I like the game I just wish people understood the tank and cleric class more the cleric is not and I do mean not a healer they are a class that midigate's damage and has some heals yes but not enough to keep players alive they need to use pots for that. As for tanking its not hard you have to be in guard mode which means shield up and you stand there blocking using the attacks you get from it and you build agro based on that if you remember to mark the target which you have tab them to mark and then you have your group mark skill which you can use if you pump alot into guard feats then you can keep agro all day but other wise you cant tank if you dont block and attack.

The games fun minus the lame ogre farms in the foundry the other quests that I mostly do there are a mix of story adventure and combat and those can be fun and challenging even the group ones that are player made are fun. The only thing that bugged me was guild bank needing 150k AD to open that seems a bit high for what you get its not enough daily cause still can not get 24k a day at 45 maybe 13 to 15k max but you have to log in every hour to get the gods bonus stuff other then that you can get about 7k running all the daily AD stuff. That games fun though and challenging in dungeons and skirmishes I just hope at 60 all dungeons become open cause some I missed do to how fast you lvl.

Tell you what I played NWN 1 and 2 and this is not then in no way its Neverwinter no nights included but as far as the game goes its a good game it has the Foundry which is really easy to use. The class system they took from Champions pre made class system and it works you get some customization to your character through the paragon paths but each class only has one for now and they have said they plan on adding more classes later and Drow should be in soon as a race.  What I think alot of people where expecting was NWN Online and thats not what you have here its more like another form of DDO with less jump hanging and latter use but same old dungeon crawl with player made adventures and I have done some that are really good and fun even did B2 Keep on the boarderlands this morning and they did a good job converting it.

So my opinion is download it and try it its fun.

Great right up Bill you did right by it and also congratz on the baby you will be having fun now.

As for the game I have the same feeling about certain thing like the VIOP and the chat but the rest of the game is fantastic you are never with out nothing to do there is just to much besides missions and story there are DE's even tho there are only about 6 or 7 different ones there fun and then there are ARKFALLS which do get old after time but still fun to do. 

PVP is not bad but it need some fixes like the cloak shottys need to tone down and Shadow war's need a faster time on them. Instances are a blast and they need to add end boss rewards like one or two items rewards also maybe like a named item thats gold or purple  that randomly drops would be cool. I like that at ego 1200 I can go to any area of the map and still get owned by NPC's and hope they keep it this way. Other then that I like this as much as Guild Wars 2 and thats saying alot.

This is a cool guy doing a live stream and giving away free copys every so often so come watch.

http://www.twitch.tv/faucius

Originally posted by Lahuzer
Is the game up and running now? I tried to update the client I had in BETA, but nothing happend, and then it says the servers are unavailable. So is it down, or do I need to install another version of the game?

They state on the forums you can not use beta client to update to live must download new one from the site to get it or purchase copy from store.

Yes will be playing launch day.

Originally posted by Volkon

OK, here's the skinny as I see it. I first really bothered looking in any way, shape or form at Defiance about a week before the last Beta, and that was because the show got me interested. OK, shooter, persistent world, B2P... why not. Got a Beta code, got in, had fun. A lot of fun. Now, I'm a resident GW2 fanboy (and proud of it!), so I'm a bit spoiled on dynamic, living feeling MMO worlds, and Defiance... well, it's not that, but they really have the potential there if they wish to unlock it. From what I saw in the Beta, and what I have yet to see at all, I get the impression that they are, like GW2, releasing at a good place and have a ton of potential to get loads better. I had enough fun that I bought the game for my son and myself. It's a really, really good game for not only what it is but what it can be as well.

 

No, I won't be quitting GW2. Just saying.  But this will be my "other" game and may compete for play time.

Volkon I feel the same way as you I played the beta and was feeling like it was GW2 and there are DE,s but they only have one thing and thats it but sometimes the world felt alive when I would run across and event or quest someone else was doing and jumped into help. The game does have alot going for it and if they do like they say and release 5 dlc's by this time next year we could see this game grow big like huge big. 

In a few other videos I have watched I have seen snow areas and some huge underground cave complex plus alot of other areas that where not in beta or in the game world we know now as far as I can tell. So maybe they have alot of plans as time goes by. Lets hope they do and keep our fingers crossed.

Originally posted by brycegrit
Hey ali im trying to keep optomistic about it, we have something that could be amazing or could fall right on its face. Im going to be trying to push out youtube content for players and those at triton worlds to show things that are wrong and could be worked on . Hopefully the community does the same in there way or joins so we can make this game amazing . 

I agree Bryce we need more doing this I will be playing it on PS3 because I did smoke alot of players using a game pad in Shadow Wars but also I have alot of PS3 friends and my son wants to play I also got a PC copy and maybe later will get one for my wife if she likes it so far she can't wait for the show.

Originally posted by Strathdor
They should have instead focused on humans and add other races as expansions which would have been a far smarter move. They could have at least then created end-game content which doesn't exist at all in this game. This game was a huge let down for those who like epic boss fights with large parties. Oh ya this game has a huge solo factor to it which means the community is not really social at all and very distent from each other. I miss the days of FFXI which made people socialize to accomplish impossible tasks but that seems to no longer exist in these MMORPGs these days.

Well FFXI is still around and people do play it or did they nerf it? As for the solo content name one game out that you can't solo to end game please cause almost all mmo's can be soloed to end game even UO and EQ can be. As fo there not being any big bosses please explain the dragons and chapions in Orr and other areas that can noot be soloed like the Giant in Naglin in Dessia platue or the Champion Spider in the Asura starter area or any of the bosses that have large chests after you defeat them thay all are a challenge alone and you need a group. How about the Devourer outside Ebonhawk that has been infected by the shatter hes not a solo ceature.

And other games have this as well where theres bosses you can not solo with out a group pretty much every one out there does. I could go on but this whole thing where games are to easy is really getting old even Archage has this how do I know been doing the beta and feel that its a Themebox more then anything with its set up but I still enjoy it. Just like TERA might not be that great with the questing because they followed the thempark quest grind but its a good game. Or TSW which went out on a limb and is a good game because they are not the norm. Yes I play alot of mmos and hardly ever stick to just one sometimes I have upto 6 on my system and I bounce around them during the week and right now I have 6 on my system and play all of them. So you can anserw the questions on what games are nto easy to lvl to max and have world bosses or as most love raid bosses that can be soloed at end game and I will call false cause I have not found one ever.