Originally posted by donaldduck

I've never understood why people get so mad at the balance of classes in an MMO.

Classes don't NEED to be balanced. A mage should get killed if a warrior with a huge axe manages to hack at him a couple of times - that mage should keep out of the way or face the consequences- same goes with a healer.

Why can't some classes be harder to play than others? why can't some classes be easier to kill than others?

As long as MMO devs try to balance classes they'll just never win, as one class will always be complaining about being underpowered in relation to another.

So why not simply put up a disclaimer on the character creation screen that 'xxxx class is harder to play well' or 'xxxx class is recommended for advanced players'

You could then give out bonuses in other ways to stop everyone choosing the easiest class - more XP/money whatever.

There's some people that, if they don't know, you just can't tell 'em.

Not only does he not understand game balance, he doesn't understand economics.

Originally posted by Z3R01

Originally posted by Zorndorf

 

Perfect 10/10 for Wordl of Warcraft.

When did you play Wow? back in the sixites  ? :))))

You know there IS a reason to have it all (critic acclaim, professional website reviews and the public).

Only thing is open the eyes.

 

 

Z! not everyone wants to play WoW.

WoW's been out for five years? maybe the guy already played it to death?

Why troll the guy and tell him to open his eyes?

People want so many different things out of a MMO not even WoW could full fill all of that.

It's almost like people need to play more then one MMO to get everything they want, so give the guy a break and stop pushing WoW at him like some Blizzard Sales rep trying to make a commision.

Yeah, what you said.  WoW is so generic it now comes in a plain white box with black lettering.  (Just about all of you are too young to remember generic branding from the mid-80's.  You haven't lived until you've bought a can of "Green Beans" produced by "Factory 52.")

Originally posted by Dibdabs

Originally posted by Elikal

 Some actually prefer to solo. Tho it sorta beats me why they come to a MMO in the first place, but so what.

Oh god, not this again!  Look, MMOs have flourishing auction houses/bazaars, Holiday events, players/friends who craft things for you to specification, or gather resources you need or enchant things you need, a chat system to communicate with friends, GMs to help with issues and problems, a mail system to send stuff to friends/alts and vice versa - single-player games do not have all these features.  Is that explicit enough for you?

For hopefully the last time - "Massively Multiplayer Online" does not mean "Players have to group".  Accept it and stop plaintively wailing about it.  No wonder I don't PUG any more!

I second that.  Apparently some people think that when they go to the mall they're shopping "with" 2,000 other people, instead of shopping "at the same time as" 2,000 other people.

There are other reasons, too, and one of them is even more basic than what you point out: if I want to play a modern computer game in which I'm a superhero, right now I have to play CoH.  There's no other venue, online or otherwise. available.  If I want to play in a large persistent world based on D&D or LoTR, I have to play DDO or LoTRO.

PUGs are evil, pure evil.  Would you grab the first five people who will say "yes" to have them work on your car?  Repair your home?  Cater your next party?  I don't think so.  In the words of Lex Luthor (The Kingdom, DC Comics): "I don't like working in groups.  Everybody has an opinion."  You'll hear the same opinion from Batman.

It takes a certain quality and strength of character to be able to solo.  Some people just don't have it.

 I never take seriously the opinion of someone whose name is "<stolen part from one genre or property><stolen part from another genre or property>."   Likewise other pastiches like "Captain Bart Sparrow."

Originally posted by colonnelli71

My dumb a$$ has been patiently waiting for 2 weeks to buy this game like so many others. Its bad enough they have this limited sales. Its bad enough these sales are during the normal working time for most people, thus only jobless people or kids home from school can buy it. Its bad enough they have NO SALES during the weekend when its more fair for everyone to have a chance to get a copy. Now im off Friday, Saturday and Sunday...they are not having more copies this Friday and of course the whole weekend?!? You know what Adventuretine...im finally reading the writing on the wall and listening to my gut and avoiding your company like the black plague. Like the title says, suck it. I hope your game company closes up and your all jobless.

Just think--you can spend all your newly-found free time practicing your written literacy skills!

As I understand HTTP protocol (and I work with it every day), the slash makes no difference.  I tested with the trailing slash nonetheless and I still can't get there.

From here it looks (with traceroute, that is) like things go into the weeds in Phoenix at PureGig.net.

If everyone else can get to it, I'm good with that. 

Good.  It's probably some upstream switch issue at Level 3 in Atlanta or something equally silly.

There's still hope that the game will hit the street sometime this decade, then.

Well, at least from here, I can't reach http://www.stargateworlds.com.  It's been 118 days since the devs have been paid out there, according to the "Days Since..." page. Can anyone reach it? Has anyone heard anything?

Not meaning to jump to conclusions or anything, but it has been looking like the thing was going under.

Of course, for all I know they're doing site maintenance.

Originally posted by spades07

a good reason for kids to have their own servers, and over 18s theirs.

I can think of a lot of other reasons, too, and not just for WoW.

Wendsday?  What the hell is Wendsday?

Does anyone copy edit anymore?

Originally posted by vvistovv

of course i'd want to be captain.

"number 1, i order you to take a number 2"   

If the exec isn't human, you might have to order them to take a #3.

1) This is why I don't play EVE.  I already have a low opinion of the human species, and this isn't doing anything to improve it.

2) Do you people understand the definition of "epic," or are you using it because someone else used it?

3) I hope everyone involved is happy with the way things turned out, because EVE is supposed to be a GAME--or it was at one time.  It's now graduated to the status of sociological experiment, and the early results aren't promising.

Originally posted by Fuatia

i think only idiots play P2P, Plenty of F2P that have way better graphic and animation.  I played alot of P2P b4 but now only play F2P .  Until someone revolutionary P2P comes out ill stick to the Free.  I get just as much and sometime more excitement out of Free online games. :)

I've tried many F2P games, and found them lacking.  I'll stipulate to being pickier than the next guy, so that probably disqualifies a lot of games that might otherwise be objectively interesting or worthwhile.  Still, there's something about F2P that bothers me.  Ever heard of a "honey trap?"

A honey trap captures insects by offering them something sweet for no investment (or no perceived danger).  They become trapped in the honey, and *boom*.  Likewise, a F2P game lures you in because it's "free."

It can't be free.  Bandwidth costs money, servers cost money, and presumably, the people who wrote and now maintain the game like to eat and have shelter.  The game has to have revenue.  So, either you see a lot of ad-driven content (an unreliable revenue stream), or there's another, sneaker revenue stream lurking somewhere.  Hmm.  What could that be?  Could it be--item malls?

F2P costs more than P2P when you factor in item malls. If you don't pay out for the item malls, then you limit your participation in the game, and presumably, that isn't something you like.  If true advancement in the game relies on purchasing the Crystal Loincloth of Smargafargabargadar, then eventually you'll pay.  And you'll pay real money, not some faux currency--because you either take a direct hit to the wallet, or you bought interior currency with real currency.

I often wonder whether or not dedicated F2P players--most of whom probably don't have meaningful employment--have ever studied economics.  I certtainly would never go to a local restaurant I like and demand that they feed me for free unless I happen to order some particular menu item.  I pay to play because I like to get paid to work--and for someone, writing and maintaining an MMORPG is work.

So, as near as I can factor it out, either you pay them through item malls or you pay them through monthly dunnage.  I like monthly dunnage.  It's regular, it's easy to budget, and there's no chance I'll overspend just to get that Crystal Loincloth and then have to explain where the money went when the rent comes due.  If that doesn't make sense to you, then...maybe you think other people are idiots.

Originally posted by Quizzical

MMORPGs don't become more fun as you get higher level.  They become less fun.  I've never yet seen an exception to this.  To concede that the game isn't fun at the lower levels is to concede that the game isn't fun, period.  Expecting someone to take half a year to prove that this game isn't an exception either is absurd.

Well, I've seen games where the fun level stayed about the same from end to end--but that might support your hypothesis more than contradict it. 

There's also DAoC, where everyone told me that the real game began at 50.  I never did understand why those other 49 levels were there as preamble.  I didn't get past about level 20 before I gave up in despair.

My own opinion is that as long as you can continue to grow and develop the character, the game remains interesting.  Once that growth stops, or gets to a stage in which further growth is meaningless, then it's game over. That being said,  I'm not disagreeing with you in principle.  If the low level experience isn't fun, why bother trying to slog through the swamp to get to the "real fun?"

Honestly, I just read the site and it doesn't look all that new, innovative, or more interesting than any other Mystic Age of Loincloths MMORPG out there.  From what I can see, it's just another product from a bunch of guys who apparently don't understand the meaning of the word "final."

Of course, I've thought about being the Captain, or the Exec, or the Science Officer, or even the Chief Engineer.

But what I really want to be is...a lumberjack!  Leaping from tree to tree as they float down the mighty rivers of British Columbia! The Fir! The Larch! The Redwood! The mighty Scots Pine! The plucky little Aspen! The great limping rude tree of Nigeria! The smell of fresh-cut timber! The crash of mighty trees! With my best gal by my side, we'd sing, SING...
 

 It isn't just EA.  A company I helped get off the ground was bought by a large three-letter corporation (not IBM, I hasten to say) and they've done nothing but alienate our customers, misunderstand the marketplace, and contribute to brain-drain as just about all the people (other than myself) with any skills at all have left.  I'm still there because I'm getting a little old to go job hunting--but who knows?  If the idiocy continues, I'm going to have to leave.

Hey,  none of the game toons is going to look like any of you guys, so what's the beef?

Maybe there were issues getting licenses to use the particular actor's likenesses.  Could just be a legal thing. I  wouldn't read too much into it.

"CrapG-1" indeed,  Aren't you the clever boy?

 Now we're talkin'!  What's not to like about this announcement?

Originally posted by JustTalking

I voted yes but LondonMagus is right, it would be impossble to enforce.

 

Oh, I don't know about that.  Kids can easily be detected because of their tendency to use sub-par English while chatting.  They can't seem to spell the word "you" with more than one letter.  Phrases like "sry i gtg" are a dead giveaway. Inability to use apostrophes and correct capitalization would shine the spotlight on them.  At that point, the player community simply tags them and off they go into the digital ether!

Now, you're going to counter that the little snots could hide themselves by improving the quality of their written language so that they weren't detectable.

I'd call that a win-win.