Originally posted by I_Return

a fact is an exact number. This is not factual data, it is investor fluff to pull the declining stock  up before things get worse. Thanks fo rthe read though, it is defininetly panic mode at EA and Bioware when they need to talk numbers this early in the game.

 

Investor expected  5 million + sub sales.... they expected WoW like numbers, anything less was a failure to "an investor"

 

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/32605/Analyst_Wary_EA_Investors_Betting_Against_SWTOR.php

 

Your article there is over a year old.

Originally posted by VirusDancer

CoX is kind of funny - depending on your rig, you can actually get better performance from higher settings than lower settings.

It definitely heats up the CPU more than other games for me.  Other games barely touch the CPU temp and just heat up the GPU.  CoX on the other hand, heats up the CPU and barely touches the GPU.

Older games like Everquest 2 and CoH tend to use more CPU resources than GPU. I guess that GPUs sucked more than 7 years ago, so graphics were designed to be more CPU intensive.

Please get rid of the RMT for the English version too. Otherwise, I have no interest in it.

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Sith warriors out number Jedi.  Its official.  Everyone roll republic now, mkay?

 

I'm surprised that both classes are so ballanced actually.

Originally posted by PukeBucket

 

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Originally posted by dead2soon

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Originally posted by Ashlinde
this announcement doesnt sit well with me... considering between digital and box preorders there were supposed to be around 1.5-2million PREORDERS... meaning more now that launch is on....

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There are probably a bunch that will sit under xmas trees but 500k to 1M of em seems far fetched.

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There's also going to be the Star Wars / BioWare fans who never touched a MMO that will be confused by the "credit card is needed to access this game" process.

I know to us it seems like someone has to be completely daft.

But I got some good friends who are exceptionally intelligent people just hating the process. Of course 2 of them are Canadian, but we won't hold that against them.

I'm just saying of the 2 million, there's a good chunk who are parents thinking they're buying their kids a Star Wars game and they're not going to be happy when fees are applied.

Now a days it's a common enough concept tho' that it probably won't be a 500k drop problem. But there are some issues out there with it currently that I've seen in my fellow nerd circles.

What does this have to do with anything? I'm Canadian and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being Canadian.

Originally posted by Uronksur

Nice, but a bit premature. The more telling statistic will be the number of subscriptions at the 1-month mark when people start to get billed.

I like how the bar for success for this game has to constantly keep moving when the haters are faced with the news that this game is doing well.

I pre-ordered, but I'm at my parents house for Christmas and haven't had a chance to play at all. Also the game didn't get delivered to my house until TODAY.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by adam_nox

User reviews mean nothing on metacritic.

Exactly.

 

User reviews are a joke on metacritic.

Originally posted by CityHam

After all the hoopes these bastards make you jump, the final insult is this, after pre buying and then buying the physical copy, they shit on us by forcing us to give them our credit card information, cus thats the only thing on there mind, to suck as much money from our poor sobs as possible.

 

Any one familiar with business law please tell me if there is a solid foundation for this ?

 

its like buying food at a restaurant : forking out cash even before you get in there, then paying full price before you get to enjoy the low quality of this steaming turd of a game.

 

while the dish is ready in the kitchen, suddenly you need to give them your credit card so they can charge you at a later date, -should you make the mistake of walking to there direction.

 

I for one had little repsect for this game in beta, buying this turd just to play with friends, for the love of god bring out GW2 or any next gen MMO.

 

Shit : UI, GFX, PvP, PvE, WORLD, lol random IP/server herp.'

 

This game is near ready for Beta and its officially, people have been mentioning bugs like the UI for months and nothing happens, -this tub of shit will loose 50% of the players in 6 months.

You must be new to MMOs as this is what EVERY SINGLE MMO EVER does.

Comparing the WoW numbers to the TOR numbers on XFire, I'd say that TOR very easily has 4.5 million players at the moment.

I think the only thing it would take for TOR to hit it out of the park right now is a new huge content/new game features update every month for the next three to four months and then regular large content updates every four to six months.

Originally posted by Entropy14

Ya for sure , imagine that at this time of the  day, 7am est , that the servers on a tuesday morning are not full.

 

Also probably a few people not able to get in due to the fact that thousands are trying to access the site all at the same time.

 

 

This game will be MAJOR fail, only 2 million people will be playing by the 20th. Shame on you guys , should of had at least 50 million copies sold by now to consider this a success.

This game is MAJOR fail. There should be 17 billion people playing MINIMUM, and if there isn't, then Bioware obviously has done a terrible job.

Good riddence to bad rubbish.

Originally posted by biggarfoot

I'm expecting this to be one of the biggest launches in history if not the biggest, and i'm expecting GW2 to surpass this even.

I seriously doubt that. Mainly because GW2 is completely unknown outside of MMORPG circles.

Originally posted by DarkPony

Originally posted by bobfish

Its not the CE vendor, it is just one of the vendors in the VIP area, which is free to access the area for CE & DDE owners, or you can buy access for one million credits.

The CE vendor is an Ithorian.

So a normal edition player can get an access pass to the VIP area and can buy stuff from vendors there apart from the special CE vendor, is this right?

 

From what I understand they only made the VIP lounge visitable for 1 million credits during the beta. Normal players won't have access after launch.

Originally posted by JeroKane

Originally posted by Paragus1

I think the timeless problem with MMO's that are made through this theme park type formula is that developers will never be able to create and launch content at a speed faster than players can consume it.  It's not a knock at this game specifically, it's just the reality.   If subscribers get through the content and constantly find themselves waiting for the next content to come out, there is a high likelyhood people will get bored and lose interest.  I'm not sure I believe that somehow "this game will be different" in this regard because it has never been the case with any game to date using this formula.

That's because SW:TOR is pure combat / story focused.

Next to some crappy PVP and lazy crafting, there is nothing else to do in SW:TOR!

So when people consumed the storydriven PVE content, the only thing left will be the same ol' same ol' gear/Raiding threadmill.

SWG (pre-NGE) was great and loved by many, because of all the non-combat / social elements it had!

Player cities, deep crafting, housing, collecting. It's what created those greatly missed server communities /sigh

TOR is NOT SWG2. No matter how much you want it to be, it isn't. I can't believe this still needs to be repeated.

Originally posted by Distopia

Some highlights from the review.

"The gameplay in Star Wars The Old Republic is absolutely horrible. Just like World of Warcraft, Rift, or any other themepark MMO"

"It’s a StarWars WoW Clone. Starwars games have been done to death"

"One thing that’s sort of an innovation is companions. There very creapy"

"This is not the game your looking for."

 

As an aside: Holy spell-check batman.... Creapy? Your? There? Star Wars one word?

I thought you might not be serious, but no, this review is that poorly written.

Issue 21 is "Convergece," this is a special release for Issue 21.

As a huge fan of CoH, I'd say it's about time for City of Heroes 2.

Here is some interesting news: http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1214004p1.html

Over 2 million people played last beta weekend, and collectively they logged over 9 million hours. Does that mean the average player just played 4.5 hours during the entire weekend? However the article says that the average player played over 12 hours during the weekend.

Originally posted by korat102

Originally posted by Xondar123

I'd say that any PC gamer who ISN'T on Steam probably doesn't like video games very much, or doesn't like their money very much. Steam is incredibly convenient and really cheap.

Until the owners of Steam decide they're not getting as much money as they could elsewhere and pull the plug. Where does that leave all those people who reply on their service to activate/play games? Having a place to download things from is fine, having to activate things online using a third party when you've bought DvD/CD's retail is ridiculous and will lead to lots of people having coasters in a few years time.

Personally I'd rather miss out on a few games than put all my gaming eggs in one steaming basket.

Valve has stated that A) they are making money hand over fist. They found that whenever they hold a sale, the number of units bought after the sale skyrockets because of word of mouth. One example they gave is Borderlands, which is actually on sale today at 75% off for $4.99. B) Gabe Newell has gone on records as saying that if, for any reason, Steam has to be shut down, they will give users ample warning and let them download and save all their games with the Steam DRM removed.

It's really about trust. I refused to buy into Steam until late 2009 at which point the Orange Box went on sale for $2.99. I did my research and found that Valve tends to take account security, customer service, and ample sales into account. The only game I bought for full price on Steam was L.A. Noire, and that is because I really, really, really want Rockstar to put GTAV on PC.

But don't take my word for it, do some research and see what you think.

I voted an NCSoft MMO, specifically City of Heroes. Though it's F2P so I could go back at any time.