Haha, this thread is a joke .Ppl trying to convince each other of the "great PvP" out there.

A great PvP mmo needs a competitive environment, this is only ganking and zerging. There is no distinguishing of who is good or who is bad. We all run on the field like headless chickens trying to catch and kill anything we can find.

A great PvP mmo needs one ore more of the following elements:

- A few vs few instanced rated environment like WoW arena. Much can be said of WoW but arena is actually the first attempt to this kind of PvP. Since it is the first ofc its full of flawes. This concept needs polish and improvement which no other MMO try to bring.

- team vs team instanced rated environment. Havent seen any kind of this yet.

- open world objective based PvP. Some kind of "we got this place we pwn".

- ok, some ganking and zergins which AIOn brings.

Aion those unfortunately not bring anything refreshing except the great animations I must say.

Originally posted by jimmy123

I havn't seen a game on the market which would ever challenge WoW's population, that was untill now.

I belive that SWTOR will be the next big game 2010.  To be honest it's about time somethik epic should be  developed.

Iv'e been let down with AoC , WaR & TR let's hope that SWTOR won't go down the same road.

HAHA

This should be a autopost and sticky for every game in developmen. hahah.. always ppl predict the next WoW killer. This will be probably as craphammer.

The only game that will kill WoW is possible blizzards next gen MMO. Thats about it. Blizzard is the best game developer out there for MMOs. In blizzard we trust.

300k, cool.

I thought the game would be below 200k. I havent played this since october but it's nice to see there are people still hanging in there in craphammer.

No but seriously, I think me and a lot of others had higher expectations due to the fact that the warhammer world is really awesome but this game doesnt nearly give me that feeling of awesomeness.

For me this game was really zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. But still nice to see they are hanging in there.

I was a beta tester and didnt like the state of WAR at release so I decided to wait.

Just checking back now and surprised to see that there will be official forums for WAR now. What made Mythic change their minds? 

I remember everyone flaming posts requesting official forums (I wanted them too) backed up by Mark Jacobs with wall of text on statistics that only 1 % of player base are on forums and saying "look at WoW forums and the QQ fest".

LOL at Mythic now... I guess the "statistics" on active players on this game says it all.

Props for destruction for exploiting this!!

that is why destruction is cool. They always find a way to win.

order is nothing but lame.

destro ftw

/signed

This game is like queueing up for battleground at the battlemaster in WoW unfortunately. I was hoping for a lot more world action but again we have another bg party.

HAHA.

"war is about tactics and strategy". hahaha.. how many of you kids are still kidding yourself this game is not about the big zerg steamrolling the smaller zerg?

war is tactical is the biggest BS I have heard in this game. I love war but it sure isnt any tactical at all:

1. There is hardly any reactionary to the skills I use as a WE. I spam same combo over and over again without paying attention to my opponent and still works fine.

2. the open RvR is nothing byt outnumbering the others. There are not tactics. We rush, we steamroll Order and we repeat. No tactics, no strategy.

And these kinds of threads popping up going "this is about strategy" only proves people like me correct. You must feel so insecure that you need to repeat this over and over again and hope to fool yourselves.

Just enjoy the big zerg fest, nothing wrong with the zerg, personally I love it!!

I only joined WAR because of the open world PvP and now that is the least played thing in this game. Scenarios are over crowded and we have a whole new WoW.

They should buff xp gained and rewards in general from open world RvR.

This game at its current state doesnt offer anything special. They have a great idea and design on their hand but the execution is just poor.

Originally posted by Pheace

God another Xfire thread -_-

I agree on one thing and that is this game is definetely a 2003-2004 game.

I think it's fun but definetely nothing I would expect from a 2008 game.

I dont mind the graphics at all but I agree that they seem older than 2008. Unfortunately they using DaOC engine with some improvements but the game definetely doesnt feel like 2008.

We just all have to wait until blizzard reveals its next gen mmo, starcraft universe. Then this game will die very very fast.

Blizzard will make the next gen mmo world PvP focused. 3 races, epic wars.

For a MMO launch I think it is very solid.

Some of the ciritism I have to this game are:

1. When I hit some other player I dont feel the impact. The animations are lacking really bad I often I dont know what the hell is happening. I dont see this is an issue since this can easily be fixed over time.

2. Clunkiness. The game right now is too clunky, or at least not smooth enough. But this can also be fixed over time.

3. Gameplay, this is my biggest fear. There is no reaction to the opponent in WAR. Everyone runs around doing their own business. As a WE I just run up to casters doing my combo without paying one single attention what the BW is gonna do because it doesnt matter what he does. He is going to die whatever button he presses. And this is a big turnoff. in WoW mage vs rogue I dont feel confident all the time despite playing rouge.

Frost mage can do good range with blink, frost nova and it is a 50/50 I will win. But here vs a BW it is 90% chance I will win. Where the hell is the reaction to the opponent?

WAR is a disappointment in combat area and what sounded good on paper with minimal CC and specialized classes has been executed really poorly.

HAHA, you sound pathetic. You should stop playing video games.

Listen to yourself. You sound like the end of the world has come. hahahah.... dude, chill, relax. The game just came out. It is going to get better from here. You thought it would be perfect at launch? this is one of the most smooth mmo releases ever.

Thank you for your wall of text and indepth review of the game. Just making sure that the negative reviews also gets a thank you. Specially a well written such as yours.

*sigh* and people wonder why threads like the one OP started gets flamed and called trolls.

Originally posted by Evasia

Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning 46182  RANK#5

 

Lol, why not impressive? 5 rank in opening week counting in all games?? hahah

jackass....

Dont need to comment on what you have written but I will say I am impressed how well you write for a 7 year old kid.

I also cancelled my WoW account and agree. Thank you Mythic for a job well done and a solid launch.

I dont worry about the bugs I see because from here it can only get better and the game in its initial state is rock solid.

Finally I can actually leave WoW. I thought that day would never happen.

If you enjoy good PvP as well as PvE alternating those two is a good idea. However I absolutely hate PvE/ any type of Human vs Machine/Scripted games so WoW doesnt offer anything fun for me.

WoW is an excellent PvE game and has amazing good combat feel to it but unfortunately PvP is absolutely horrible.

You fight to get gear and that means "everybody for himself" mentality. There is no faction/team feel to the game at all. Losing a bg means nothing so just go botting. PvP wise the game is static and boring as hell.

 My biggest hope is that it seems Blizzard is realizing that PvP is a major thing in MMO world and their next gen MMO will be designed with this in mind from the start. And also, lets hope it is a sci-fi mmo, starcraft

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by ProfRed

bodypass is a WoW fanboy, and has been trolling these forums lately.  He, like fingis, doesn't listen to reason and takes every chance he can to slam the game.

Anyway, I talk, and have been involved in a ton of conversation in my playtimes.  Maybe that's because I talk though....  Or because I play with friends, or guild mates, or other guild's guild mates. 

Actually the longest I went in a MMO without having anyone talk to me or acknowledge my existence is WoW.  It made me laugh and say to myself, 'What the hell does it matter if there are 10 million+ players when 99% of them only care about themselves, and their gear.'  I had more interaction playing on a 16 person fps server than with 10 million people in WoW... 

I hope you're better fed than your picture ProfRed.
 

Everyone who doesn't adore WAR (although I play it) and loves to play Wow is a troll in your eyes. Perhaps you should realise peoples opinions differ and if I would really troll and "attack" YOUR sacred game I would take a whole other kind of ammunition in these War forums.I would tackle the new game in a decent way but not in these WAR forums.

Now to my conclusion as of today
Every War copy sold is free publicity for WotLK.

And I hope you understand what I mean by it. :))

Have a nice meal.

Why should it be free publicity for WotLK? You assume by not playing WAR ppl want to play WoW, LOL.

I still want to world PvP you know and WoW isnt for PvP players. WoW is a good and solid game for PvE players.

And pls dont say "arena". Introducing that crap destroyed all my hope for the future of the game because then I knew Blizzard would never ever go for a good world PvP design. And no, lake wintergrasp isnt good.

I promise you one thing.

If this game would have death penalty people would go berserk on the forums. You die quite fast in open RvR and poeple would get frustrated if they couldnt jump into the action fast enough.

the funny thing is you OP, would probably list that as a complaint if there was a significant death penalty. I can see one of your bullet points right now:

- Death penalty, great idea. Now I cant participate in the action all the time but have to "sit out" and listen to music and do other crap while my characther jumps into the action again just to be killed instantly again.

There is no good design on death penalty. Majority of players actually want to play. It would be exciting for 5-10 minutes then just fcking annoying.