All Posts by salvaje

I tried to like "what it is" and more than gave it, and the Devs a fair shake to improve it, a year and a half between stints resubbing to be exact.  I'm not ever giving it such a chance again, I've been gone more than a year now and will remain gone, even if they re-instated Pre-CU tomorrow.

Simply put, "what it is" is utter crap, a submediocre game with a collapsed population that isn't very fun.  The only thing "massive" about this MMO is the amount of bugs.

And it's impossible to not compare it to the past.  Yes, it had bugs and issues, but I'd rather have a fun and broken game any day over an unfun and broken game.

The worst decision of them all is to keep this long past rotten corpse of a game still open.

The only thing that the Devs/management were listening to was their own egos and hubris.

At this point I hate SOE and LEC so much that I'd not go back under _ANY_ circumstances.  Basically I want to see Smed and the rest of the loons at SOE fired more than I want Pre-CU.

What a really lame and stupid publish.

But hey, I guess it's Starwars-Y and Iconic, and Obraik and his 5 friends who still play the NGE will love it.

A year or two ago, sure.  Today?  No, that ship has sailed.  What I want more than anything is to see the NGE close down and SOE to have mass firings of everyone from Smed down like LEC had recently.

The author of that piece is just another asshole developer who "doesn't get it" only realizes the NGE was wrong because it failed but wasn't able to see it at the time...

Which shows you just how talentless and incompetent the SOE Dev team was (and is)..  People with talent foresee problems.  Lackeys can only react to them.  The NGE was clearly a kneejerk reaction to the failure of the CU.  Instead of dealing with what we didn't like about CU, they instead decided they didn't go far enough.

It's telling that NOT ONE DAMN PERSON on that whole Dev and management team had one lick of sense to be able to even imagine the NGE as the disaster it so obviously was going to be. 

Also, why in the hell did any of them think that it was BETTER than the CU/Pre CU game or combat?  No customers did.

Basically everyone involved in the CU and NGE have no business in the industry. 

/shock

SOE has lied, LIED to us!

(it's actually shocking when SOE tells the truth.  That's rarer than Jedi should have been in SWG, btw).

Someone confirm that he was fired in the recent LEC purge?

PLEASE!

I am one who thinks the LEC house cleaning was an absolute requirement to make the company decent again.  JIM Ward's incompetent organization has to be burned down to be rebuilt.

That means purging LEC of everyone associated with and who believe in Ward's way of mismanagement...

SOE hates people with a brain who can think.

Which is why they love the "casual" audience. Simply put, SOE thinks they know what you like more than you do.  They still do, despite the unprecedented epic FAIL that is the NGE and current SWG. 

Fuck em.  I won't give them another cent and neither should you.  Let the NGE die.  Let SOE die.  Let SONY die.

As far as LEC goes, I hope and pray that Julio Torres was one of those let go in the recent purge.  He deserves it, the stupid wanker.

Originally posted by Avos

The only thing that makes the NGE bearable...

Pulling the plug.

Or shoot it in the head.

Good points. 

Just more evidence that the people who have run (ruined) SWG over the years are blithering idiots who are too incompetent to manage a 1 car funeral much less a MMO.

It's sad to go look at the suckboards these days.  I can't believe anyone is delusional enough to think that SOE, especially being led by an airhead like Blixtev, will EVER accomplish anything constructive with the NGE.

The latest crafting revamp is proof positive.  Everyone hates bio link and no trade.  Most want decay back.  Solution?  Bio link and no trade as decay.

The NGE being gone is not only necessary, it's the BASELINE MUST DO for ANY negotiation to occur.

There is nothing that can be done to the NGE except get rid of it that will appease any of us. 

The time to negotiate a compromise in the NGE to make it palatable is YEARS past.

That's what we were misled into thinking the summits were.

There is absolutely nothing at this point they can do to the NGE that will bring anyone back.  Nothing.  They'd have more players if they loaded up a 3 year old server backup tape than spend 6 years adding shit to the NGE.

If it's "Star Wow" it will fail.

Originally posted by Plasuma!!!

WOW!!! ANOTHER STAR WARS MMO!!!!

I love how everyone is totally ignoring the fact that LA just laid off a hundred folks in favor of out-sourced labor, and that a former EA COO is now their president.

You know the MMO is going to be DOA if the LA staff has anything to do with it. If BioWare is not in 100% control, then the project is doomed.

Considering the intellectual and talent ghetto that LEC's internal development staff must have been given the piss poor games and decisions they've been making over the past few years, in my mind, this purge HAD to happen.  Whether they want to outsource or develop internally again, LEC needs to be torn down before it can be rebuilt.  Jim Ward poisoned that well too thoroughly for it to be cleaned. 

When was the last time that a completely internally developed LEC game was both good and sold well?  The mid 90's?

So, a lot of dead weight was chucked overboard.  Hopefully Torres was amongst them.  I guess Nancy made the right choice to leapfrog her way out ahead of the train as well.

KOTORMMO isn't guaranteed to do any better than the NGE currently is.  Only way that it will is if it's not a WOW clone, when it likely will be more WOW than Pre-CU.

You are correct in saying that the NGE won't survive a new MMO launch, there is no financial reason to keep it open AT ALL except to keep something going to have a player base (tiny as it is) to move to the new game.

Frankly the only way the new game gets to 100K subscribers or more is if they learned the REAL lesson of the CUNGE, that being that skills based and hardcore is the game that your real "target audience" wants and will pay for.  WOW with lightsabers= sub 25K players.

I doubt that LucasArts realizes this.

Originally posted by JackBauer24

As many of you are, I also am mad about CU/NGE that hit SWG.  My question is why did SOE do it?  Why did they create two awful updates that would butcher it?  I have never in my life played a better MMO than SWG Pre CU.  IT was the most fun I have ever had playing a game and I have never found a game up to par to this day. 

 

Also many of you have heard of KOTOR3 MMO.  To be honest even if this rumor is true, I would still be worried for another mistake.  However, we will see and hopefully it does come out and is $*#$ amazing

Greed.  Stupidity.  Blindness.  Arrogance.

Basically the CUNGE happened because LEC and SOE got WOW envy and decided that they were going to change the game to appeal to a larger "target audience".  They didn't give a shit about the existing customer base they had, we were written off (this was admitted to by Jeff Freeman).

The obvious happened, collapse of the subscriber base and the ruination of the reputations of companies and individuals involved.

Of course it didn't help them that the NGE was complete and utter crap that was AT BEST in a pre-alpha state when released to live.  In the last 2+ years, the trained chimps (with apologies to trained chimps) on the skeleton crew Dev team have managed to move the NGE from pre-alpha to early-Beta in quality, but have yet to make a combat system that works.

One wonders how many of the NGE decision makers got the axe over at LEC this week...  If I were Julio Torres I'd NOT want to be looking for another job, in this economy, with the NGE on his resume.

The worst part of the NGE is...  The NGE.  And it's still the game.

It has no redeeming qualities AT ALL which is why the subscriber numbers collapsed.

I play EVE.

Any SWG vet who found a new game that isn't EVE...  Is playing a version of the NGE.  Seriously.