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Originally posted by Altos
AFK Entertainers. Nuff said. :P
SWG is probably the ONLY game you can play without actually playing.
I happen to know of one troublemaker in SWG who keeps the client running all day long just so she can read chat logs and stir up trouble, but doesn't really even play. And yes - she uses Xfire.
Without giving out names, her current stats for the past 7 days is at 79 hours.

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When they released Trials of Obiwan on November 1st then released the NGE 2 weeks later, they were forced to offer refunds to those who purchased ToOW and didn't want to play the NGE because there were adequet lawsuits available against SOE. And many did pick up the refund and promptly quit.

I don't remember when my set was made, but it's energy layered tantal armor, probably the only one on my server that I can find right now. Doesn't matter now anyways, my account expired today.

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Originally posted by Suvroc

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Originally posted by Vincenz

I'd bet real money that the people here complaining about the CU and NGE years after it happened were the same people who spammed the SOE forum with "OMG THIS GAME SUXXORS" about every bug, threatened to quit every unexpected downtime, and declared the game was doomed with every change prior to the CU or NGE.

complainers will always be complainers.

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Nope.
I was too busy keeping an eye on the trade forums, and watching the drama unfold on the Lowca forums. The galaxy forums were an extension to the game itself which allowed me to keep my ear to the ground, so to speak, while I was at work.
Simply put, the forums were fun. : )

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I was always in the middle of the CKE/FEDS/Chosen vs Omen/DJK/(whatever other guild built to fight FEDS), that shit just doesn't happen anymore.

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Originally posted by Suvroc

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Originally posted by Mathos

Sheep spend a lot of time out side too...
But dam dont the $oe fanboi's spend a lot of time here...
They dont spend a lot of time in $oe's forum to see how things really are..
It would tank an act of congress to get this game to improve..
New bugs old bugs adding old bugs back into the game...
Think the fanboi's need to get over it more and wake up...
For a game thats so good they sure spend a lot of time here..

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You know, I do look at the official forums occasionally. Perhaps it's time to officially change the name of SW:Galaxies to SW:Gameplay May Change ; )

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There hasn't been another MMO game good enough to replace the old SWG for me, City of Heroes was as close as it could get. Right now I'm not really playing anything, just occasionally Madden 2008.

I haven't gotten a response from a CSR yet after 4 weeks, I have 4x tantal armor arm pieces all with sockets yet my AA won't apply to it and wrote a ticket asking the CSR to fix it. There is one player I know that is close friends to a CSR and I always see that CSR standing in the Dath sci outpost afk and the player even had him spawn rancors in the outpost and many players were against that because of the rancor collection thing- I'm even suspicious of the CSR and the player's relationship, he probably gets favors done.

I beta tested TR, to me it seems too shallow of a game for an MMO but I'm sure Richard Garriot will improve that sooner or later, and the interation is alot like WoW's but the FPS style is what people compare with the NGE. IMO if you want to compare that to the NGE, then i would say TR's way of doing is about 50x better than NGE's, no ugly blue/green target box and a much better over-the-shoulder zoom.

I may buy this game someday but not now, and I know it won't keep me any longer than 2-3 months since I'd get tired of it pretty fast.

City of Heroes/Villains was my best replacement after the NGE but I'm kind of burnt out on it right now.

I wouldn't even compare COH to what happened to SWG, in COH they didn't really change anything other than add the Rikti War Zone and auction house with matching enhancement sets which is addicting. I remember back in issue 2 or 3 they went through huge changes on each class because that's when they introduced arena and pvp for the first time and the changes were neccesary otherwise fighting a regen scrapper would have been pointless, but they didn't change the GUI or combat interaction or add dungeons or such that SOE has to SWG.

Super Mario Galaxies > Star Wars Galaxies. :)

I read the SWG forums often but I don't post there. I've noticed now that even new players (registered 2005 or later) are now starting to feel what the vets has been feeling, and they're speaking out in many posts that they don't want anymore changes, they're getting really tired of the devs revamping something over and over again.

I don't recommend it to anybody anymore, it's just a very crummy mess of a game now.

This just makes me chuckle.

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Originally posted by ekic

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Originally posted by Darth_Pete

There is a nice community yeah... atleast on EU-Chimaera
I tried going back to SWG few months ago and when I tried asking for some advice in Mos Eisley cantina all I got was just random tells with "lol noob" , "type /qui conjin to open up badges or some other crap" oh.. yes and few duel requests

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There are ass-hats in every game. Don't let a few deter you from meeting some quality peeps. I have met so many wonderful people from all over the world.
I would find it hard to believe that the SWG population would be more immature than WoW's.....

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I headed over to some camped locations for collections and had a couple groups hit my targets to less than half health and let me finish the rest so I couldn't loot them, I even ran into credit farmers camping at the NS labor camp! The community in the NGE is almost as bad as WoW's, except there's no /trade city chat like you see in WoW (which is what i call /drama chat).

I just read a post by Blixtev that the block defense is double what they intended it to be- that just made me LMAO irl, there's alot of block stackers among Jedi and they're very hard to take down. Poor block stackers that spent on their suit, I have said it before, the devs changes things constanlty constantly constantly, no other game I know of changes like this.

Add another "OOPS" to that 7.1 list. :)

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Originally posted by oronisi

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Originally posted by outlaw101

Nobody listens to you because it has gotten boring.

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Oh, don't forget that whining on a non-company (SOE or LA) owned forums doesn't exactly get anyone's attention. Who is supposed to make a change if the only people reading this forum are the same ones posting, not paying for SWG or doing any business with SOE at all.
Really, do you think the lead game designer of SWG is here on these forums now reading everyone's great ideas? Oh, and most of the arguements for a rollback are 'give me my pre-cu I want it now mommy'....not some great pursuasive document with examples, evidence, and purpose.

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No, BM is not like CH, you still cannot tame and it takes so much time and understanding to make a good pet or even mutate one (devs changed that).

Attachments are probably the best addition so far that I've seen, crafters are still struggling in the economy without any decay involved unless they make money from their combat character. Combat and lack of animations and limited skills/weapon choices within 9 professions gets annoying sometimes, whatever happened to the old squadleader/commando hybrid (Cody?) or fencer/doctor?

Hybrids and taking multiple roles on a single character was alot of fun, tanking and healing at the same time (much like WoW's paladin). I also don't like the manual aiming and the lock target takes a couple extra buttons to push (select intended target, activate auto attack then select special) rather than the old select target and push a special to start combat, when the NGE first came out the manual aim was sooooooo buggy, everytime you attacked another player you saw "You cannot trade while in combat" across the screen it was hilarious and I still get it sometimes.

Additional contents is a good thing, it was needed since the ToOW expansion although the collecitons is the classic carrot on stick attempt, but the heroics are the best part.

My conclusion is no, not even close to what it used to be, I know they are TRYING but it's the NGE and the NGE isn't even close to what pre-CU and CU were like and yes it's much too late.

Probably the vet reactivation, that's what I'm on.

I remember when SWG first launched, I think BH and TKA and pistoleer were the only classes that worked well. And every single profession had animations of their own, now in the NGE you see poke poke poke stab jab poke poke... fencer and pikeman had the finest ones, but at least entertainer's TKA has random animations, I still like to see my ent do UA3.

I remember when the CU launched, alot of things were broken again and Jedi's FR3 was about 5x faster than a swoop or AV-21 and Jedi didn't get their LS animations back until late August (when BH got their uber loot content patch) and player bounties were disabled. Lastly publish 24 was probably the best patch in a long time and only saw 3 weeks of life before the NGE and the day the servers went online with NGE, everything was broken AGAIN.

I remember when the NGE launched, people were making fun of the game and were speculating that SOE were designing SWG for gaming consoles (X360?) so 10 year olds can play it, right from the start there were negativity non-stop. The forum mods got out of control, people got banned left and right, profession corespondants weren't too happy (but eventually got blue glowie), and people were deleting their long lived characters before hitting cancel (there's videos of it).

The time between major publishes were fairly fast and productive, chapter 7 took about 6 months and built up hype. The collections thing is a time sink and is already boring, the heroics is nice though but yet another copy of dungeons from WoW.

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Originally posted by Obee
You can't mention SWG on most forums or in most MMOs, without having people jumping at the chance to let everyone else know how bad the game is. The game has a well deserved reputation as an unfun mess. They think they can change that perception if they just yell loud enough or long enough.

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The BM thing got a few people seeing red, the BM thing also really isn't much like CH and is a bit too complicated to deal with and can gimp your expertise template. Most BM speced players I know are medic, only the best prof to go with.

Also I used to be a very avid PvPer, now I'm so turned off from it, seeing someone with about 100 buffs on them and the glancing blow changes negates the agility suit I had. At least before the CU the only buffs you needed were doctor ones and that was it, sometimes mind buffs from entertainer, but now there's tons of buffs including the officer ones that gains a big advantage over the non ranked PvPers, I faced someone that had 100% crits on me and so many strike throughs and my block value is 400+ damage which didn't seem to be enough. Ah well I'm sticking to the damn collections thing til my month is up.

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Originally posted by SioBabble

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Originally posted by tman5

Before you guys get too worked up, the community manager posted that the problem is a display issue, not a bug with actual creature stats. The baby critters are fine. Nobody's work is being wiped out.
I posted a link earlier, but my browser hosed and left a blank post. Too lazy to go find it again.
But it is silly, the Devs posting "hints" then panicking when the players outsmart them. They should know - the players will always outsmart them.

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"Display Issues" are still evidence of developer incompetence.

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Originally posted by fozzie22
Something had to be done with it becuase it was a buggy mess of a game wether the NGE was right or not something needed to be done

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