Bump, because I'm looking for a nice stealth class too.

Zorndorf, what part of the game are you in? What characters do you have?

The true reason I quit is because:

• Level 80 Human Rogue
• Level 80 Mage
• Level 80 Shaman
• Level 80 UD Rogue
• Level 74 UD Rogue
• Level 72 Warrior
• Level 65 Priest
• Level 77 Warlock
• Level 80 Death Knight
• Level 80 Druid
• Level 60 Hunter

Progression:

• Naxx 10-25 full clear
• Ulduar 10-25 full clear
• That one raid with a bunch of dragons and a huge dragon in the middle (10-15 full clear)
• PVP rank 12 pre Cross Realm BG's.
• 375 in all professions amongst my characters.
• Heroic All Dungeons full clear
• Normal Dungeons Full Clear (Including 1-60 dungeons)

The game is just boring, I've played it into the ground and then rolled around in it's remains, then ate those remains and digested them for another year.

PVP isn't even fun anymore and is based more on who has the better gear rather than who plays the class better. PVE is stale and repetitive [Stand here when x happens, or just keep pressing same rotation of buttons until it dies].


The game is WONDERFUL The first time through.  The second time through it's still fun.  But I've been playing since 5 months after it was released (Vanilla WoW). And it's really just BORING now.

It got boring when resilience was added, people stacked it and my ability to beat geared players with an undergeared character was gone. 

Then I went to endgame PVE.  I went to Ulduar and completely destroyed it with my guild, and decided it was no longer fun to obtain gear, so that I could get more gear, so that I could get more gear so that when I have the best gear. I can either get owned in PVP because my PVE gear has no resilience, or I can WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT PATCH SO THAT I CAN GET MORE GEAR SO THAT I CAN WAIT TO GET MORE GEAR.

  And they keep nerfing the Rogue, my favorite class, to the point where I re-rolled and got multiple level 80's besides my rogue.

The rogue is now extremely gear dependent it's not even fun, and they keep nerfing and nerfing, it ends up being such a boring process to get the gear to make him playable that In the end, the fun that you would have with the gear, isn't worth it.

I'm looking for an MMORPG (P2P or F2P) that has a good/fun to play Assassin/Rogue/Thief.

Games I've played and aren't interested in:

• Grand Chase
• World of Warcraft
• Cabal Online
• Dragonica
• Lost Saga
• Runescape
• Maple Story
• Warhammer Online Age of Reckoning
• Rakion
• 12sky (and 2)
• Risk Your Life
• Dungeon Fighter Online
• Heroes of Newerth

I prefer PVP, but it's not required, as long as the PVE is FUN.

Grinding, while it isn't preferred, is OK.

..I think that's about it.   I've been looking all over the place but can't find a decent game anymore.

Good luck on recording something like that without crashing your game, you'd need one HELL of a machine.

Originally posted by aikage

 

 

What are you going to do when the next 2 or 3 games are exactly the same.. just much more crappily made.. and with more bugs and less content?

I'm seriously just going to do things more productive, or play games that give me more satisfaction.



I'm a PVP'er primarily, PVE was just for the lore, I love a good story.

WAR was a disappointment, WoW was fun until WoTLK, where most classes got an I.W.I.N. Button (You'll get it if you're an addict like I was).

I'm seriously just sick of the game in general, the only reason I initially started playing was for the lore.  

I can just watch the Arthas fight from some random guild and still be satisfied. 

Seriously.

Quest to level up, hit the cap.

Grind dungeons to get rep/gear.

Farm (Grind) materials to get better gear.

Then get better gear, so that you can get better gear, so that you can get better gear, so that you can get better gear, so that you can get better gear.

Or do some of the horribly balanced PVP.


I quit when My guild had Ulduar on farm status 25 man.

So boring, seriously... 80 shaman, 80 rogue, 74 rogue, 73 rogue, 70 mage, bunch of mid 50's of every other class.



I'll admit this game was AMAZING the first time through, still fun the 2nd time through.  But by the 3rd level 70 I was so fucking done, especially with nerfs.

Originally posted by Ramonski7

 

Difficulty needs to come from figuring out how to overcome your human opponents with the tools you have available, not trying to figure out what the tools are.

This is the point.

I want the challenge of outwitting or outplaying my enemy.

I don't want the challenge of who did the boring part the longest, got the better gear, or has more people.

I want to level up, yes.  But I also want to have a chance against EVERY class.

I want a balanced game where a 1v1 situation is up to player skill, not gear.

I want a game where if I play right, I can beat 2 or 3 v 1, but not by a landslide, if at all, but it's POSSIBLE.

The most fun I've ever had was winning a 4 v 1(me)  In WoW's arena as a rogue against a druid/warrior/mage, who outgeared me.

I've long since quit WoW, I desire fun PVP, I hate where WoW went with their PVP, I was excited and pre-odered WAR, only to be HUGELY disappointed by how much of a nukefest it was and my melee was useless, especially in keeps.

Maybe I'm just insatiable...but the point is exactly what you said.

"Difficulty needs to come from figuring out how to overcome your human opponents with the tools you have available, not trying to figure out what the tools are."

This is usually the problem of mass PVP, the melee becomes nearly useless and it's just a nukefest (in many games with mass PVP, I found this to be true, I really couldn't tell you with Aion, I haven't even seen the Abyss).

This was the reason I quit WAR....I want to play my melee class in massive battles and still be useful.

(I have little to no experience on Aion, so don't take this as my opinion towards it)

All "ZOMG WoW COPIED X" or "X is a WoW CLONE"  or  "STOLE" used in any way shape or form ASIDE.

I'm enjoying WoW now and the lore is really interesting. 

I played WAR for 2 months and Felt it was too choppy of a game I might go back to it if they refine it but It's just not fun for me right now.


I see alot of tabletop QQIng. What about D&D? 


Anyway, I'm waiting for a debate to occur and not an argument.

Crazy, just stick with this one, it's very promising

I'm going to buy this game whether it comes out tomorrow and gets patched up to a very polished version, or whether it comes out 3 years from now, the point is, I WANT TO PLAY

Beta Access plz

The point is  WOW ISN'T UO

You want to completely change the game mechanics around...

You want to remove levels and bring back the old "skill" system (I'm a 3000 skill lvl magician by using bots!!!)

You want to remove alot of gear, remove crafts, and give everyone the same gear.

You don't want an MMO, you wan't an FPS or an action game...

nuff' said (sorry for being harsh)


-Ex wow player of 3 70's (Mage, Rogue, Rogue) quit due to horrible PVP

I just got into the Exteel beta, having a ball there...if you haven't already you should check that out..thx for all suggestion's I'm trying them out on the side! ^^

Cool, i'll try out the trial, in the meantime all other suggestions are still welcome ^^

I've always been a fan of PVP since my days of UO..

So basically what I'm looking for is an MMO where I can jump in...level at a fair rate, and PVP even at a low level if i wanted...

I want to play a game for the PVP, tho i don't mind lvling up through PvE etc...

At this point i prefer Open Beta, or Free, can't afford anything else right now..

PVP is a biggie, trying to emphasize this...But i've played World Of Warcraft for a while now...2 70 rogues and a 70 mage...the PVP just isn't fun....and I quit...I played Guild Wars and that was fun while i played it...but it had it's drawbacks...

Anyway...I've been looking for a very long time, and i finally decided to make an account on MMORPG.com and see what this community has to offer :)