, or always on Webcams so there will be no taking pic of there girlfriend as a way around it.

 

Ok ok I'm joking someone get these guys a big cup of STFU and wave bye bye to there game as it sinks into the pit of games that will never get played.

The only reason for this is so that the CSR's can cyber knowing that it is a girl, I would LOVE to see the transcript of the guy that got burnt SO bad that they want to put this kind of ruling in :) 

 

Thanks for the LOL will spread this one far and wide :) 

Lol good one you got me for a moment there I was about to pull out the claws and attack you. Yah that is a good point, honestly though its all about sexism and fear. Its about that macho idea "I don't want to hit on a girl and find out its a man," when in all reality they'd be lucky if any human being would reply to their advances rofl. Cross gender gaming is fine, if you need a relationship then get off your PC and go out and meet someone. Kudos to your post you got me for a second.
 

I hope they go out of buisness, I hope that this stupid company and their backwards pathetic ideals go down the drain as fast as possible. Its sad to see when the world moves backwards. I've never heard of a whole professional company that is homophobic, its shocking but at the same time to be expected. It saddens me to hear that sexism is on the rise again, women won their battle but it seems men have a battle to win of their own. Long live the freedom of expression!!!

Funny thing is this can easily be explained with one word: STO.

Now you're probably wondering what Star Trek Online has to do with Champ-O, well as most of you know Cryptic is creating STO. If you follow the history of STO like I do you'll note that origonally it was being developed by a company called Prepetual Entertainment. Before PE got the rights to STO they were making a game called Gods and Heroes: Rome Rising. Funny thing is when they got the rights to STO PE seemed to stop work on GnH, I was in beta and I was supprised to find that PE had canned the game that was so close to launch. Now then Cryptic gets STO, and STO is considred to be a gem... a true money making potential, like uber! So Cryptic pulls a Prepetual but they stop short of caning Champ-O rather they just push it out the door and put all their funds into STO because they want STO to be their flagship game. Funny thing is Champ-O was in development for nearly a year before Cryptic got STO and then all of the sudden they get STO and development on STO ramps up big time. Within months we have full on screenshots, and mind you they chose not to use PE's old engine and material, they started from scratch. Now only two months or so after Champ-O launched STO is in closed beta.

Well with that story I tell you that Champ-O has suffered from neglect. Cryptic fell into the STO curse and used Champ-O to fund continued development on STO. Does this mean Champ-O is a gimick, of course not but it could have used a few more months of development with a beefier development team however Cryptic must have thought those people were better spent on STO. Personally I'm an STO fan at heart, however I'm also a Champ-O fan (or was) and I wish that Champ-O had been better at launch. Thats my 2 cents on the topic.

I couldn't agree more, I'm actually about to cancel my account and this is one of the major reasons for it. Oh well I think I'll just not play MMOs for a while or go back to older games like EQ2, AoC, or LoTRO for a while untill STO and SWOR come out.

Anyone know at this point who owns the IP to GnH:RR?

Originally posted by veritas_X

I don't think its been that long since a proper sandbox was on the market, I'd say SWG circa 2005 fit the bill of just about everything you described.

Otherwise I agree with most of your points, with particular kudos to the non-combat options and XP as an anti-social mechanic.  Hopefully some development types hear you.

I was thinking the same thing and thats because SWG when it was first in development had a lot of ex-uo developers on its team. Its a shame that SOE beat the UO out of SWG because in my mind its what made that game great. I agree with Dana however... we need a new game that fits that bill.

Thank you very much. I ended up getting back into the game and they let me into the faction so now I'm helping to rebuild the ranks of the Empire.

I love StarQuest Online however when I got into it I felt as though I got into a TV show half way through. With that I left the game after friends had told me that the Klin were in beta as a playable faction and I vowed to return to SQO when they came out of beta and any subscriber could join in as one of them. With that said I've looked back for months to find info on when the race will be playable however I haven't found any. So I wanted to ask those that are playing, any news on when they'll be playable?

Originally posted by Ettirxa

probably some info will come out at one of the game conventions, this summer if not then probably at the fanfest in october. There was a recent forum post from a dev saying that the artwork is mostly there and the code is running but they are finding some gameplay issues cropping up.

"Walking in Stations / Ambulation is being worked on. There's art on hard drives, code running, server code running and people working on designs. We did a small preview at last fanfest, got a lot of positive ( and not so positive ) feedback, and are iterating on the designs. It will be released when it's ready... "

taken from this link:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1060452&page=2

 

 

Thank you very much that was just what I was looking for. I honestly can't wait for WIS. I love EVE and in my mind it'll only make it way better to me as I'm an RPer and RPing as a ship or via text boxes gets old at times. So by having an avatar a hous and a corp HQ things should be a lot more interesting for us RPers. Thanks again for the info.

I remember the dev team showing off some Walk-in-stations about six or more months ago. I've just returned to the game and I'm surfing around looking for info on how the development is coming along but sadly I seem to be blind to the topic. Anyone have any news on this as it is a feature I'm very much looking forward to.

No. Some people like to hide the mean things they do under the guise of RP but in all reality I think RPing and Ganking is even worse. Sure you are Roleplaying and pretending to be someone you arn't but you are always responsible for your actions... always.

If you're a mean person than by all means gank away, but if moraly you feel like causing people grief is wrong then don't regardless of your "character". To pretening to be a monster will only make you into one.

Good for you... now go get a PS3 :D I just got a PS3 and honestly I don't even use my Xbox 360 anymore because PS3 = Free Online play!

Originally posted by haddock1

Good question. Dont think anyone knows. Bet it takes a couple of days, if not more before we, "the others" unlucky bastards can buy it.

Its already been half a week so I wouldn't hold your breath... my guess is the way the news is flowing out of Aventurine and the community that one month sounds like a good bet. Think on the bright side, at least we don't have to deal with lag spikes, downed servers, over camped regions and all the other not so wonderful things that happen when MMOs launch. When we get on hopefuly the bugs are worked out and the masses of people have difused over the levels giving us a calm and fun experience. Seriously though a month sounds like a safe bet.

So I haven't been following Darkfall very close but I've been interested on and off for a few years. Now that its out I have to laught a bit... their front webpage says beta, yet the game is out? I'm assuming its because they have way to many players and not enough server? Any ETA on when the general public who didn't preorder can try and get on it, honestly I can wait a few weeks because from what I'm reading DF hasn't has a smooth launch which is actualy rather common and why I'm not foaming at the mouth to play it right now. Any answers?