I agree. The Shadowrun system and universe make a great MMORPG.  I'm not sure whose bright idea it was making it an FPS, but I understand that the Vista only game was crap.

This could be a really good game but there is still so many issues that need to be fixed and content that needs to be added. I hope that this isn't one of those multi-year betas....

Originally posted by NotArkard

Originally posted by Astralglide

 

Originally posted by sonicbrew

 

Originally posted by gessekai332

 

Originally posted by sonicbrew

Any game that uses malware that is as harmful as StarForce will never see my machine regardless of how good it may be...

 

what?? there is no malware in this game. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. If you are talking about in game advertising it hasnt been implemented yet and even when it is it will be this dinky little add at the top or bottom of your screen. And that is FAAAR from malware.They are even debating making it optional, and that if you allow them to put their dinky little ad on the corner of your screen you get +10% exp.  

 

The game uses Gameguard which is malware. Maybe you should educate yourself more before you just download everything and anything. Malware is destructive to your PC anyway you look at it. Do a search on Gameguard there is plenty of info. out there...

Uhhhh.... GameGuard isn't technically malware: "Software is considered malware based on the perceived intent of the creator rather than any particular features. It includes computer viruses, worms, trojan horses, spyware, dishonest adware, and other malicious and unwanted software. In law, malware is sometimes known as a computer contaminant, for instance in the legal codes of California, West Virginia, and several other U.S. states.^[1]"

 

Not only that, but Norton 2007 Enterprise doesn't recognize it as such. It apparently used to, but no longer. Gameguard does block keyloggers and bot programs, though.

 

That description is very vague. By what terms is a computer software considered contaminant? A piece of software that hogs up resources when it's not supposed to be in use? Maybe something that hooks itself to the SYSTEM processes and keeps hidden files around even if it is technically uninstalled. I believe unwanted software as being anything as stated above. Since you can wiki "malware" I suggest you wiki "GameGuard" and educate yourself.

 

"Because of its method of actuation (similar to a rootkit), it is criticized for being too invasive. The software installs a device driver and offers no way to uninstall it; even uninstalling the game will still leave some files hidden on the system. In recent versions (revision 1007 and up), GameGuard fails to halt when the game ends, so GameGuard continues to use resources and inject code into processes. This is usually not noticeable to the end-user, as GameGuard masks its intense CPU usage by hooking Windows system querying APIs."

"GameGuard also conflicts with Windows Vista, causing the OS to be recognized by Microsoft as not genuine. This has been fixed with a patch, but many games have not applied this patch yet."

It's also a very poorly-coded and imbalanced piece of software, not even consideringthe horrible side-effects it causes to systems. It's very outdated, thus the reason it was originally not compatible with Windows Vista, and also has compatibility issues with non-English editions of Windows. It's virtually un-usable by the end-user and we have no control of what it does. Even when we're not playing the game, that thing is there invading our resources. That, to me, counts as a computer contaminant and is enough reason for me to never play a game that uses GameGuard.

Since when is Windows Vista Compatibility a sign of health for any software? (There isn't much in the way of older software that does work with Vista) I'm not arguing how well it's coded, but it doesn't stay resident when not in use (I checked) and, if my security software (I use two types) doesn't think its a problem, then I'll go with them, they know more about this then either of us do.

Originally posted by sonicbrew

 

Originally posted by gessekai332

 

Originally posted by sonicbrew

Any game that uses malware that is as harmful as StarForce will never see my machine regardless of how good it may be...

 

what?? there is no malware in this game. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. If you are talking about in game advertising it hasnt been implemented yet and even when it is it will be this dinky little add at the top or bottom of your screen. And that is FAAAR from malware.They are even debating making it optional, and that if you allow them to put their dinky little ad on the corner of your screen you get +10% exp.  

 

The game uses Gameguard which is malware. Maybe you should educate yourself more before you just download everything and anything. Malware is destructive to your PC anyway you look at it. Do a search on Gameguard there is plenty of info. out there...

Not only that, but Norton 2007 Enterprise doesn't recognize it as such. It apparently used to, but no longer. Gameguard does block keyloggers and bot programs, though.

There's a schload of spammers on this thing. Is there anyway to ignore people?

The Have three levels of payment: 1) Free 2) $5 for a month of "silver" status and 3) for a month of "gold" status.

Hear, hear! I think a lot of that has to do with a sense of entitlement that a lot of gamers develop. I can't tell you how many times I've heard: "I've been playing this game since it was a closed beta, so I know what I'm talking about!" Okay, grandpa. The fact that you have given a company money to entertain you for several years doesn't mean much to companies that have millions of customers. It's not like you were elected mayor or that anybody cares what you think. MMOs, like any other game, are supposed to be fun. When something stops being fun, I stop playing. No bitching and moaning, no crying over my level 52 Shaman, (yeah, yeah, he's not even 60- I hate instances), I simply find something else to do.

Just as long as I'm not stuck as a Zergling....

Granted, World of Warcraft was the first MMO that I really got into (I did enjoy Ultima Online when it first came out, but I stopped playing after losing my graveyard job at an ISP back in 1997), but I have found one feature that I think should be universal in MMOs: The Auction House. I am trying out Global a few games right now and have begun to hate the "personal store" idea. Players, especially the more immature ones, have no idea how to price anything and the stores are ruled by greed, idiocy, and websites that sell MMO currency. In WoW, I was an AH whore. Sure there were several items that were overpriced and there was always that person(s) who would undercut the market drastically, but I would rather have that then not be able to afford anything at all. So, until 2 Moons, and Global Mu pull their heads out of their asses, I will be "that guy" who affects the market by undercutting everyone else. Seriously, 100,000 of any type of currency is too much for a crappy mace.

I don't see how the Zerg would be playable. They are a "hive mind" species (like bees).

There's a section of commands in the Global Mu website ("C" opens character screen which allows you to edit your stats, "V" opens inventory, etc). I just started too and I am having difficulty figuring out what I am supposed to be doing. I don't mind a little grinding and I like that I am getting used to the controls, but where are the quests at?

Seriously. Everyone here who has actually played Warhammer (with the actual figurines) raise their hands.

I always felt that being part of any community was helping out the young (newbies). Even in most guilds I had difficulty finding anybody to help out with some of the lvl 50+ instances and I spent a lot of my guild time doing RFC, WC, and SFK runs to help out and teach the newbies how to party.  BTW- Is there a MMORPG that is free of Chuck Norris and Leroy Jenkins?

Amen, brother. You should have seen my "ignore" list when I played WoW. It must've contained half of Malfurion!

What is the time commitment like? (I stopped playing wow because of the 6 hour instances that I had to do over and over to get all of the stuff) Is the in game advertising well done or is it annoying?

There's also the bot factor. People can charge outrageous prices in games for crap items because people who buy their gold (sorry, WOW) dont worry about what they spend as much.

What kind of time commitment can I expect in this game? Can people play it casually or do I need to do the WoW repative 6 hour instances? WIll this game allow me to have a job, RL friends, and a girlfriend?

So, I quit playing WOW  because of the enourmous time commitment. I don't mind having a never ending game or taking a year of casual play to reach a high level but without spending 6 hours going through an instance that I have gone through a million times before with people who don't know how to group so that I can not get my drop. Again. I was looking at this game and MU Online and will be checking them out tomorrow. What I want to know is what kind of time commitment is there in Ryzom?