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Originally posted by syntax42
Originally posted by Isarii

So I've been working on a series of blog posts giving basic overviews of different MMOs as I search for a new one to call home - and I think I've found a home in ArcheAge. I'll link my AA post below, because it quickly covers a whole lot of the game's features (with some opinion thrown in). If you're looking to get a lot of information really fast, this will be a good read for you. 

The post. 

Thanks.  That is what I was looking for.  It seems the game is a casual sandbox or themepark-sandbox hybrid.  The lack of strict classes is a plus for me.  

Does the game have unrestricted PvP?  I'm not a fan of being ganked.  I don't mind certain zones being designated for PvP, but I don't like being forced to subject myself to PvP just to advance in PvE.  

Does the game have player looting?  That would be a deal-breaker for me.

Only the open sea and some selected areas in the two south continents  are open PVP dont worry. It is though the fastest way to progress so do partake in it when you can.

Originally posted by wangkom
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by wangkom
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by wangkom
Originally posted by vidiotking

People see what they want to see.

Some people see this as paying $150 for alpha access. It is. However, there is more to it than that.

You get a 3 month sub and $75 worth of cash shop items. That's $120 right there..... there are other 'perks' included too.

So why would YOU, and you know who you are,  keep saying you're paying $150 for alpha access?

 

Because it is 150$ for Alpha, what if people dont want that other stuff that comes with it ? and why did Trion only add Alpha access to the most expensive package ? use your brain my friend. to get Alpha Access you need to pay 150$.

Use YOUR brain. You don't only get alpha access. It's not $150 for JUST alpha access.

Why not look at it like this. You are NOT paying for Alpha acess. You are paying for 3month sub, $75 worth of ingame cash shop items, a cloak, some armor, a kool glider, some teleport gems, and some crafting items. AND look, alpha access is included for FREE!

See what I did there?

Tell me wiseguy, why are there no Alpha on the other packages ?

Listen mate, let me educate you. We who have bought the 150$ pack are whales. Let me tell something  because ive been a whale for over a decade so im pretty sure i speak from experience. I wouldnt have given a single fuck if the alpha invite wasnt there, i would still have payed the 150$. Because i can, because i always get the best thing that is offered to me. You can try to rationalise this however you want  and it might be true that SOME people bought it only for the alpha but the reality is that people who normally buy this shit without thinking about it are normally much much more wealthier than you and wasting this kinda money(in my case too), affects me in no way what so ever. This might be harsh for you to accept but im pretty confident this is the truth.

Its simple really, 150$=aimed at 1%.

You can put it the way you want, its still not right, Trion could have made the Founder package $15000 and added a brand new Toyota in that deal (btw its a very good deal) It still doesn't change the fact that because Alpha is only on that Package you HAVE to pay $15000 to gain access to Alpha, also why did they even bother having "Signup for Beta" on their website when they clearly barely used it.

If the people in my position started to care whats good bussines practices we would be a bunch of hypocrites. I applaud you for caring about good consumer practices, but the reality is that the pack was never aimed at you it was aimed at people who dont care for that kinda thing. Its the job of a company to try to reach to every possible demographic they can reach to expand.  Theres a market for the 150$ pack and its us, the ones who dont care and got the money.

Originally posted by wangkom
Originally posted by vidiotking
Originally posted by wangkom
Originally posted by vidiotking

People see what they want to see.

Some people see this as paying $150 for alpha access. It is. However, there is more to it than that.

You get a 3 month sub and $75 worth of cash shop items. That's $120 right there..... there are other 'perks' included too.

So why would YOU, and you know who you are,  keep saying you're paying $150 for alpha access?

 

Because it is 150$ for Alpha, what if people dont want that other stuff that comes with it ? and why did Trion only add Alpha access to the most expensive package ? use your brain my friend. to get Alpha Access you need to pay 150$.

Use YOUR brain. You don't only get alpha access. It's not $150 for JUST alpha access.

Why not look at it like this. You are NOT paying for Alpha acess. You are paying for 3month sub, $75 worth of ingame cash shop items, a cloak, some armor, a kool glider, some teleport gems, and some crafting items. AND look, alpha access is included for FREE!

See what I did there?

Tell me wiseguy, why are there no Alpha on the other packages ?

Listen mate, let me educate you. We who have bought the 150$ pack are whales. Let me tell something  because ive been a whale for over a decade so im pretty sure i speak from experience. I wouldnt have given a single fuck if the alpha invite wasnt there, i would still have payed the 150$. Because i can, because i always get the best thing that is offered to me. You can try to rationalise this however you want  and it might be true that SOME people bought it only for the alpha but the reality is that people who normally buy this shit without thinking about it are normally much much more wealthier than you and wasting this kinda money(in my case too), affects me in no way what so ever. This might be harsh for you to accept but im pretty confident this is the truth. The alpha is just a bonus to me

Its simple really, 150$=aimed at 1%.

Rexxar
Originally posted by expresso
Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Originally posted by expresso
Think Blizzard might disgree.  just saying

Expansions don't count. Vanilla WoW  didn't sell 3 millions within a year..

3.5 million in the first 7-8 months of release http://www.joystiq.com/2005/07/21/world-of-warcraft-becomes-1-mmorpg-in-the-world/ now 1.5 million didin't buy a box but it's safe to assume we'll get a number close to if not over 3 million in 9 months.  After all 2 million subs today doe snot equal 2 million boxes sold total. My money is still on Blizzard selling more BOXES in 9 months than GW2.

Expresso, GW2 sold those 3 million games in 5 months. I know its hard for you to admit that something can surpass anything blizzard made. But this time you are wrong.

Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by Tygranir
Originally posted by Doogiehowser
Originally posted by InFlamestwo
Originally posted by expresso
Think Blizzard might disgree.  just saying

Expansions don't count. Vanilla WoW  didn't sell 3 millions within a year..

And why expansions don't count? or we count expansions only when it is convenient to make case in favor of GW2?

Expansions are not games. The article is about the fastest selling GAME.

Expansions are not games? i guess we learn something new everyday on these forums.

They are add-ons to an already existing game, you can not play mist of pandaria or any of the other expansions without the base game. Its more akin to a big DLC

If they were stand alones it would be a different story.

Originally posted by stevebombsquad
Originally posted by SirFubar
Originally posted by caetftl
Numbers don't lie fellas... http://www.ncsoft.net/global/ir/earnings.aspx

And what's not looking good here? The sales decreased? Ho wow big deal... I bet you can show us many MMO where the same thing didn't happen? Exactly.

Like Nadia quoted from your own source : "Revenues grew on the back of historical high L1 and stable GW2" So yeah sale decreased, but GW2 and L1 are providing the most revenues, so you don't even understand anything of what's in this earning call, you're the one who trying to spin numbers around.

So I'm not sure what you trying to accomplish here other than trying to make the game look bad and fail at it.

Nice try.

Ummm WoW for just shy of a decade.........  

WoW sales decrease after every expansion and rise again when a new one comes.

Are you saying that WoW has always rised in proftis? it peaked after a couple of years and expansions.

Maybe if they add a "sex" minigame? Otherwise how are babies gona be made?

With the stylised graphics maybe you can pull a kids story to explain how the birth actually happened.....

Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Adokaum

After so many threads I would've thought people would finally understand that talking graphics has nothing to do with style. Realism comes in many different forms not just how many sun rays are coming through the trees.  

 

I remember the art director woman talking about that their character design stemmed from the initial blocky aesthetic of the world because it was all voxel based.  I don't think the game is anywhere near release so there could be plenty of visual changes.

 

It's really irritating when people are talking about subjectivity and how this isn't gonna be for everyone. Well that's kind of a problem isn't it? Not for everyone. If they are trying to get as many people as possible to play this game then creating a style that is on the opposite end of the spectrum is going to alienate a lot of people. I am not saying people want technical realism with 3d textures and high poly models etc. to utilize their 32gb of ram and tripple sli. What I am saying though is the style should have been more neutral, that way the visuals wouldn't even be a topic for discussion.

 

Elikal brings up a good point that stylized visuals ageing better was a thing of the past. That's not to say we've reached a peak of graphical fidelity but we can create realistic enough models with smooth curves and animations that are not taxing on the system. A lot of games that came out 5 years ago will still look good in 10 years time. Comparing "realistic" to stylized from 90s and early 00's is ridiculous because everything looked like ass then, with blocky models and low res textures. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the style of this game or any stylized games. I really don't care about the aesthetic of games in the long run, I'm more concerned about how fun it will be to play. Although regardless of styles the Kerra model just looks really stupid.

 

 I have to agree with the poster above as I've experienced this from personal experience. Technical accuracy and photo realism only goes so far in art. 

It really would not be photorealism what I need in a MMO. Look at Elder Scrolls Online or GW2. They are not photorealism, but they look good. Or even LOTRO, if you look at the landscapes. That's not photorealism by far, but even after 5  or what years LOTRO still looks good. So I really would not need photorealism as in The Division. But at least for me, EQN just looks TOO cartoony. *shrug*

I dont know about ESO or LOTRO at release, but guild wars 2, even with its style tanks my computer far more than it should, and it has had almost a year for optimisation.(im running a 680 gtx btw)

Im hoping that with this heavy cartoonish style i can run loads of people with stable 60 fps.(with an upgrade to the latest generation available at the time of course)

Also, this game you champion, the division, already looks outdated compared to  metro last light cranked to the max.

Just saying.

Originally posted by Scot

Indeed, if you can take any of this as true, like all the studies we see on here.

It would seem that one in ten people in Europe play MMO's. That means there are about 1 million+ people playing MMO's in London alone.

And posters wonder why we say take these studies with a very big pinch of salt. Again without the details it is hard to be certain of the veracity of what has been claimed. Are they counting Farmville as a MMO, any MMO like mobile games being counted as well? Even so if you added all those in I am not sure that would equal one in ten.

It was funny that people in the US and Europe seem more prepared to pay than the cheapskates in the rest of the world. :) Also does anyone know what genre Realism is?

 

 

in the table it can clearly be seen that appart from russia, any country with a significant MMO population has about half the players paying, even bloody fucking brasil, so i dont know what the hell are you talking about.

Originally posted by craftseeker
Originally posted by Xthos
Had some stuff like this way back in EQ, and it doesn't bother me.  I am of neither camp, but I do not care if people want to make a guild for cat lovers....As long as they do not do something to disrupt others or spam people with their message and such...Have at it.

LGBT  fine, christian budhist hindu well OK.  But I have to draw the line at cat lovers, they really should just log off and seek treatment.

What about guilds for cat girl lovers, i hear theres gona be loads of those in FFXIV.

Originally posted by Loktofeit
Originally posted by issling
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by issling
Originally posted by immodium

What I find unusual is why someone would play a game and think "I need to get my sexual orientation/religious/political views involved somehow"

Because if we don't we end up in a guild where they just talk shit about us not even knowing where in the same guild. Have you even thought about that!

>To you and the other guy who said something similar, are you afraid of who you are? is it so hard to say "please, im (insert group) and what you are saying offends me, i would apreciate if you stop talking like that"

IF the guild responds in a bad way....well, it wasnt a good guild to begin with.

Really that's your answer? So I'm afraid of who I am and have to listen to these post once again. I have been listening to this stuff since I was in third grade and I am afraid of who I am nice way to sum us up. 

I have to agree here. Gamers don't really have a track record for tolerance of other people's views, so that approach would more than likely just make it an uncomfortable environment for more people than just the one who's views are being ridiculed or under fire.

I'm hoping the  "are you afraid of who you are" thing was simply a passive aggressive poke, and not just total cluelessness on his/her part.

 

 

English is like my 4th language so i apologise if im not clear all the time, yes you are correct, i didnt mean anything bad by it.

Originally posted by issling
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by issling
Originally posted by immodium

What I find unusual is why someone would play a game and think "I need to get my sexual orientation/religious/political views involved somehow"

Because if we don't we end up in a guild where they just talk shit about us not even knowing where in the same guild. Have you even thought about that!

>To you and the other guy who said something similar, are you afraid of who you are? is it so hard to say "please, im (insert group) and what you are saying offends me, i would apreciate if you stop talking like that"

IF the guild responds in a bad way....well, it wasnt a good guild to begin with.

Really that's your answer? So I'm afraid of who I am and have to listen to these post once again. I have been listening to this stuff since I was in third grade and I am afraid of who I am nice way to sum us up. 

Then why dont you tell people who you are and that you arent comfortable with them talking like that, its better than listening to them. Make it clear to them, stop listening in silence(thats the kind of thing your post seems to say you are doing).

Originally posted by issling
Originally posted by immodium

What I find unusual is why someone would play a game and think "I need to get my sexual orientation/religious/political views involved somehow"

Because if we don't we end up in a guild where they just talk shit about us not even knowing where in the same guild. Have you even thought about that!

>To you and the other guy who said something similar, are you afraid of who you are? is it so hard to say "please, im (insert group) and what you are saying offends me, i would apreciate if you stop talking like that"

IF the guild responds in a bad way....well, it wasnt a good guild to begin with.

Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by Eir_S
Everyone knows WoW.  EVERYONE.  Jet Li is pretty popular, but a well-made Warcraft movie could destroy box office sales.  Besides, I didn't like Crouching Tiger, I doubt I'd care about Wushu.

Outside of the gaming community, for all the wrong reasons. 

 

Are those people gonna choose the "evil," "addicting" warcraft movie or some good ol wholesome Jet Li, Wushu butt kicking?

Do you know anything about humans? Not only are they gona go in droves because of that, the movie studio is gona use it in their comercials

I can already see it

"Prepare to watch the most addicting game on the planet come to life! This summer coming to theaters!"

Originally posted by bcbully
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by bcbully

@above hope they get him too!

 

Idk guys 9 million WoW gamers ain't much compared to the Wushu Jet Li Martial Arts movie army! 

 

 

IM pretty sure WoW has more registered players than age of wushu (been out longet). And that is enough to go spend a few bucks out of curiosity to see the movie of a game you once tried.

You're pretty wrong. Age of Wushu 15-20 million players. So your gonna have to come with a better scenario that that 

 

My guildie said if WoW had Russel Crow as Arthas and James Earl Jones as the voice of his father, and some celeb lady as Janna it could be big. That's the best WoW scenario I've heard thus far  That's kinda Epic. "No MORE!!!!"

 

Can you please read what i said? I said registered players, not active.  WoW has been out longer than AoW. Easily 40m people have registered for the bloody game, both in china and the west. And just having heard and registered for g ame is enough to go see a movie of it.

Originally posted by bcbully

@above hope they get him too!

 

Idk guys 9 million WoW gamers ain't much compared to the Wushu Jet Li Martial Arts movie army! 

 

 

IM pretty sure WoW has more registered players than age of wushu (been out longet). And that is enough to go spend a few bucks out of curiosity to see the movie of a game you once tried.

Originally posted by Blazeyer
Originally posted by austriacus
Originally posted by Blazeyer
Originally posted by lizardbones

Originally posted by mcrippins


These guys: SportAccord decide who is and who is not an Olympic athlete and what is and what is not an Olympic sport. They classify billiards and chess as sports. Billiards for the dexterity and chess for the mind.

If billiards and chess can be sports, then video games can be sports too. You guys can argue about that until you're blue in the face, but the experts classify things that are like video games as sports, so they will probably include video games soon.

We aren't arguing that they're sports, but the classification of the participants as "athletes".

Someone just posted a definition that atheletes are people that play sports, therefore people playing LoL are now athletes too because LoL is now a sport.

So to argue that they arent athletes is the same as saying they arent playing sports.

I know, this discussion has gotten very confusing and a war off deinitions.

In every definition of athlete the word "physical" is present.

athlete [?æθli?t]n

1. (Individual Sports & Recreations / Athletics (Track & Field)) a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance

2. a person who has a natural aptitude for physical activities

The people who are posting the definitions of "athlete" besides myself, are omitting or ignoring the physical in all of the definitions.

Do yourself a favor and give it the eye-test. Person A is sitting in a chair 4'10 300lbs and holding a controller. Do you consider this person an athlete?

Some centuries ago being Thin was a sign of poverty amd ugliness. But the paradigm changed and so can the definiton of what constitutes an athelete.

Like i said, change is hard but you people have to come to terms with this changing world.

Originally posted by Blazeyer
Originally posted by lizardbones

Originally posted by mcrippins


These guys: SportAccord decide who is and who is not an Olympic athlete and what is and what is not an Olympic sport. They classify billiards and chess as sports. Billiards for the dexterity and chess for the mind.

If billiards and chess can be sports, then video games can be sports too. You guys can argue about that until you're blue in the face, but the experts classify things that are like video games as sports, so they will probably include video games soon.

We aren't arguing that they're sports, but the classification of the participants as "athletes".

Someone just posted a definition that atheletes are people that play sports, therefore people playing LoL are now athletes too because LoL is now a sport.

So to argue that they arent athletes is the same as saying they arent playing sports.

I know, this discussion has gotten very confusing and a war off deinitions.

Originally posted by Blazeyer
Originally posted by Dihoru
Originally posted by Blazeyer
Originally posted by Dihoru
No more silly than someone able to run around with a ball good being paid orders of magnitude better than doctors, scientists, artists, etc. It is a joke of modern society to even split things up so arbitrarily and it is mostly based on human insecurities.

No. They are athletes. They train their body.

Definition of ATHLETE

Noun A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise.

Also:

Being paid highly has nothing to do with being an athlete. I stated before that you can just be an athlete. Do you think cross country runners get paid more than doctors? C'mon.

If you want to debate salaries among professional athletes compared to average joes you're going way too far off topic.

 

 

You brought silliness (a fundamentally subjective notion) into discussion, not me.

Also:

http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/athlete

1. a person who competes in sports

League of Legends is now considered a sport ergo professional LoL players are athletes.

2 weeks ago they weren't athletes, but now they are because someone signed a piece of paper. Going by this then yes all of those 12 year old kids playing CoD right now are athletes. 30% of People in the US obese, but as long as they play CoD or LoL they are athletes. I know some guys with man boobs, does this make them girls?

I know  change is hard,  but in 10 years this will be completely mainstream. E-sports are growing very fast. You better start getting used to it, cause they are here to stay.

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