Originally posted by Quizzical

You're missing an optical drive.

The power supply is all right, but hardly excellent.  Teapo capacitors and voltage regulation that barely stays in spec are hardly "excellent".  There's no sense in paying that much for an all right power supply unless you really want one that is modular.

Why a 990X motherboard?  If you want CrossFire/SLI, then get 990FX and do it right.  And if you don't, then save some money and get a 970 motherboard.

If you're comparing Intel processors to AMD, then four faster cores beat eight slower cores in programs that don't scale well beyond four cores, which includes essentially all games.  And AMD's eight have enough stuff shared that Intel's four faster cores might beat AMD's eight slower cores in that lower bin even in games that do scale flawlessly to eight cores.

Neither Vishera nor Windows 8 are relevant if the original poster isn't getting them.  If you assume he's going to upgrade, then you're telling him to pay $200 for a processor now, and then another $300 in about six months or so to upgrade.  So you end up paying $500 to end up with a processor that isn't necessarily better than what you can get for $300 from Intel today.  That's crazy.

I am not sure you really need an optical drive today. In a few years they will be as gone as the floppy drives are now. Of course it makes installing windows a lot easier (even if you can do it from a network or from a flash memory) and it means you can´t install games from CD or listen to old music CDs but he could actually survive without it.

Agreed with the 970 motherboard, crossfire/SLIisn´t worth it unless you use 2 high end GFX cards. A single good card beats 2 medium range cards any day and paying for stuff you wont use is never good.

Originally posted by sanosukex.

normally true,  although with a game that's already released in another country this type of beta is more for performance bugs and translation issues.. The actual gameplay aside from balance stuff isn't really going to change. If you are unhappy with how the game plays and looks or whatever now don't expect anything differn't at launch

Well, they are also testing out the servers, but yeah, if you don´t like the game right now it is probably just not for you.

Of course MMOs do change eventually but that usually takes years.

Do you plan to overclock the CPU?

Because otherwise is the standard fan good enough. 

And yes, I agree with Qizz on the SSD, get the 128 Gb one instead. You really want the game you like on the SSD since it cuts down loading time so much and particularly MMOs tend to be large.

Originally posted by WellzyC

This weekend I decided to have a buddy over to show him the new place I had moved into. So we drank beers and to kill some time I gave him the full GW2 tour and explained why I’m excited for it. He is a newer gamer and started playing WoW near the end of Burning Crusade. He has also played many games after that, like Rift, and now SWTOR. His reaction to what I had showed him inspired me to ask this question about new gamers. But let me start with giving some perspective.

Old school MMO gamers like me have a different attitude towards MMO's I think. Back before the Clone War days embracing change in a game was common place. Games that we had played did not rely on one style of game play. UO was drastically different than EverQuest which was drastically different than Asheron's Call which was drastically different than DAOC, you get the point.

But my friend has never had this gaming diversity that the older MMO gamers are used to. All the MMO’s that my friend has ever played used that WoW clone formula. So when I was showing him GW2 he started barking the same complaints that we have all heard from ppl who played WoW as their first game. WTF no Raids?! WTF Tiny Hotbar? WTF no quest? To my surprise he was completely uninterested in this game because it did not have the element that, to him, is what makes an mmo --- well an mmo. For him if it didn’t have the WoW template than it was not a real MMO.

When the game releases, will the attitude that my friend had be a common reaction? Will Clone War Era gamers have trouble letting go of that WoW template they are used to? And will Guild Wars 2 have more trouble getting off the ground because of WoW gamer prejudice?

The same is more or less true for all genres now, all FPS or RTS use the same mechanics so I think it is kinda of a generation thing.

When I started gaming you more or less had to learn to play every single game from scratch and they could give you some really nasty surprises.

I miss that, EA and Activision have destroyed an entire generation of gamers with their generic crap.

Let´s hope that a counter revolution changes things again.

Originally posted by InFaVilla

About 1: The main purpose of a RPG is to entertain; which does not necessarily mean that it has to be fun. A good example of this is the soap opera known as Final Fantasy X, which stirred plenty of different emotions outside of just "having fun", but it sure was entertaining. 

The Sims is an even better example, a friend told me it wasn´t fun so I asked her why she still played it and she told me she couldn´t stop... :D

Originally posted by fiontar

Originally posted by NBlitz

I see TERA, F2P, TERA, F2P and I just shake my head...

"a certain something", "general F2P feeling". Could you be any more vague? I've tried many F2P titles and the production quality is what gives a game the F2P stench.

So you're saying the production quality in TERA can be compared to that of Asian F2P games???

Why don't I see the same being said about a certain other inexplicably expensive title which is ultimately a steaming pile of turd? Oh right, it's not Asian.

Just the opposite for me. TERA feels like one of the better Asian F2P games might feel IF it had high production values. The game follows essentially the same formula, but looks and feels a lot better while doing it.

The closest F2P game I can think of is Forsaken world, but Tera is better made.

Originally posted by lalartu

Aion like

confusing and meaningless hehe. 

I tried it a few times and it was just too complicated (not in a good way) for me to enjoy. 

the hack n slash system is what this game has going for it

It was pretty simple to me at least.

Not anything strange, you learn to craft the item by buying or looting a recipe. Then you get all the ingredients which is some pre made and some stuff you gather yourself, click on the crafting station and just make the item.

Compared to Vanguard and EQ2 it felt really basic, maybe a little more complicated than Wow.

Not horrible but nothing special either.

Originally posted by Qazaam

Glad to see those NCSoft dollars at work (sorry, had to go there!!!!)

It looks smooth and well done, for sure.  I'm seriously considering getting my hands on this.

Lol, I can´t say I care where the code is from as long as it is solid.

But you should try it out before buying it. The basics works, but how fun the game really is when you play it is something you need to find out yourself.

MMOs is not just an investment of money but on your time as well so trying it out before actually buying it is almost a must.

Originally posted by Qazaam

Lore, during his live stream, said that tab-targeting mmo combat is much more challenging and fun than TERA's action combat (he was level 3 :P).   He basically ripped the game to shreads the entire time I watched actually :P

I thought it actually felt pretty refreshing myself, I am so tired of tab combat that I want to puke on it. Deciding how challenging combat is after 3 levels is pretty sad.

Gary Gannon tweeted last night that he made it to level 11 and that's all he could stand.  

That I can understand, sometimes a game just don´t work out for you.

Mike B says to wait if you were thinking about purchasing.

That is a good advice. See a little more than just the starting area at least.

Taugrim criticized the PvP aspects saying that everybody will make tiny characters for a smaller hitbox.

Yeah. That is a problem. They should balance it by making small characters do a little less damage or something. But that smaller creatures are harder to hit is rather logical, it just needs the right balancing.

Hmmm...I don't know - I was thinking about getting this game - is it really that bad? I actually see quite a few folks saying it's pretty good.  It's hard to tell the difference between the adrenaline and elation of a new game and what's really happening.

As with any game: You should try it out yourself.

It have the basics which is a good engine and few bugs, if the rest works for you or not is something only you can decide. I had pretty fun trying it out but I am not so sure I will actually buy it. Then again, I probably know after the beta is over.

Originally posted by Zylaxx

AoC was different, Tabula Rasa was different, APB reloaded was different, Auto Assault was different, Star trek online was different, DCUO was different.......I think yo ucan see where I am going with this.

Im happy you like it but truth be told this game will crap out in the west, and the hundred of negative reports coming in makes SWToR haters look like rabid fanboys lol.

TERA is at least well made and competently coded. Besides some lag spikes I didn´t see a single bug in the game.

The games on your list on the other hand had plenty of them even after release.

TERA might not do good in the west or might become F2P fast, that is possible but the game have more in common with Rift and LOTRO than STO and Auto assault. 

TERA have both a good art team and competent programmers and that might not be enough but it is at least the minimum to not fail.

Originally posted by Methos12

Originally posted by Velera

Prime example of why you shouldnt judge a game based on the first 20 levels, the combat can be modified ALOT by glyphs later on, and you will be able to cast alot of stuff on the move with the right ones equipped.

The first 20 levels barely showcase what the combat actually offers.

Really? How exactly is one then supposed to make up his mind about the game? Play it to the max level before saying whether it's good or not? If anything, those early levels are meant to entice you to actually play the game, not be a chore to drudge through.

Actually yes.

You can often see if you really don´t like a game fast but to truly say if a MMO is good or not you so need to play it to max level. Heck, even that might not be enough.

Don´t you remember the reviews of AoC made by people who only seen Tortage? Or how many people loved WAR until they played it for 6 weeks and then suddenly tired of it to never play it again?

But if you are bored after playing 20 levels the game probably isn´t for you anyways. That it isn´t for you does not mean it isn´t good but sometimes a game just don´t have the right "feel".

Yeah, a dragon like that is so stupid he would run after you half the world...

Sorry, but that makes no sense and Wow stopped that pretty fast if I remember correctly. While there surely will be "oops" moment from Arenanet as well as Blizzard this is not one of them. I frankly don´t see Blizzard repeat that misstake again either.

Trains are a thing of the past and I am not sad of that, it was a silly mechanic that the devs of early MMOs never gave much work. Sure, it had it´s fun moments but it is not something I want to repeat.

And ANETis trying to make the mobs smarter, not dumber.

Originally posted by Reizla

Loke, keep in mind that Frogster is still testing their infrastructure and are most likely still messing with the server settings. I too had some weird lagspikes at times where the game fully stalled and FPS dropped to 4 or so for a few seconds. My guess is that Frogster is fine-tuning their servers, but the lag isn't as bad as it was during the stress test earlier this week.

Also worth to note that on my system (AMD X3 ~2.7Ghz 8Gb 800Mhz EVGA GTX460 SC) runs rather smooth in maxed settings. I have a stable 30-45 FPS and in Velika it drops to around 20. Only thing that bothers me is that TERA (like Lineage II) does some bad HDD loading for textures. I guess buying a SSD is no luxery...

Yeah, I have considered moving it from my regular drive to my SSDs but it is pretty large and I need to move around some stuff for that so i havn´t bothered with it yet.

Originally posted by Pivotelite

*snip*

Also feel the need to mention, the NA client will not have highres textures...the file is 17GB while the EU one was 23.7GB, the highres textures for NA will be brought back in the second closed BETA. Just force AAx8 and AFx16 in your graphics cards controls to make things a little better. :[

That is a little odd, one would think it would have been easier to make the same client for both...

It do look great in highrez BTW :)

Originally posted by Gabby-air

I5-2500k, Gtx 560, 8gb ram...lower specs than you but was getting 80fps which seems to be the cap in starter town and right when you land in the main town I dropped to about 30 fps. Walking around in the town I'm usually at about 50 fps. 

So yeh it is lower performance but nothing like the lag spikes you are talking about, performance has been amazing on my end running everything on high. I did hear another person complaining about performance on a 470, so maybe the problem is with the 400 line? but the general concensus seems to be people being amazed they can run it so well. 

Lol, I think the problem is found. Both EU servers are "Very crowded" right now and that is most likely the problem.

Since I had no such issue yesterday and it really didn´t start until I left the start area I think it is just too many people in town right now. And the reason I think that is because my FPS is excellent, it is just the spikes every 30 seconds or so in town.

Maybe they need to have fewer people on the actual game servers after launch, but I guess that is what they are testing right now. :)

I will log on in a few hours and see if it gets better.

Originally posted by spaceport

ArcheAge will grow instead of decline.

Of course, for some people, AA will simply be too much for them.

We have an entire generation of WOW players who never played an MMO in their lifes,  i expect lots of QQ of single player rpg players, but thats ok, it means the game is a true MMORPG.

I dunno, it sounds good but games have sounded good in the past but been bad once we gotten them, and that goes double for Korean games...

I will get hyped for it once I tried a little, before that I will keep an eye out for news but nothing more.

So many people have said that that or this game is a true old school great MMO and so far once the games have gotten released they have at best been so so.

Originally posted by RedKatana

I played on friday long hours and didn't see any lag at all.

Outside the starting area? Because there it was fine, it was when I got on the pegasus the game became unplayable.

`When I played the island of dawn I had some lag spikes, one every 10 minutes or so but as soon as I got off it the game became totally unplayble... A huge spike every 20-30 seconds and it feels like I am trying to run the game on a old Pentium 3 or something.

And no, it ain´t my computer. 8 gigs of ram, 6x 3.2 ghz and a 480 gtx should be enough to run this game... And as I said, I had little problems until I got off the island.

Besides the lag I don´t think I even seen a bug (even though I never found that pig eating tree, not sure if he just got killed as soon as he showed up or if he didn´t spawn at all) but lag spikes are among the worst thing a game can have. 

Is it just me, (it could be my internet line) or do you guys have the same problem?

yeah, I guess the game is cute... I just wish they besides the sexy armors at least put in a few sensible ones as well.

I don´t mind revealing armors but they should always be an option, not a must.

Originally posted by MacroHard

$0.00

pay to win is for chumps.

Next time read the OP before you post.