I stoped playing this joke, WAR, a few weeks ago, i suggest (OP) you do the same, any person looking for a balanced pvp game, should avoid WAR, period.

Originally posted by gan3f

This game reminds me of Fury and we all know how well that worked out.

I loved fury, and to be honest, i do miss it.

Lets hope your skill on reading tea leaves fails here :)

Originally posted by someforumguy

Originally posted by ZoOoO

Originally posted by someforumguy

 devs+distributors are just hypocrite with their cursed IP block.

Think on the same way, TCOS`s Dev's had to give something away in order to find a publisher, and probably what the gave away was some control about the way TCOS was going to be publish, in order to keep full control about the way TCOS is going to develop.

Is actually a much better way, a much fair way of thinking, when talking about this issue.

 

Peace. Zoo

No it isnt as simple as that. The devs are also present at contract negotiations, or at least someone who represents them. A deal goes both ways.

They already had a deal with the EU publishers. So how on earth could Acclaim manage to get away with this? The only reason I can imagine, is that the TCoS devs underestimated the impact of IPblocking would give. Maybe Acclaim expected it (because this is the party in this deal with more experience in the MMO industry), but just wanted it to push through because for them it would mean more subscriptions. So I really wonder if the TCoS team realised what the result would be of this.

Like you I can only guess and assume things about this situation, but if you look at the EU player reactions it can only result in less players.

To me it sounds like a beginners mistake.  The only winner here is the last publisher that came to the table : Acclaim.

While the players and the TCoS team (with hindsight) are the losers.

It is also as if those publishers like to have a bad name in the player's eyes. Maybe the problem is that they cant measure how many players they lost through these actions.

The team behind TCOS had to give something away, and i think, we do agree about this point.

Whatever they gave away end up been more than they had should gave away, is something, we could just , as u say, imagine.

AS i say on my post, i am ready to be easy on those guys, since they are an Indy company, and probably, they had to sell a pice of soul to the devil, but not just because i am a bit naif, but also, because, they deserve some respect, because, they are thinking out of the box, in some concepts.

If they keept on their side, the last word about the way TCOS would evolve on time,  maybe they are smarter than many people think.

Peace Zoo

Originally posted by gitawego

Originally posted by ZoOoO

I was able ( my IP is actualli blocked, ) to gaze into the german forum, and there is a bit of talk talk about how dificult it is/it was to find the game on the shops.

 

Actually a guy made a joke saying, probably the first ever quest at TCOS, is actually to find the game at shops , brilliant hahahahah

 

I mean,. i really wish a brilliant future for TCOS, but, ufff, man, weirdest release since i can remenber.

dude, it's easy to get a copy from AMAZON: http://www.amazon.de/Frogster-Interactive-Pictures-Chronicles-Spellborn/dp/B001KEMGHU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1227895406&sr=1-1

only 14.99 euros. but you have to understand german

 

I am sure it is easy to use Amazon ( never use it myself, so i cant comment)  and get a copy, however, what i wanted to share on my post, was how dificult was actually getting the game at almost any gaming shop, on germany, on the relase day.

 As i also wanted to share the joke this guy  made about his first ever quest into TCOS lore :)    meaning, finding the game at any given shop, wich i found really funny, the way he portrait, the fact, many people, cant actually find the game at shops :)

So i am sure, it is easy to get a copy on Amazon, but, it is it is redundant.

I was able ( my IP is actualli blocked, ) to gaze into the german forum, and there is a bit of talk talk about how dificult it is/it was to find the game on the shops.

Actually a guy made a joke saying, probably the first ever quest at TCOS, is actually to find the game at shops , brilliant hahahahah

I mean,. i really wish a brilliant future for TCOS, but, ufff, man, weirdest release since i can remenber.

Originally posted by someforumguy

 devs+distributors are just hypocrite with their cursed IP block.

We should give some credit to the Dev's, honest, it is a Indy company, there was not EA or SOE or one for those giants behind them all this time throwing money at them.

They had to find someone to publish the game,period, and probably, Acclaim was the only one willing to to do so, and to be honest with you, it is nor surprising since we can actually feel the way new MMO`s usually end up on the bin, think about TR, Vanguard, AoC, even WAR is getting a huge hit, and all those, they had a big company developing them

Even the MMO based on Halo was scraped, and the biggest reason for that was the fact that MMO games/world is very unstable, and even big companies behind huge games experience huge loses

Now you imagine those guys behind TCOS knocking on several doors and trying to find a publisher for a new mmo where armor is stat-less, where there is not epic swords, where skill actually matters, it is not based in a well known book, it is their first work etc etc etc etc

I still remember when i first started to look for a job when i did finish University, and yes, i had to sell a piece of my soul and eat-out my proud in order to get this first job, which would allow me to grow/develop my skills

Think on the same way, TCOS`s Dev's had to give something away in order to find a publisher, and probably what the gave away was some control about the way TCOS was going to be publish, in order to keep full control about the way TCOS is going to develop.

Is actually a much better way, a much fair way of thinking, when talking about this issue.

Peace. Zoo

Originally posted by BesCirga

I can assure you, Spellborn PvP is addictive and very fun. I had some great pvp fights in CB I will not soon forget.

Here a few pointers why I found the pvp enjoyable:

• New and refreshing combat system that isnt tedious.
• You can easily kill an enemy 15-20 levels above you
• Its sucks to die, losing your PeP. (But watch out for PeP 0 characters, they have no fear!)
• You can still win fights even if you start the battle with 50% health.
• Gear means nothing - your skill deck setup is the alpha & omega.

Alittle PvP advice to finish this post off. (will probably mean nothing to you now untill you experience it yourself)  -   Dont spam your attacks as fast as you can throw them out. Aim and make sure you hit, so you dont lose your combo

/pwnie

i cant wait till 5th

By the way, any word from the germany? they started it today right ?

Originally posted by ronan32

Not having an official forum just proves even more that they dont want to listen to their "paying" customers. They're basically saying "buy the game and shut the hell up", with no forums. Seriously if someone investigated these mmo companies and the way they threat their customers with numerous lies and marketing scams they would literally be shut down.

Not true. As a good exmeple, you could think about Mytic (WAR) ArenaNet/Ncsoft (GW).

Have a look, on ArenaNet/Ncsoft, since they have been dealing with GW players at non Ofical forums for the last 3 years, and they prove, it works just fine

Originally posted by summitus

Amazing how fast sycophantic fanboi's crawl out of the woodwork .....

Trolls usually show on the party earlier than fanbois. Do u agree ?

Thx for Sharing, nice review.

But will EA be patient?

 Could not careless, i am a patience man, meanwhile, i`ll rather stop my sub and not waste those euros.

I agree about TCOS IP blocking is by far the biggest dissapointment this year for me.

I shoould also mention WAR, fun for a few days, but after i did  play 100 times torn anroc,  could not stand it anymore.

Originally posted by APRAurore

I can only speak for the EU servers but it seems like the game pop is more balanced Order vs Destro on a lot of the servers I've played on. The problem is that there are just not enough people overall.

 

 

Agree, and it is a big issue, personally i wont be playing when my sub ends (25th).

A huge mistake was to open as many servers as they did, and to segregate the EU players as much as they did.

  Huge maps/land as WAR has, needs much more than a  of thousand people on each side.

Also, having as many RvR zones as the game has atm, segregate even more the players

Does not feel empty, it is empty indeed. Merge servers could be a good first step, but they decide to just let some players use transfers, so people not  on high populated or low populated servers, are screw, waitting till some miracle happend and fill those servers .... Fine, i`ll wait, but i wont keep paying.

Originally posted by Dameonk

Originally posted by fantaros 

At least UK at this point knows they will have a server to play on. I live in the rest of Europe (~35 or so countries) and we don't get to play anywhere. These guys seem like they don't even want our money...

 

Taking a very unknown and niche game and making it even more niche does not seem like a good idea to me.

But what do I know, I'm just a consumer who was ready to give Spellborn some of my money, until this decision, at least.

Count me in, this decision is stupid.

 Even i was trying to make people know about this game in several spanish gaming forums, i imagine they dont want our money.

 fine.

/agree        

XFire should be taken into account as a good tool to be used to do some statistics

If you still got any more doubts, i shall suggest you  to check this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistics

We are not saying xfire statistics are an empirical work, nevertheless, Xfire, is a good tool, to reflect gaming patters.

Originally posted by ste2000

I am looking forward for this game, but quite frankly, if Tasos is so sure about beta players giving positive feedbacks, he should do the only decent thing in my view.........drop the NDA

This update doesn't make sense, and to be honest it looks quite fishy.

Probably, the most relevant post ( besides tasos info) at this topic.

Originally posted by karat76

Honestly to me the world just felt dead. I didn't feel like I was in a world more like I was just standing around waiting to do scenarios.

I had the same feeling.

Originally posted by lkavadas

I think Guild Wars has the worst PvP I've ever seen.  The combat mechanics and balance are very nice but the organizational apparatus is quite poor IMO.  I mean, this is technically an MMO and my PvP is on a smaller scale then even the smallest of Counter Strike servers.

That ain't right.

I do like the game though.

as someone who played for 2 years PvP at GW, i have to mention that the level of tactics you could find at some GvG ( guild versus guild) makes those fights, became something "huge" + the mechanics behind GvG at GW made GW the most balanced PvP ( non fps) game out there, still is.

"worst PvP" is a label, cant be attached to this game, at all.

Originally posted by Mysk

Originally posted by Waterlily

 

I just had to quote this.  Now that's a way to answer.

Personally I own a 360, but I regret having bought this instead of the PS3.

• I have an HDTV and I would like to be able to watch HD movies, but I have no blu-ray player.  The PS3 would have given me that.
• The majority (though not all) games released today will be on both systems, so the chance of missing out on a title that I really want is very slim
• The PS3 is a superior multimedia center, supporting a large selection of multimedia formats and it connects easily to the home network for streaming from the PC

On the flip side, the 360 has a lot of sports titles, so if you're into that... to be honest, the OP's post was such a wall of text that I didn't read it.

My vote, though, is the PS3. I have the 360, but I would gladly trade it in for a PS3 to be honest.

Laters.

QFT

I did buy a PS3 a few months ago, i was close to buy the 360, but, for every dollar/euro spend , ps3 gives you more back than an 360.

blue-ray, "fanless" system, brilliant multimedia center, wireless, free online game play, no redlights( and this is a big issue), longer life spam, etc etc

i mean, yes, ps3 is more expensive, but, when you really get into consideration every aspect, such statment, is not actually (ps3 more spensive) true.