Five bucks says the lead in pict with the guys hand over the woman’s mouth will be pulled within two hours.

Honestly the biggest blunder of all is game developers inviting fly by night journalist that write for second rate fan sites to press conferences. They are more than likely going to purposely misquote you to gain street cred and a reputation for edginess. I understand that developers want to connect with the community…but the community by and large idea of fun is burning a developer who isn’t Blizzard to the ground.

The second biggest blunder is hyping or even mentioning you are developing a game too soon. A smart developer would not even announce a game until the game is feature complete and in closed testing by a group of professional quality specialist, that specialize in online games.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

 

Since Smedley is still trying to run the show, can you blame them?  You have to consider WHO their boss is to start with and look at the mirad of poor and questionable decisions he has made.  The answer just screams at you.

More rats leaving a sinking ship.

I do feel bad for the SOE staff though having to put up with his clueless antics.

That ship has been sinking according to some since 1999. The folks I know who work at SOE like Smed very much as a Boss. I think that really the only peopel who dislikes Smed are those still crying about their broken wookiee after all these years. Some folsk call em vets most rational people just call em nutjobs.

Originally posted by TheMaelstrom

I admit I'm a geek, but I'm a mongrel before I'm a geek.

Give me full coverage of Olivia Munn in that Leia costume (or any tiny wardrobe for that matter) and I'm a happy guy.

Umm yeah.. I always knew she was attractive...but WoWza The words stunningly beautiful comes to mind.  A breath of freash air after being exposed to G4's Chesty Manface for all those years.

Originally posted by Nedax

Why can't people just respect each others opinions and move on? There doesn't need to be a flame war everytime someone says they dislike the game. If they dislike it and don't play it, how does this affect anyone that is going to play it, other than having one less player to play with / fight against? We get it, you love Aion and want to see it succeed. So go out and advertise the game to different media sources instead of trying to persuade someone who has already made their decision?

Simple, many times the dislike is motivated by fear of losing ones guild members from another MMO, or it's a case of  Guerilla marketing from the competition.  We have seen MMO suffer smear campaigns before, with forum members monitoring forums 24/7on this site to ridicule contradict or otherwise shoot down any positive remarks or press.

I for one am having a blast in Aion, it is going to be really tough for me to pick between Aion and Champions online as I only have time for one MMO. Aion is fun, and it's a breath of fresh air but it isn't for everyone...that doesn’t make it a failboat.

Originally posted by CristianCeo

  Prolly like you i played most of the mmos on the market, including betas, alphas etc.

 But Vanguard manages to top them all in one way or the other. I definitely got caught by it. Funny thing is that in this period AOC, WAR and LOTRO sent me mails to reativate my account giving me some free days.(you know what i mean). And from those mmos i chose Vanguard.

     I hate it that Sony sits on their a** and don't realize what they got here. I mean they could tidy it up a bit and relaunch it world wide because the game is def no the game that was launched back in 07.

    If you didn't try it i recommend u go here http://vanguard.station.sony.com/ and try the trial!

     The game is free u only pay the subscription wich is 15$

Yeah SOE is sitting on a gold mine...with Free Realms and the upcoming DCUO.

Vanguard sucks the sweat off dogs balls. The concept is dead The EQ Raid model is dead, Archaic Guild structures are dead, folks don't have time for complex social networks in their real lives (those of us who actually have real lives) much less in our virtual ones. Four hours to Raid? WTF?? If I don't have Four hours to do something meaningful I certainly don't have it to spend with a group of people I can hardly stand but need to get my phat lewtz.

MMO's have evolved, smaller groups (Five or less..think old school D&D group) shorter Epic encounter times (an hour to an hour and a half tops) easy in easy out.. Entertain me I have a job already mother fucker. The developers who don’t get this are doomed for failure, the ones that see the writing on the wall may be able to catch enough scraps from Blizzard to survive.
 

Originally posted by BadgerSmaker

Originally posted by Thunderous

There is turnover in WoW.  Players quit, new ones begin.  In Star Wars Galaxies players quit and very few take their place.  The game offers no staying power to retain subscriptions.  SOE and LucasArts put almost no resources or effort into this game and it shows.  There CAN'T be more than 5,000 to 8,000 active players.

 

I'm afriad that no matter how much you want this to be true due to your obvious hatred of all thing SoE, more and more new and returning players are filling out the ranks of SWG players every day.

I get the chance to speak to many of them in game and there is a recurring trend of SWG seeing an influx of WoW burnouts looking for a more engaging game world to play in, and SWG delivers that.

There is also plenty of sandbox gameplay in SWG, a number of my friends have put together awesome creations via the story teller system and run fun events.

Yep one of my very good friends works for SOE...she told me that SWG is every bit as profitable as their other games more so in some cases and all of their games are currently turning a profit....I undertsntd that the Vets will howl and deny this, she has no reason to lie. SOE is laughing at the "Vets" all the way to the bank.  The only thing these screwballs have managed to do is get a  negitive reputation in the MMO community, so much so that Bioware dosen't  wnat them on thei forums and will perma ban them the moment they start their shit. One mabye they will get the therapy or closure the need.

Wow Dana...of all the years I have been coming to this site this is the first time I have ever seen a venom laced rant from you. Guy I have been part of Role-playing guilds since UO, and those who use Elizabethan English (even in DAoC) are usually universally laughed at.  ERP guilds are mostly often viewed with disdain by the normal folks who RP.  We like gear, we like fun and we bitch about nerfs just like everyone else...we just don't want to name our Character madeyourmommoan, or Azzzwhippa, nor do we want to hang out with those who do.

I think that MMO developers are slowly learning that entering a instance with 24 other people you barley know and can hardly stand to be around is the furthest thing from feeling heroic.  Smaller more tight knit groups akin to the days of Pen and Paper D&D are more likely to give that heroic feeling than having some 14 year old sociopath shout orders at you over vent. I hear it all the time from groups in WoW Man uthgarde pinnacle was a blast......but Ulduar was stab your eyes out stupid not because of the content it was dealing with all the attitudes. And Blizzard developers are hearing this too, last Blizzcon Metzen said 85% of the players were doing less than 55% of the content.

They are doing less because every member you add to the group the asshat chance increases by 20%. This is why I doubt very highly that we will see more 25 man Raids in the next WoW expansion, it will be five and ten man with heroic versions of each. SOE is even saying this is too much, DCUO will have Heroic missions for Two to Five players that scales depending on group size.  The message that we are seeing is the EQ raid structure and the archaic Guild system is dead, peopel don't have time for complex scocial networks in their real lives much less their virtual ones unless they have no life at all.

It will be interesting to revisit this in two years.

Originally posted by Kainis

PB isn't a Mythic employee. He is an EA employee. They are using him more as a talking head for their other mmo titles.

He ws orignially a GW employee, he worked as a liason between GW and their elctronic partners (THQ, Mythic etc)..and from what I have been told is again...

Good friend of mine who works for GW in Nottinghamshire told me earlier that Paul B has been recalled to the UK permanently, does this mean that EA is getting ready to Earth and Beyond WAR?

Anyone want to bet that we will be seeing PVE servers by next spring?

I see the shills are out in force today.

Dude unless she looks like Jeri Ryan and screws like a 1200 dollar a night hooker dump her.....there are plenty of gamer chicks out there that won't make you choose.

F2p games are doing better for one simple reason...they are making better quality f2p games than most of the subscription based shit that is offered these days. Take a look at Perfect World..it is insanely fun, looks good on even a e-machine and has an awesome community that is very remincent of FFXI community. I buy a 10.00 card every couple of months and I am swiming in gear and loot....why should I spend 15 a month for broken ugly non fun crap. or even a fun game that openly harbors a cesspool community? Sorry no one but no one gets my money these days unles they work their asses off for it and PW does that.....and  more and more gamers are starting to feel the way I do, that is why F2p games are on the rise.

Originally posted by Rikimaru_X

Don't even talk about this game's PVP aspect out of a beta. You HAVE NOT, experieced it. Duels is fun, but that's more of sparing compared to real PVP. No abyss, no rifts, no Elyos vs Asmodians, nothing. Don't even judge flying in this game out of a beta. There is full flying everywhere in Abyss and many areas to fly in other maps. This isn't Ace Combat though. I read some (very little) neg rep on this "BETA" and some of you are just spinning in circles, trying to find a valid way to judge a game that is in testing and then the possible end result is you mentioning going back to a game thats been out for months/years.

Actually it isn't beta..it's a preview event.  Oh and I have a level 30 Templar in the Chinese version....Am I not allowed to talk about PVP, Rifts the Abyss or flying? Because yes I have experienced all of it.

I get your point guy this is a counter to Jotulls rant about Aion failing..., which was idiotic, and pre mature. But he was right in the fact that NCsoft decided to go another way as far as PVP is concerned...but it came from the overwhelming feedback of Korean and Chinese players. So there is no forced PVP, and they made PVE items comparable to Abyss gear in Aion anyone with an IQ above 84 will tell you that is actually a good thing. They can scream “wowify” all they want it still spells more players at the end of the day

Folks need to face the facts that PVP centric games will never attract a large audience and you can't have that when you spend millions developing an AAA title. If you want Hardcore PVP Halo is ----------------------------->

Reading through this thread I have to ask myself are hardcore PVP players their own worst enemy? I mean this guy shows up with four of his buddies on the beta boards starts calling Aion "his game"  and then starts making demands on Liv and Brian until they ban him.  All he has accomplished is looking like a idiot and convincing  developers that his is the wrong demographic to cater too.

Originally posted by Laughing-man

 

The game isn't going to fail, it hasn't failed.

Its still currently the 2nd most played MMO in exsistance.  I think that you are extremely premature and perhaps in some way personally offended in your campaign against this game.

What did Aion do to you?  Did it kick your dog?

Seriously you sound waaaay too mad about a game that you can't possibly have that much invested in.

No if it is the same Jotull I'm thinking about; him and a couple others spent a good bit of time on the Aion beta boards telling everyone Aion was forced PVP that the producers were lying to us to get us to buy and talking about "how sweet it would be to gank all the WoW noobs before they QQ quit" Well Liv banned their sorry asses and announced that there would be no Forced PVP in Aion, Brian popped on a bit later and confirmed it.....and since then he has been going around preaching how NCsoft betrayed the PVPer.

In short this tard is nuts.

Originally posted by jotull

 

It Had 3.5 million before folks found out that NCsoft did a bait and switch. They  took the PVP game cut it's throat and left it in a alley...They have nerfed it so bad that it is damn near impossible to Rift gank now. real gamers (notice I said real gamers not Carebears) will not stand for this and they will vote with their wallets.

Dude....the vast majority of people do not want forced PVP I mean who wants to be collecting mats for crafting only to be waylaid by six sociopaths ten levels higher than you? They did not take away you PVP you still have the Abyss...NCsoft did a smart thing when they decide no forced PVP, and they did not bait and switch you Brian Knox gave folks plenty of heads up about it.

Well lets see..that is one who votes fail and how many telling you how dumb you are?

God PVPers talk about how big wussies PVE players are but I swear I have never heard a group cry more than they do.

Carebear carebears Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Grow a pair man its just a game.

You know guy....I can spend a week telling you how retarded you post is. NCsoft is designing a game that will appeal to the broadest group possible, and that group doesn’t want Gank on sight PVP. They had to tone PVP down or they would not have had a marketable product, I think folks like you are just pissed because you were spamming all the major forums that Aion was going to be Forced PVP and NCsoft made you look like idiots.
 
Honestly who cares if a couple sociopaths cancel their Pre-Orders?....Aion is still at number 1 at Gaemstop/EB, and at number 3 on Amazon.

Aion didn't fail it is in fact a massive success.