then join us!

we'll have fun; seems to be lots of kiddies in this game and I look forward to their eTears when <PV> goes on our killing sprees :)

Originally posted by M4ko

Originally posted by Divlas

"objective review of ER from a sandbox fan"

 

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You really do believe that you are objective?  Nothing to say, I've the same background. Jedi pre patch 9 on SWG, I like Eve, but to be honnest your message is too subjective to be helpful. It's not because your mom tells you that you are an objective person that you really are.

 

I will not advice anyone to buy this game before march and the graphic revamp. I don't want to disguss my guildmates, I know that even if they play only one day to what is online currently, they'll never come back. We all have heard enough lies coming from $o€ to know how careful we should be with developper promises.

 

The one thing which is alarming is that on SWG, the devs were only promising battlefields, a GCW rewamp, but not a patches promising to fix  terrible performances . What if the patch doesn't come in March? Most of the players who bought the game are simply not able to run it on their computers! The minimum requirement written on their site is fraudulent. LOL is it really playable with 512mo of ram? WIth 8giga i've problems...

Agreed. Failed thread, failed user.

ya know, there was a time in my SWG time that I thought it was the right of a paying player to b1tch and moan about the game but then I realized they were negatively influencing people from buying or rejoining the game which in turn made my experience worse. I put my background and gaming likes in the first post so you knew where I was coming from. The people b1tching about, although not saying it explicitly, are make it clear that they dont enjoy a challenge and need their hands held throughout the game. For them I suggest they check out TOR

turning off shadows worked wonders for me... i've never run an MMO with shadows anyway...

other than lag, which you can still play through, all the complaints have either been resolved or are simply a complaint about play-style. . . there aren't tons of 'quests' yet and there is open PVP - if you want to quest in a vacuum, then perhaps this game is not for you - it has never been marketed as anything but what it is.

in an MMO with factions, there has to be SOME PvE - especially in the beginning. You have to get experience/skill/battle points SOMEHOW, right? As much as I like Eve, the skill point-over-time systems isnt very engaging - you arent actively participating in obtaining skills points; you're just traveling to and purchasing books.

In any game, no matter how "sandboxy" it is, there has to be SOME pve element

so far. my biggest complaint in this game is having to listen to all the whiners in chat - if you dont like the game, log out!

so i am neither a fanboi nor a hater; just an MMO player whos been around the block a few times. My favorite mmo was pre-nge SWG; second favorite is Eve. I hate questing and I hate being locked into a certain play-style / combat role. For the longest time in SWG I was a Pistoleer/Master Architect and I had a blast.

Anyway, I've played just about every MMO that's been released since 2003 and none of them have stuck for all the same reason - there was but one way to play and the quests lead you the entire way.

So that tells you what kind of player I am and what type of game I am looking for.

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Pros

• You can use any weapon; you're just going to be better at using the ones you invest your BPs (battle points) into.
• I can put my battle / skill points anywhere - If i want to be a crafter with a little bit of combat, i can do it.
• You can attack ANYTHING and ANYONE - but there are repercussions. I REALLY like that you have to consciously hold down the control key in order to attack an NPC or Player that is not an enemy. This will prevent people from whining later when the repercussions don't go their way.
• Aiming for combat - I get so tired of Tabbing targets and just mashing keys - you actually have to do something in this game ot be effective in combat.
• PvE isnot the only  choice - I dont like to PvE; I only want to PvE in order to get something (faction, credits, gear).
• PvP is NOT a choice
• Great tech/GM support

• Limited customizations in character creation
• Can't do keymap from options screen (i HIGHLY suggest a game pad for this - i am using the nostromo n52)
• Laggy- reminds me of being in corellia in early days of SWG; or restuss in later days of SWG
• Loading Screen takes FOR-EV-ER
• Controls are a little wonky but use traditional WASD movements. I get a little cornfused  with my Alt and Tab key but that is a leftover from SWG where Alt does what tab does here... 

Basically, the cons aren't REAL cons - these are growing pains. I expect lag in a newbie area of a game released less than 24 hours ago. I expect that my old-man mind and fingers are going to need some time to get used to new controls. What I DO think they need to do is work on the character creation - players like to highly customize their toons; it helps us connect to the world.

As for support, I gotta say, MS is doing great! THey resolved their initial issues and have superb in game support. I mentioned something in chat about not being able to attack an NPC and a GM showed up a few mintues later to tell me what I was doing wrong (not holding down CTRL on a "white" con NPC)

Overall, this game is NOT going to be for everyone - it is not going to be for the SWG players who hated the TEF system and it isnt going to be for the Eve players who raged over their new mining Hulk being destroyed. Like the old SWG and Eve, ER isnt a magical world where your equipment doenst decay without insurance and other players are prevented from attacking you my unknown forces. This is "real world" where your choices actually matter! As long as those that enjoy these "riskier" games are in for the long haul and are understanding of MMO release woes, this game will thrive.

See ya in game

inat

rofl! why would they let a non-subscriber post on their forums?!

Originally posted by Lobotomist

 

 

These games need players to prosper and become good.

And this game might just be the one :)

 

 thanks for this post, Lobo... it's tough to wade through the crap in the other threads to get good information from the bashing. As an old SWG-er I have high hopes that game is somewhat similar to early-SWG where the content was all player driven.  The roadmap presented by masthead seems to make sense too - we'll have a few months to get "good" so when the other content comes out, we'll be ready.

SWG failed when they tried to cater to the MMO-clone carebear crowd. Eve continues to work b/c they never did cater to that crowd and continue to hold true to their intent regardless of the rants from podded miners.

Like SWG, the community is what will make this game successful. Based on the other threads and the rants from the hand-hold crowd, I feel ER will be a place for me. 

Originally posted by pixeldogmeat

 

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Originally posted by Inat_mivea
definitely disappointing to read this; i been waiting for this release. just wondering though - for those that played SWG at release, it too was considered rough. would you have stuck with SWG if it wasnt star wars?

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hell yes, because it was an awesome game to begin with, you could have put any sci-fi skin on it and it would have rocked.

 aww come now, we were blinded by blasters and wookie hair :)

definitely disappointing to read this; i been waiting for this release. just wondering though - for those that played SWG at release, it too was considered rough. would you have stuck with SWG if it wasnt star wars?

well from what i hear it has been worked on concurrently - who knows though?

do I sense some sarcasm, tux?

:)

for those that continue to play, content is content. Realizing what you can control and cannot can be liberating.

I'm just glad it is on schedule - now they can move on to GCW

The new update has cool art - but needs some more content aside from escort missions and collections.

I do give them kudos for the art AND making the new updater playable by ALL (including < lvl 10) - There is a full page add in the new book for SWG so perhaps it will attract some new players. Afterall, 90% of the 'fun' in this game is teh community

here are some more art assets:

Originally posted by stillkillin

Originally posted by Inat_mivea

Originally posted by stillkillin

another win for us vets.

we have 12 servers down and only 13 to go and once again this shows $OE and every gamer out there who is right. right now if pre-cu was still running $OE would be opening more servers due to more and more people wanting to get away from the boring level based games and want a game like swg pre-cu.

and mark my words bioware best be watching. if they think us vets are going to roll over for them cuz they think tor looks nice think again.

 

lol your four years of hard work posting harsh words about SOE is finally paying off!!

 

four years of posting the truth about $OE

four years of telling gamers everywhere to stay away from $OE

four years of $OE making themselfs look bad with stupid unwanted ideas and content

i wonder if we will even see the zombie patch now. i don't think we will.

and after 4 yrs what has it gotten you? game is still running. you WILL see the zombies all they did was close the underpopulated servers. i'm still happy :)

Originally posted by stillkillin

another win for us vets.

we have 12 servers down and only 13 to go and once again this shows $OE and every gamer out there who is right. right now if pre-cu was still running $OE would be opening more servers due to more and more people wanting to get away from the boring level based games and want a game like swg pre-cu.

and mark my words bioware best be watching. if they think us vets are going to roll over for them cuz they think tor looks nice think again.

lol your four years of hard work posting harsh words about SOE is finally paying off!!

i dont think that anyone believes SWG is pulling in hoardes of new players -  I do come across new players every week or so - but for those of us who have remained in game, the FCTS is a success. It has improved the gameplay of those that got to move to new servers and it improved the gameplay of those of us on populated servers by giving us new players to play with.

Why not shut down unused servers?

You vets may want to take notice in case you ever plan on coming back:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=995148

Dear Star Wars Galaxies™ Account Holder,

Due to the overwhelming success of the recent Free Character Transfer Service, we want to inform you that on October 15, 2009, at 5:00 PM PT, Sony Online Entertainment (SOE) will close the following 12 Star Wars Galaxies servers:

Corbantis
Europe-Infinity
Intrepid
Kauri
Kettemoor
Lowca
Naritus
Scylla
Tarquinas
Tempest
Valcyn
Wanderhome
Character creation will be disabled on the affected servers beginning September 15, 2009 at 4:00 AM PDT.

In accordance with the server closure date, the Free Character Transfer service has been extended through October 15. 2009. Between September 15, 2009 and October 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM PT all characters on the affected servers are eligible for a one way, one time Free Character Transfer* to any of the remaining thirteen (13) Star Wars Galaxies servers. After October 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM PT, any characters and their associated items and structures remaining on the identified servers being closed will no longer be accessible on your Star Wars Galaxies or Station Access account.

Please visit http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/freects/ for complete details on how to transfer your character using the Star Wars Galaxies Free Character Transfer Service.

We appreciate your loyalty and commitment to Star Wars Galaxies and value having you in the community. We hope that you will continue to play on one of the 13 thriving Star Wars Galaxies servers and look forward to sharing many more new and exciting Star Wars™ themed adventures with you in the coming months as we introduce the Chronicle Master System, Death Troopers, and the upcoming Galactic Civil War enhancements.

Server Closure FAQ

Sincerely,
Sony Online Entertainment

*Terms and Conditions Apply:

In connection with the identified servers, Free Character Transfer Service will be available through 4:59 PM PDT on October 15, 2009. This "Free Character Transfer Service” only applies to a one-time/once per character move from an identified server to be closed to one of the remaining galaxy servers as determined by SOE in its sole and absolute discretion. All characters much be transferred to and from the same Station account.
Your character must be located on one of the original 10 ground planets at the time of your transfer request to perform a server transfer. The original 10 ground planets are Corellia, Dantooine, Dathomir, Endor, Lok, Naboo, Rori, Talus, Tatooine, and Yavin 4.
For purposes of this Free Character Transfer Service, the identified servers closing October 15, 2009 include: Corbantis, Intrepid, Kauri, Kettemoor, Lowca, Naritus, Scylla, Tarquinas, Tempest, Valcyn, Europe-Infinity and Wanderhome.
Valid destination servers include: Ahazi, Bloodfin, Bria, Chilastra, Eclipse, Europe-Chimaera, Europe-FarStar, Flurry, Gorath, Radiant, Shadowfire, Starsider, and Sunrunner.
To access the Free Character Transfer Service, you must login to Star Wars Galaxies with the character you would like to transfer. You will be notified that your character qualifies for the free character transfer service opportunity when you login. Eligible characters may also enter "/freects" to begin the transfer process. Only one character may be transferred at a time. Please read and respond carefully to each question and answer entry you type. All Character Transfers are considered final and cannot be reversed.
Free Character Transfer Service terms and limitations: Please be aware that Vendors and contents of Vendors will not transfer. Items equipped by the character (and/or contained within items equipped by the character) will transfer. Items in the character's inventory (and/or contained within items in the character's inventory) will transfer. Items in the character's bank (and/or contained within items in the character's bank) will transfer. Items in the character's datapad (and/or contained within items in the character's datapad) will transfer. Items that do not qualify as either "items equipped by the character" or "items in the character's datapad" as noted in the aforementioned terms, will not transfer.
Please note that any items that are connected to your in-game structures must be packed up with the structure(s) or they will not be transferred.
Character names are not guaranteed on galaxy-to-galaxy transfers. If the character's name has already been used on the Galaxy you wish to move to, you will be able to enter a new name in the field provided (subject to the terms and conditions of the Character Naming Policy).
Character transfers from one account to another are not part of the Free Character Transfer Service.
If you attempt to transfer characters in violation of these guidelines, restrictions, the Terms of Use for Star Wars Galaxies, the Software License and Limited Warranty agreement or the Rules and Policies (for instance, attempting to transfer characters from another person's account or to or from an account purchased by or for you for another person on which you are not the original registered user of that account), the characters will not be moved, your request will not be processed or approved, and your account(s) will be subject to review and appropriate disciplinary action taken.
Any characters that are not transferred before the October 15, 2009 server closure date will be removed from your character list.
Sony Online Entertainment and LucasArts do not ensure continuous or error-free access, use or availability of any game content, feature, game-play or server and may change, modify, disable, suspend or remove any such content, feature, game-play or server at their sole discretion.
 

STAR WARS GALAXIES™ SERVER CLOSURE F.A.Q.

Which servers will be closing?

The following 12 servers will be closing on Thursday, October 15 2009:

- Corbantis

- Europe-Infinity

- Intrepid

- Kauri

- Kettemoor

- Lowca

- Naritus

- Scylla

- Tarquinas

- Tempest

- Valcyn

- Wanderhome

When will these 12 servers be closed?

These servers will be closing on Thursday, October 15, 2009, at 4:40 PM Pacific Time.

Why are you closing these 12 Star Wars Galaxies Servers?

The Free Character Transfer Service launched earlier this year with the intention of allowing players to transfer to servers with more active communities, creating a more vibrant and memorable Star Wars Galaxies gaming experience. The Free Character Transfer Service was a phenomenal success, leaving the less active servers in an undesirable position. In order to help streamline the current and new user experience, we have made the decision to close the less active servers and focus on the thriving Star Wars Galaxies servers.

Can I move my characters off of these servers?

Yes, you can move any character from the 12 identified servers up until Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 4:59 PM PT. Please see http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/freects/ for terms and conditions.

Will I be charged to move my characters from these servers?

No. If you take advantage of the Free Character Transfer Service before Thursday, October 15, 2009 at 5:00 PM PT, you will not be charged to transfer your characters to one of the 13 destination servers including:

- Ahazi

- Bloodfin

- Bria

- Chilastra

- Eclipse

- Europe-Chimaera

- Europe-FarStar

- Flurry

- Gorath

- Radiant

- Shadowfire

- Starsider

- Sunrunner

Where can I find out more information on the Free Character Transfer Service?

http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/freects/

What if my account is inactive/closed but I want to move my characters off of these servers?

You must reactivate your account by visiting the www.station.sony.com and entering a valid credit card or Game Time card. Once your account is active, paid, and in good standing you will be able to transfer your character using the Free Character Transfer Service through October 15, 2009.

What happens if I am not able to transfer my characters from these servers before October 15th 2009, can I move my characters after October 15th 2009?

Beginning October 16th, 2009 at 12:01 AM PT you will be able to contact Customer Support and for the standard Character Transfer fee of $50.00 you will be able to schedule a transfer for your character, eligible structures and inventory.

Please be aware that the Character Transfer Service from closed servers does not guarantee that all inventory items will be transferred. Due to the unique nature of moving a character from a closed server, the Character Transfer Service may take additional time to process.

For more information on the Character Transfer Service visit: https://store.station.sony.com/cts/...ertransfers.jsp

What if I don’t want to change servers?

Unfortunately, if you’re on a server that’s slated to be closed you will have to make the move in order to continue playing Star Wars Galaxies.

I like playing the game by myself and don’t care how many players are on my particular server at a given time. Can you just leave me be and let me keep playing?

Sorry, but in an effort to improve the gameplay experience for everyone, all characters on the identified servers must be moved. We encourage everyone to take advantage of the Free Character Transfer Service before October 15, 2009 so that you can move your character at no charge.

Does this mean you’re shutting down Galaxies?

No, not at all. We have lots of new content and updates planned for Galaxies and remain committed to making the game an enjoyable and engrossing experience. The server closure is an effort to improve the gameplay experience for all of our players.